[PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread [ rswfire ]

This is a little off topic, so I apologize, but I was hoping one of the 
computer gurus here could help me.

When I go live with my network, I will be using sub-domains.  Such as:  
http://subdomain.domain.com/

In order to test this on my NT5/IIS5 system, I need to be able to use these 
subdomains.  I am programming locally, so there is no .com after my name.  
It is my computer name:  http://si-exec-cio/

Does anyone know how I can configure IIS5 to include 
http://subdomain.si-exec-cio/ ?

I am using Win 2000 Professional.

Again, I apologize for sending an off-topic message.  My network is 
primarily controlled by PHP so I hope you can understand.  =)
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Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

Why don't you just install the Windows version of Apache?  That way your
development environment will be much closer to your production
environment.

-Rasmus

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, [ rswfire ] wrote:

 This is a little off topic, so I apologize, but I was hoping one of the
 computer gurus here could help me.

 When I go live with my network, I will be using sub-domains.  Such as:
 http://subdomain.domain.com/

 In order to test this on my NT5/IIS5 system, I need to be able to use these
 subdomains.  I am programming locally, so there is no .com after my name.
 It is my computer name:  http://si-exec-cio/

 Does anyone know how I can configure IIS5 to include
 http://subdomain.si-exec-cio/ ?

 I am using Win 2000 Professional.

 Again, I apologize for sending an off-topic message.  My network is
 primarily controlled by PHP so I hope you can understand.  =)
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Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread [ rswfire ]

I've never tried that before.  I'd be scared of doing something wrong.  Can 
I use Apache locally as an Intranet?  Can I run both IIS and Apache?  I 
wouldn't know where to begin...  =)

I can hear the answer already...  apache.com



From: Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[ rswfire ]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:31:34 -0800 (PST)

Why don't you just install the Windows version of Apache?  That way your
development environment will be much closer to your production
environment.

-Rasmus

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, [ rswfire ] wrote:

  This is a little off topic, so I apologize, but I was hoping one of the
  computer gurus here could help me.
 
  When I go live with my network, I will be using sub-domains.  Such as:
  http://subdomain.domain.com/
 
  In order to test this on my NT5/IIS5 system, I need to be able to use 
these
  subdomains.  I am programming locally, so there is no .com after my 
name.
  It is my computer name:  http://si-exec-cio/
 
  Does anyone know how I can configure IIS5 to include
  http://subdomain.si-exec-cio/ ?
 
  I am using Win 2000 Professional.
 
  Again, I apologize for sending an off-topic message.  My network is
  primarily controlled by PHP so I hope you can understand.  =)
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RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread Jonathan Sharp

Ah...yes you can. You're probably scared of apache because it doesn't have a
GUI! But don't fret I was in the same boat not too long ago!

1) Download the lastest version of apache (www.apache.org you were close...)
2) Install apache (it does have an installation program)
3) Configuring apache
To configure apache you need to edit the httpd.conf file (I suggest you
create a backfirst!) it's pretty self explanatory, there's lots of
documentation for it. You can run both IIS and Apache as long as they're not
running on the same ports (eg :80, so either disable the web server for IIS
on port 80 (or change it to something like 64892) or make apache run on some
other port (you set this in httpd.conf under the Port option)) So after
you've setup your httpd.conf file, you'll start apache from the command line
(you may scream now if you'd like...this is where MS is...MS...) you run the
apache deamon with a command like C:\path\to\apache.exe start
C:\path\to\httpd.conf It's something similar to that, the command prompt
window will stay open and you won't be able to do anything in that window,
so to shut down apache, open a new window and do the C:\path\to\apache.exe
stop (I haven't done this on NT in a while so those commands are probably
wrong but it should be the right direction)
4) To setup subdomains (this is the good part)
If you want to actually setup domain.com to develop on locally and the site
isn't "online" you can add an entry to your hosts file (somewhere in
C:\WINNT\) and entry like "127.0.0.1 domain.com" (or you could create a
bogus TLD like domain.dev) and that will redirect all requests for
domain.xxx to your local apache server (assuming you've set Bind to * in the
httpd.conf file to listen to all IPs) For the actual subdomains you'd set
these in the httpd.conf file under VirtualDirectories (you can either do
Name based subdomains (one IP bound to NIC  multiple domains) or IP based
subdomains (multiple IPs bound to NIC  multiple domain names) Check the
apache.org documentation on how to set them up. It's not too terribly
complex...

NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1
VirtualHost 127.0.0.1
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ServerName subdomain.domain.com
DocumentRoot C:\path\to\your\website
/VirtualHost

Just be careful though...once you start using apache and such you'll be on
linux in no time...I have three dev servers now  two live servers...NT is
my desktop only because I use homesite to dev with and a few other winx
progs. Also if anyof you out there know a good colorcoding *nix developer
app (for PHP of couse) please let me know!

If you get stuck on anything, just holler... (i'm usually on EFNet in PHP as
codeboy)

-Jonathan Sharp

Director of Technology - Imprev Inc.
Renwick Development Group - Flyerware
http://www.flyerware.com/
Phone: (425)688-9200
Cell: (425)766-1398
EPage: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains


I've never tried that before.  I'd be scared of doing something wrong.  Can
I use Apache locally as an Intranet?  Can I run both IIS and Apache?  I
wouldn't know where to begin...  =)

I can hear the answer already...  apache.com



From: Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[ rswfire ]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:31:34 -0800 (PST)

Why don't you just install the Windows version of Apache?  That way your
development environment will be much closer to your production
environment.

-Rasmus

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, [ rswfire ] wrote:

  This is a little off topic, so I apologize, but I was hoping one of the
  computer gurus here could help me.
 
  When I go live with my network, I will be using sub-domains.  Such as:
  http://subdomain.domain.com/
 
  In order to test this on my NT5/IIS5 system, I need to be able to use
these
  subdomains.  I am programming locally, so there is no .com after my
name.
  It is my computer name:  http://si-exec-cio/
 
  Does anyone know how I can configure IIS5 to include
  http://subdomain.si-exec-cio/ ?
 
  I am using Win 2000 Professional.
 
  Again, I apologize for sending an off-topic message.  My network is
  primarily controlled by PHP so I hope you can understand.  =)
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Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread jeremy brand

apache.org.  :)

 I can hear the answer already...  apache.com
 
 
 
 From: Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "[ rswfire ]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains
 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:31:34 -0800 (PST)
 
 Why don't you just install the Windows version of Apache?  That way your
 development environment will be much closer to your production
 environment.
 
 -Rasmus
 
 On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, [ rswfire ] wrote:
 
   This is a little off topic, so I apologize, but I was hoping one of the
   computer gurus here could help me.
  
   When I go live with my network, I will be using sub-domains.  Such as:
   http://subdomain.domain.com/
  
   In order to test this on my NT5/IIS5 system, I need to be able to use 
 these
   subdomains.  I am programming locally, so there is no .com after my 
 name.
   It is my computer name:  http://si-exec-cio/
  
   Does anyone know how I can configure IIS5 to include
   http://subdomain.si-exec-cio/ ?
  
   I am using Win 2000 Professional.
  
   Again, I apologize for sending an off-topic message.  My network is
   primarily controlled by PHP so I hope you can understand.  =)
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RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread [ rswfire ]


Jonathon,

Thanks so much for your help!!  Okay, I have downloaded and installed 
Apache.  And to my utter surprise...it's working!!  You're right, the fact 
that it does not have a GUI is the reason I was scared of it.  =)

I set the Apache Port option to 8080.  Is that good?  I stopped the IIS 
service.  And now I can't get it to restart, not sure why...

I set Bind to *

Should I set the ServerName directive to domain.dev?  Or does this have to 
be done in the HOSTS file you mentioned?


This is really sweet.  =)




From: "Jonathan Sharp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[ rswfire ]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:14:59 -0800

Ah...yes you can. You're probably scared of apache because it doesn't have 
a
GUI! But don't fret I was in the same boat not too long ago!

1) Download the lastest version of apache (www.apache.org you were 
close...)
2) Install apache (it does have an installation program)
3) Configuring apache
To configure apache you need to edit the httpd.conf file (I suggest you
create a backfirst!) it's pretty self explanatory, there's lots of
documentation for it. You can run both IIS and Apache as long as they're 
not
running on the same ports (eg :80, so either disable the web server for IIS
on port 80 (or change it to something like 64892) or make apache run on 
some
other port (you set this in httpd.conf under the Port option)) So after
you've setup your httpd.conf file, you'll start apache from the command 
line
(you may scream now if you'd like...this is where MS is...MS...) you run 
the
apache deamon with a command like C:\path\to\apache.exe start
C:\path\to\httpd.conf It's something similar to that, the command prompt
window will stay open and you won't be able to do anything in that window,
so to shut down apache, open a new window and do the C:\path\to\apache.exe
stop (I haven't done this on NT in a while so those commands are probably
wrong but it should be the right direction)

4) To setup subdomains (this is the good part)
If you want to actually setup domain.com to develop on locally and the site
isn't "online" you can add an entry to your hosts file (somewhere in
C:\WINNT\) and entry like "127.0.0.1 domain.com" (or you could create a
bogus TLD like domain.dev) and that will redirect all requests for
domain.xxx to your local apache server (assuming you've set Bind to * in 
the
httpd.conf file to listen to all IPs) For the actual subdomains you'd set
these in the httpd.conf file under VirtualDirectories (you can either do
Name based subdomains (one IP bound to NIC  multiple domains) or IP based
subdomains (multiple IPs bound to NIC  multiple domain names) Check the
apache.org documentation on how to set them up. It's not too terribly
complex...

NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1
VirtualHost 127.0.0.1
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ServerName subdomain.domain.com
 DocumentRoot C:\path\to\your\website
/VirtualHost

Just be careful though...once you start using apache and such you'll be on
linux in no time...I have three dev servers now  two live servers...NT is
my desktop only because I use homesite to dev with and a few other winx
progs. Also if anyof you out there know a good colorcoding *nix developer
app (for PHP of couse) please let me know!

If you get stuck on anything, just holler... (i'm usually on EFNet in PHP 
as
codeboy)

-Jonathan Sharp

Director of Technology - Imprev Inc.
Renwick Development Group - Flyerware
http://www.flyerware.com/
Phone: (425)688-9200
Cell: (425)766-1398
EPage: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [ rswfire ] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains


I've never tried that before.  I'd be scared of doing something wrong.  Can
I use Apache locally as an Intranet?  Can I run both IIS and Apache?  I
wouldn't know where to begin...  =)

I can hear the answer already...  apache.com



 From: Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "[ rswfire ]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains
 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:31:34 -0800 (PST)
 
 Why don't you just install the Windows version of Apache?  That way your
 development environment will be much closer to your production
 environment.
 
 -Rasmus
 
 On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, [ rswfire ] wrote:
 
   This is a little off topic, so I apologize, but I was hoping one of 
the
   computer gurus here could help me.
  
   When I go live with my network, I will be using sub-domains.  Such as:
   http://subdomain.domain.com/
  
   In order to test this on my NT5/IIS5 system, I need to be able to use
 these
   subdomains.  I am programming locally, so there is no .com after my
 name.
   It is my computer name:  http://si-exec-cio/
  
   Does anyone know how I can configure IIS5 to include
   http://subdomain.si-exec-cio/ ?
  
 

RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread Jonathan Sharp

 I set the Apache Port option to 8080.  Is that good?  I stopped the IIS
 service.  And now I can't get it to restart, not sure why...
Hm, well 8080 is fine, I'm not sure why IIS won't start...but MS probably is
freaking out that opensource is actually taking over it's domain (no pun
intended) =)

 I set Bind to *
That's good, whatever IPs that are config'd on your box apache will bind to
on 8080

 Should I set the ServerName directive to domain.dev?  Or does this have to
 be done in the HOSTS file you mentioned?
Yes you can set ServerName to domain.dev or whatever.foo the reason that
you'll add the entry to your HOSTS file is because most likely you're not
running a DNS server to authentically map that domain to your IP. Windows
looks at HOSTS before it goes to a DNS so that way you can map that domain
to your local host without having to mess with dns or anything and simulate
a production environment (that HOSTS file is quite intersting, try the entry
"216.136.171.205 microsoft.com" and then visit microsoft.com, you'll be
surprised... =) (NOTE TO VIRUS CREATORS: That would be an interesting
hack...to add an entry to the hosts file that does that mapping...oh...that
would get the big BG mad...)

After you've been doing this for a little while, you'll have to get an old
box (like P200 or something) to stick linux on and have that be your dev
server...your EYES will be opened...trust me, the MS empire won't always be
as vast as it is, TUX is alive and moving!)

Cheers,
-Jonathan Sharp

Director of Technology - Imprev Inc.
Renwick Development Group - Flyerware
http://www.flyerware.com/
Phone: (425)688-9200
Cell: (425)766-1398
EPage: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [ rswfire ] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains



Jonathon,

Thanks so much for your help!!  Okay, I have downloaded and installed
Apache.  And to my utter surprise...it's working!!  You're right, the fact
that it does not have a GUI is the reason I was scared of it.  =)

I set the Apache Port option to 8080.  Is that good?  I stopped the IIS
service.  And now I can't get it to restart, not sure why...

I set Bind to *

Should I set the ServerName directive to domain.dev?  Or does this have to
be done in the HOSTS file you mentioned?


This is really sweet.  =)




From: "Jonathan Sharp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[ rswfire ]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:14:59 -0800

Ah...yes you can. You're probably scared of apache because it doesn't have
a
GUI! But don't fret I was in the same boat not too long ago!

