Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Warren Vail wrote: A textarea is a simple editor, I am assuming you want something better than that, or you wouldn't have looked further. I just tried Demo and got this: Sorry, you must have Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher to use the WYSIWYG editor ?!? I'm using FF. -afan Have you heard the expression (there is no free lunch), it applies here. Strictly speaking, a textarea is a wysiwyg editor, (what you see is what you get) you just don't see or get very much, one font, no formatting(other than what you can do with a carriage return, or a space bar). These editors can be very complex, but you do have some control in most of them to manage the complexity that you reveal to your users, and to do that you will have to know more about it than your users do (again, no free lunch). I like TinyMCE, it allows me to make sure that my users have a simple interface, and is real easy to setup (relative to developing the whole thing myself), but most of the ones you cite can probably fill that bill. Warren Vail -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:05 PM To: AmirBehzad Eslami Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor On 8/17/08, AmirBehzad Eslami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I'm looking for a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor to allow users to send private messages to each other in a forum application. FCKEditor is too complex and very huge for my purposes. I want a simple editor. What do you recommend? WordPress has tweaked tinymce a lot to maintain p spacing and code snippets and embedded objects. We've tried both at my job with various configurations, both have had issues - but we've had the most success and our users have been happy with WordPress's configuration (which uses a couple custom javascript things + specific tinymce configuration) I've been trying to examine the differences so I can create a reusable standalone component we can use in all our various apps... but WP has hooked in a lot of custom code and it's been a bit annoying trying to split it out into a single reusable javascript file and stuff. Almost done though. I went overboard and tried to make it more generic by renaming and cleaning up the functions to not need any WordPress callbacks and stuff and wound up messing it up, so I have to go back again and probably re-create it from scratch.. Doh :) Honestly in a forum setting you can just give them a bbcode howto/link on the side and let them put in their own bbcode (which can be a strict subset of HTML) - or even just allow HTML tags and limit what they can do. Loading up a javascript-based thing even if it's pretty lightweight is still annoying and I could see that being overkill for a forum. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
A textarea is a simple editor, I am assuming you want something better than that, or you wouldn't have looked further. I just tried Demo and got this: Sorry, you must have Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher to use the WYSIWYG editor ?!? Wow. You know people who are still using IE5.5? Seriously? Textareas do have their problems but I wouldn't consider IE5.5 one of them... :p thnx, Christoph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Dear list, I'm looking for a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor to allow users to send private messages to each other in a forum application. FCKEditor is too complex and very huge for my purposes. I want a simple editor. What do you recommend? Thanks in advance -- Kind regards, -behzad -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
I've always found FCKEditor to be pretty handy. There is an option to set it to a simple mode, giving only the bold, italic, underlined and link buttons, and this is extendable to include only the buttons you need. It's an absolute doddle to implement in a web app as well; I've used it for several projects at work. What sort of functionality were you looking for? Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- Dear list, I'm looking for a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor to allow users to send private messages to each other in a forum application. FCKEditor is too complex and very huge for my purposes. I want a simple editor. What do you recommend? Thanks in advance -- Kind regards, -behzad -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:33 AM, AmirBehzad Eslami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I'm looking for a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor to allow users to send private messages to each other in a forum application. FCKEditor is too complex and very huge for my purposes. I want a simple editor. What do you recommend? Thanks in advance -- Kind regards, -behzad -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Look into the YUI editor for something light weight. You can serve up all the JS straight from their cdn. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/editor/ In all of my projects I always use FCKEditor. It is easy to have it in one spot and symlink that to each individual project. But that is very specific to the way I deploy my apps. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
On 8/17/08, AmirBehzad Eslami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I'm looking for a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor to allow users to send private messages to each other in a forum application. FCKEditor is too complex and very huge for my purposes. I want a simple editor. What do you recommend? WordPress has tweaked tinymce a lot to maintain p spacing and code snippets and embedded objects. We've tried both at my job with various configurations, both have had issues - but we've had the most success and our users have been happy with WordPress's configuration (which uses a couple custom javascript things + specific tinymce configuration) I've been trying to examine the differences so I can create a reusable standalone component we can use in all our various apps... but WP has hooked in a lot of custom code and it's been a bit annoying trying to split it out into a single reusable javascript file and stuff. Almost done though. I went overboard and tried to make it more generic by renaming and cleaning up the functions to not need any WordPress callbacks and stuff and wound up messing it up, so I have to go back again and probably re-create it from scratch.. Doh :) Honestly in a forum setting you can just give them a bbcode howto/link on the side and let them put in their own bbcode (which can be a strict subset of HTML) - or even just allow HTML tags and limit what they can do. Loading up a javascript-based thing even if it's pretty lightweight is still annoying and I could see that being overkill for a forum. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor
A textarea is a simple editor, I am assuming you want something better than that, or you wouldn't have looked further. Have you heard the expression (there is no free lunch), it applies here. Strictly speaking, a textarea is a wysiwyg editor, (what you see is what you get) you just don't see or get very much, one font, no formatting(other than what you can do with a carriage return, or a space bar). These editors can be very complex, but you do have some control in most of them to manage the complexity that you reveal to your users, and to do that you will have to know more about it than your users do (again, no free lunch). I like TinyMCE, it allows me to make sure that my users have a simple interface, and is real easy to setup (relative to developing the whole thing myself), but most of the ones you cite can probably fill that bill. Warren Vail -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:05 PM To: AmirBehzad Eslami Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] FCKEditor, TinyMCE, ... I need a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor On 8/17/08, AmirBehzad Eslami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I'm looking for a light weight WYSIWYG HTML Editor to allow users to send private messages to each other in a forum application. FCKEditor is too complex and very huge for my purposes. I want a simple editor. What do you recommend? WordPress has tweaked tinymce a lot to maintain p spacing and code snippets and embedded objects. We've tried both at my job with various configurations, both have had issues - but we've had the most success and our users have been happy with WordPress's configuration (which uses a couple custom javascript things + specific tinymce configuration) I've been trying to examine the differences so I can create a reusable standalone component we can use in all our various apps... but WP has hooked in a lot of custom code and it's been a bit annoying trying to split it out into a single reusable javascript file and stuff. Almost done though. I went overboard and tried to make it more generic by renaming and cleaning up the functions to not need any WordPress callbacks and stuff and wound up messing it up, so I have to go back again and probably re-create it from scratch.. Doh :) Honestly in a forum setting you can just give them a bbcode howto/link on the side and let them put in their own bbcode (which can be a strict subset of HTML) - or even just allow HTML tags and limit what they can do. Loading up a javascript-based thing even if it's pretty lightweight is still annoying and I could see that being overkill for a forum. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
