Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
At 2:50 AM +0100 5/31/10, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 02:46 +0100, Mark Kelly wrote: Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, Dreamweaver is known for having issues with include files, can be slow when working on large projects with lots of files, and is only available for Mac and Windows, which limits it somewhat. Thanks, Ash I won't address anything Brandon has to say, but as far a DW, it's just another bloatware WYSIWYG web-development application. While it has a decent editor and file management system, the bloatware baggage as well as the price tag is more than I have keep up with. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
Hi, I've been using NetBeans for some time and I found that there are some issues like for Web applications if you write html tag incorrectlly, you wont be informed about that, for stand alone applications in Java there were also some stupid errors, etc. So, I strongly suggest to check out Eclipse(http://www.eclipse.org/)! You can easily download Eclipse for PHP on Windows, Linux and MAC, and the best part is that you can also easily find and add different plugins like SVN, JS, etc. Just check it out... ;-) Regards, Dusan On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Mark Kelly p...@wastedtimes.net wrote: Hi. On Monday 31 May 2010 at 02:50 Ashley Sheridan wrote: Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, Dreamweaver is known for having issues with include files, can be slow when working on large projects with lots of files, and is only available for Mac and Windows, which limits it somewhat. Indeed. I can't stand the thing myself - I was just being polite :) I use netbeans on Linux and Windows, so its cross-platform nature is quite important to me. I also appreciate the Subversion integration, which is very nicely done. Tedd: I'm no expert, but I'll chime in if I have any answers for you. Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- made by ndusan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
Hello, what about the Netbeans ram eating? Mario On 31/05/10 02:03, Dušan Novaković wrote: Hi, I've been using NetBeans for some time and I found that there are some issues like for Web applications if you write html tag incorrectlly, you wont be informed about that, for stand alone applications in Java there were also some stupid errors, etc. So, I strongly suggest to check out Eclipse(http://www.eclipse.org/)! You can easily download Eclipse for PHP on Windows, Linux and MAC, and the best part is that you can also easily find and add different plugins like SVN, JS, etc. Just check it out... ;-) Regards, Dusan On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Mark Kellyp...@wastedtimes.net wrote: Hi. On Monday 31 May 2010 at 02:50 Ashley Sheridan wrote: Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, Dreamweaver is known for having issues with include files, can be slow when working on large projects with lots of files, and is only available for Mac and Windows, which limits it somewhat. Indeed. I can't stand the thing myself - I was just being polite :) I use netbeans on Linux and Windows, so its cross-platform nature is quite important to me. I also appreciate the Subversion integration, which is very nicely done. Tedd: I'm no expert, but I'll chime in if I have any answers for you. Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Saludos / Best regards Mario Lacunza Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com Personal Website:: http://lacunza.biz/ Hosting:: http://mlv-host.com/ Google Talk: mlacunzav Skype: mlacunzav MSN: mlacun...@hotmail.com Y! messenger: mlacunzav -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
Hi there. I'm also a User of the Netbeans IDE and I can tell you the following: - Netbeans is the only IDE who can load very large PHP scripts (f.e. 1mb PHP Script with a multiple of 10thousands of lines) with syntax highlighting and SUPERB code completion. It works with include files, you can adjust RAM settings, you can work with files opened via ssh, Subersion integration is absolutley loveley, you can connect to a DB-Server with it to have the Schema and so on in your IDE, the Debugging feature works like a charm and it's simply much better than the following IDEs: - Zend Framework - Komodo Edit/ Komodo IDE - Eclipse - Kdevelop (heh - just kidding, mentioning this one) I Use it on Linux 64 bit and it simply rocks. @tedd: I'd just do what's obvious: Use a versioning system like Subversion. It can work via ssh, so there's no need to open a port for an extra daemon on any server. Further questions may be addresses to this list, I'd say. You'll have a more chances for an answer. ;) Regards 2010/5/31 Mario Lacunza mlacu...@gmail.com: Hello, what about the Netbeans ram eating? Mario On 31/05/10 02:03, Dušan Novaković wrote: Hi, I've been using NetBeans for some time and I found that there are some issues like for Web applications if you write html tag incorrectlly, you wont be informed about that, for stand alone applications in Java there were also some stupid errors, etc. So, I strongly suggest to check out Eclipse(http://www.eclipse.org/)! You can easily download Eclipse for PHP on Windows, Linux and MAC, and the best part is that you can also easily find and add different plugins like SVN, JS, etc. Just check it out... ;-) Regards, Dusan On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Mark Kellyp...