1) Download the lastest version of apache (www.apache.org you were
close...)
2) Install apache (it does have an installation program)
3) Configuring apache
To configure apache you need to edit the httpd.conf file (I suggest you
create a backfirst!) it's pretty self explanatory, there's lots of
documentation for it. You can run both IIS and Apache as long as they're
not
running on the same ports (eg :80, so either disable the web server for IIS
on port 80 (or change it to something like 64892) or make apache run on
some
other port (you set this in httpd.conf under the Port option)) So after
you've setup your httpd.conf file, you'll start apache from the command
line
(you may scream now if you'd like...this is where MS is...MS...) you run
the
apache deamon with a command like C:\path\to\apache.exe start
C:\path\to\httpd.conf It's something similar to that, the command prompt
window will stay open and you won't be able to do anything in that window,
so to shut down apache, open a new window and do the C:\path\to\apache.exe
stop (I haven't done this on NT in a while so those commands are probably
wrong but it should be the right direction)

4) To setup subdomains (this is the good part)
If you want to actually setup domain.com to develop on locally and the site
isn't "online" you can add an entry to your hosts file (somewhere in
C:\WINNT\) and entry like "127.0.0.1 domain.com" (or you could create a
bogus TLD like domain.dev) and that will redirect all requests for
domain.xxx to your local apache server (assuming you've set Bind to * in
the
httpd.conf file to listen to all IPs) For the actual subdomains you'd set
these in the httpd.conf file under VirtualDirectories (you can either do
Name based subdomains (one IP bound to NIC  multiple domains) or IP based
subdomains (multiple IPs bound to NIC  multiple domain names) Check the
apache.org documentation on how to set them up. It's not too terribly
complex...

NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1
VirtualHost 127.0.0.1
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ServerName subdomain.domain.com
 DocumentRoot C:\path\to\your\website
/VirtualHost

Just be careful though...once you start using apache and such you'll be on
linux in no time...I have 

RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread Jonathan Sharp

Brian! You're not helping here, i'm in the middle of a conversion! I'm
trying to help this guy find his destiny! Com'on!

rswfire: You want to get used to the command line, trust me!

-Jonathan Sharp

Director of Technology - Imprev Inc.
Renwick Development Group - Flyerware
http://www.flyerware.com/
Phone: (425)688-9200
Cell: (425)766-1398
EPage: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Brian Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:52 PM
To: PHP is not a drug .
Subject: Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains



Hello rswfire,

(r == "[ rswfire ]") [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:

r You're right, the fact that it does not have a GUI is the reason I
r was scared of it. =)

snip

(you may scream now if you'd like...this is where MS is...MS...) you
run the apache deamon with a command like C:\path\to\apache.exe
start

Good lord! That was a lot of trimming for quoted material. :)

Anyway, you can also use Apache Manager from the Windows Tray to stop
and start Apache (without any annoying MS-DOS windows).

http://brian.threadnet.com

It's written by Brian Moon. The same guy who authored Phorum.

-Brian



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Re: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread Brian Clark


Hello Jonathan, 

(JS == "Jonathan Sharp") [EMAIL PROTECTED] canalized:

JS Brian! You're not helping here, i'm in the middle of a conversion!
JS I'm trying to help this guy find his destiny! Com'on!

:)

JS rswfire: You want to get used to the command line, trust me!

I use it every day. BSDi, RedHat, Debian, OpenBSD, and sometimes from
the Run box in Windows when I actually *need* to use command.com.

But I got tired, lng ago, of fo0king around in clumsy MS-DOS.

Unless we're talking about a *real* command line here, my suggestion
still stands.. ;)

-Brian



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RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread [ rswfire ]

Thank you Brian and Jonathon.  You are both very helpful!!  I think I like 
the idea of a tray icon -- rather than an annoying DOS window I cannot get 
rid of from my task bar!  =)

No offense, Jonathon...  I agree, I need to work on my command line 
skills...

Should I install Apache as a service on NT??  Then it starts automatically, 
right?
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RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains

2001-01-27 Thread Jonathan Sharp

Yeah, well all have our preferences...and the NT command line is NOTHING
like a good *nix one, so I guess I'll agree that the GUI is approvable by
me. =)

I would install it, I think that would take one less step out of getting to
developing when you boot your box!

-Jonathan

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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 3:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] NT5 Sub Domains


Thank you Brian and Jonathon.  You are both very helpful!!  I think I like
the idea of a tray icon -- rather than an annoying DOS window I cannot get
rid of from my task bar!  =)

No offense, Jonathon...  I agree, I need to work on my command line
skills...

Should I install Apache as a service on NT??  Then it starts automatically,
right?
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