@wastedtimes.net wrote: Hi. On Monday 31 May 2010 at 02:50 Ashley Sheridan wrote: Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, Dreamweaver is known for having issues with include files, can be slow when working on large projects with lots of files, and is only available for Mac and Windows, which limits it somewhat. Indeed. I can't stand the thing myself - I was just being polite :) I use netbeans on Linux and Windows, so its cross-platform nature is quite important to me. I also appreciate the Subversion integration, which is very nicely done. Tedd: I'm no expert, but I'll chime in if I have any answers for you. Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Saludos / Best regards Mario Lacunza Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com Personal Website:: http://lacunza.biz/ Hosting:: http://mlv-host.com/ Google Talk: mlacunzav Skype: mlacunzav MSN: mlacun...@hotmail.com Y! messenger: mlacunzav -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] NetBeans Question
Hi gang: Do any of you use NetBeans for your IDE? It looks like a great IDE, but I have some questions. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
On 05/30/2010 05:57 PM, tedd wrote: Hi gang: Do any of you use NetBeans for your IDE? Yes, i do. Since 2 Years (Netbeans 6.5 then), now with 6.8 I work very well with netbeans on Mac OS-X and Ubuntu, using SVN as version-backend, XDEBUG for debugging, Code-Coverage etc... It looks like a great IDE, but I have some questions. Tell me, maybe i can answer Paul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
On May 30, 2010, at 12:32 PM, php wrote: On 05/30/2010 05:57 PM, tedd wrote: Hi gang: Do any of you use NetBeans for your IDE? Yes, i do. Since 2 Years (Netbeans 6.5 then), now with 6.8 I work very well with netbeans on Mac OS-X and Ubuntu, using SVN as version-backend, XDEBUG for debugging, Code-Coverage etc... It looks like a great IDE, but I have some questions. Tell me, maybe i can answer Hey tedd, I actually just started using it a little bit ago as I wanted something more robust then just a text editor with some syntax highlighting :) So feel free to ask away and I'll see what I can answer :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 12:58 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 12:32 PM, php wrote: On 05/30/2010 05:57 PM, tedd wrote: Hi gang: Do any of you use NetBeans for your IDE? Yes, i do. Since 2 Years (Netbeans 6.5 then), now with 6.8 I work very well with netbeans on Mac OS-X and Ubuntu, using SVN as version-backend, XDEBUG for debugging, Code-Coverage etc... It looks like a great IDE, but I have some questions. Tell me, maybe i can answer Hey tedd, I actually just started using it a little bit ago as I wanted something more robust then just a text editor with some syntax highlighting :) So feel free to ask away and I'll see what I can answer :) This thread has made me want to have a look at the IDE. Will the base IDE package be enough, or is there something specific it needs for PHP development, like a netbeans-php package? I'm using Linux (Fedora 11) btw ;) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 13:48 -0400, Brandon Rampersad wrote: i use dreamweaver and it's better On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 12:58 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 12:32 PM, php wrote: On 05/30/2010 05:57 PM, tedd wrote: Hi gang: Do any of you use NetBeans for your IDE? Yes, i do. Since 2 Years (Netbeans 6.5 then), now with 6.8 I work very well with netbeans on Mac OS-X and Ubuntu, using SVN as version-backend, XDEBUG for debugging, Code-Coverage etc... It looks like a great IDE, but I have some questions. Tell me, maybe i can answer Hey tedd, I actually just started using it a little bit ago as I wanted something more robust then just a text editor with some syntax highlighting :) So feel free to ask away and I'll see what I can answer :) This thread has made me want to have a look at the IDE. Will the base IDE package be enough, or is there something specific it needs for PHP development, like a netbeans-php package? I'm using Linux (Fedora 11) btw ;) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- A Brandon_R Production I don't know about that. I prefer a standard text editor to Dreamweaver. Dw is full of bloat, really screws up include files and isn't available on Linux anyway. As an editor for people more visually orientated it's not bad, but for someone coming from a programming background, it hinders in many places. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
At 6:01 PM +0100 5/30/10, Ashley Sheridan wrote: This thread has made me want to have a look at the IDE. Will the base IDE package be enough, or is there something specific it needs for PHP development, like a netbeans-php package? I'm using Linux (Fedora 11) btw ;) Thanks, Ash Ash: I'm really new at NetBeans and am having some minor questions I was keeping off-list -- however -- can go on list if there is interest. As for specific needs that NetBeans requires being an IDE for php, they make a special one just for php, see here: http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html Find the one that fits your needs, like the one that covers only php and download it -- that's what I did. It's very easy to install and its learning curve is pretty easy. There are just some minor things that are not obvious, such as downloading a remote file to your local directory. You see, I use two different computers and have two accesses to the same server. Occasionally, I may change a file remotely and my second computer needs to be updated. I know this could be solved via some version scheme, but I don't want to make a big production out of it -- all I need to do is download a remote file, but I didn't see an easy way to do that. So, I searched for a couple of hours until I found someone said Simply, right-click on the file locally and choose 'download' and you'll overwrite the file -- that was simple enough. But I had to find out how to do it. These are the types of questions I have. I wanted to ask my questions on the NetBeans forums, but I am having trouble logging in. They seem to have a problem with my given ID, password, and email address and I haven't the time to straighten it all out -- I just want answers -- so I turned to this list. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
Hi Tedd. On Sunday 30 May 2010 at 19:01 tedd wrote: I wanted to ask my questions on the NetBeans forums, but I am having trouble logging in. They seem to have a problem with my given ID, password, and email address and I haven't the time to straighten it all out -- I just want answers -- so I turned to this list. Just in case you didn't spot it, there is a mailing list specifically for PHP development using netbeans that I have found very useful. You can sign up here: http://netbeans.org/community/lists/top.html#technologies Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
Hi Brandon. You sent your reply directly to me, instead of to the mailing list. Also I don't agree - netbeans is an excellent IDE and to call it a text editor is not doing it justice at all. Cheers, Mark On Monday 31 May 2010 at 02:03 you wrote: Dreamweaver is better if you want a real IDE. If you want a regular text editor netbeans is the way to go. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mark Kelly p...@wastedtimes.net wrote: Hi Tedd. On Sunday 30 May 2010 at 19:01 tedd wrote: I wanted to ask my questions on the NetBeans forums, but I am having trouble logging in. They seem to have a problem with my given ID, password, and email address and I haven't the time to straighten it all out -- I just want answers -- so I turned to this list. Just in case you didn't spot it, there is a mailing list specifically for PHP development using netbeans that I have found very useful. You can sign up here: http://netbeans.org/community/lists/top.html#technologies Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 02:46 +0100, Mark Kelly wrote: Hi Brandon. You sent your reply directly to me, instead of to the mailing list. Also I don't agree - netbeans is an excellent IDE and to call it a text editor is not doing it justice at all. Cheers, Mark On Monday 31 May 2010 at 02:03 you wrote: Dreamweaver is better if you want a real IDE. If you want a regular text editor netbeans is the way to go. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mark Kelly p...@wastedtimes.net wrote: Hi Tedd. On Sunday 30 May 2010 at 19:01 tedd wrote: I wanted to ask my questions on the NetBeans forums, but I am having trouble logging in. They seem to have a problem with my given ID, password, and email address and I haven't the time to straighten it all out -- I just want answers -- so I turned to this list. Just in case you didn't spot it, there is a mailing list specifically for PHP development using netbeans that I have found very useful. You can sign up here: http://netbeans.org/community/lists/top.html#technologies Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, Dreamweaver is known for having issues with include files, can be slow when working on large projects with lots of files, and is only available for Mac and Windows, which limits it somewhat. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] NetBeans Question
Hi. On Monday 31 May 2010 at 02:50 Ashley Sheridan wrote: Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, Dreamweaver is known for having issues with include files, can be slow when working on large projects with lots of files, and is only available for Mac and Windows, which limits it somewhat. Indeed. I can't stand the thing myself - I was just being polite :) I use netbeans on Linux and Windows, so its cross-platform nature is quite important to me. I also appreciate the Subversion integration, which is very nicely done. Tedd: I'm no expert, but I'll chime in if I have any answers for you. Cheers, Mark -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
