RE: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Good call, Lucas! Netscape has bitten me before on this one, and I had forgotten about it- sorry. I was doing a View Source, but all the dynamic elements that got updated on each request were changing, because Netscape does another request for the View Source. So, the View Source code is not the code that produced the page I was looking at. Drove me nuts until I figured it out. Thanks for the reminder. Kirk > -Original Message- > From: Lucas Persona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else > hadproblems with php and Netscape 6? > The reason that Netscape doesn't show a correct Source is because > Netscape don't use the currently showed page to get the > source. It does > another GET to get (get-get oops :)) the source. > This way the 'View Source' option do another server access and this > time > don't send the POST variables needed. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Hy there! DAve Goodrich wrote: > Have you tried this test with your code? > http://www.php.net/FAQ.php#7.8 > The FAQ does not give a solution, but the problem is known to have affected > only select users. The problem is no-one seems to know what the selection > criteria is! Some people have the problem, some do not. Yeah..I did it and no '\0' was returned. Then I traced everything to find out what was happening. The final briefing: :) Netscape 6.x handles in a different way some actions. The reason that Netscape doesn't show a correct Source is because Netscape don't use the currently showed page to get the source. It does another GET to get (get-get oops :)) the source. This way the 'View Source' option do another server access and this time don't send the POST variables needed. The browser request: X.X.X.X - - [18/May/2001:13:58:44 -0300] "POST /netscape6.1.php HTTP/1.1" 200 208 "http: //server.com/netscape6.php" "Mozilla/5.0 Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01" The 'View Source' request: X.X.X.X - - [18/May/2001:13:59:17 -0300] "GET /netscape6.1.php HTTP/1.1" 200 173 "-" "Mo zilla/5.0 Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01" Another problem on this subject is when creating a FORM that, via a POST method will define a download. Netscape 6.x do the POST and ALSO DO A GET, so the result for the download is wrong. Netscape X.xx or IE X.xx do just one POST and then download the file. I don't know if there is a way to change this Netscape behaviour... or change everything to GET style ;) Well..I think this is the answer for that 'strange behaviou'... Thanks for everyone that helped on that... See you, -- Lucas PersonaICQ #17635618 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +55 19 451 6300 --- Widesoft Sistemas Ltda http://www.widesoft.com.br -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Have you tried this test with your code?
http://www.php.net/FAQ.php#7.8
The FAQ does not give a solution, but the problem is known to have affected
only select users. The problem is no-one seems to know what the selection
criteria is! Some people have the problem, some do not.
DAve
on 5/18/01 7:49 AM, Lucas Persona at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I've Replyed also to the lsit, because someone could help us on this...
>
> Jason Lotito wrote:
>> Lucas Persona wrote:
>>> I was used to think on that way...
>>> Some time ago I have problems with Netscape 6 and PHP. It
>>> was not a HTML error
>>> but something related to PHP/Netscape 6.
>>> The problem was in showing correctly the source code.
>>> I had a page that includes another one, like a
>>> header/menu/footer main that includes
>>> a data area.
>>> If I just put the include (or require code) following the
>>> page sequence, that's ok, the Netscape 6 shows correctly the source.
>>> If I add something like (if (isSet($var) && $var == 10) {})
>>> before the include
>>> (or require) and $var exists and has value 10, the parser
>>> will process the include, show
>>> the page, but Netscape don't show the source code of this part.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have a very hard time believing this. Now, I can
>> imagine a few instances where this might come into play, but then you
>> would have to actually design for this to happen, but you didn't. I
>> would have to imagine that something was wrong with your actual code
>> logic, as PHP is only as good as the HTML you code, and the logic you
>> use. If the if statement was failing, of course it would not include
>> the file. At the same time, why you used both isset() and $var == 10
>> when $var == 10 would have worked fine also makes me wonder about the
>> underlying code.
>
> Yeah I know...I can say that I still don't believe..but it happens! :)
> If you (or anyone here) has Netscape 6 (I'm using the 6.01) could try
> the following codes:
>
> File: netscape6.php
> echo "\n";
> echo "this is a test...this is the first part\n";
> echo "this is a test...this is the second part\n";
> echo " name=\"netscape\">\n";
> echo "\n";
> echo "\n";
> echo "\n";
> echo "\n";
> ?>
>
> File: netscape6.1.php
> echo "\n";
> echo "1) this is a test...this is the first part\n";
> echo "this is a test...this is the second part\n";
> if ( $var == 10)
> {
> include ('netscape6.2.php');
> }
> echo "this is a test...this is the last part\n";
> echo "\n";
> ?>
>
> File: netscape6.2.php
> echo "this is the other file...\n";
> ?>
>
>
>
> Ok, now that you have all the three sample files you can check for
> HTML errors...
> How I did the test:
> 1. Run Netscape 6
> 2. Access file netscape6.php
> 3. Press the 'Test' button that POST to netscape6.1.php
> 4. See the page and compare with the source code (View Page Source)
> 5. Surprise! They are different...the netscape6.2.php file is not in the
> source.
>
> 6. Change the netscape6.1.php file on the following lines:
> 3: echo "2) this is a test...this is the first part\n";
> 5: // if ( $var == 10)
> 6: //{
> 8: //}
> 7. Great! Now that you just take the if statement out, clear the
> Netscape
> Cache (Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cache -> Clear Memory Cache
> and
> Clear Disk Cache)
> 8. Access file netscape6.php again..
> 9. Press the 'Test' button that POST to netscape6.1.php
> 10. The result is the same that you've get before but now, when you view
> the source code, the result of netscape6.2.php is there too..
> 11. Be sure to see the '2)' on the Page Source. If the '1)' is still
> there
> you need to clean your cache.
>
> Anyone did this test? How Netscape know that there is an if statment
> there??
> Any point that I'm missing on this test?
>
>>> This is not a big deal when dealing with simple pages, but,
>>> if you have a form on this
>>> page, it will not work right since after the page comes to
>>> the browser and is shown, it
>>> doesn't recognize it anymore.
>>> It's very strange but I tested it and it happened that
>>> way...changing something on PHP
>>> code, changes the behaviour of the browser..
>>
>> No. PHP does what you tell it to do, and by all accounts, I can only
>> see that you were telling PHP NOT to display the code.
>
> Try the test above.. It shows the code but netscape doesn't know that.
>
> See you,
> Lucas Persona
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Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ , anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
You need some closing table row tags in lines 19,34,49,64,79,94. DAve on 5/17/01 4:21 PM, Brandon Orther at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -- > Dave Goodrich > Director of Interface Development > Reality Based Learning Company > 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 > Redmond, WA 98052 > Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 > Fax (425) 558-5655 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.rblc.com > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ , anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Do you have a URL I could try? I've used PHP to generate a lot of dynamic js and css. DAve on 5/17/01 1:50 PM, Billy Harvey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> 1. I am not making a JavaScript version at all I don't see where I ever say >> this. ??? >> >> 2. If I copy the html outputted to the browser and past it into an html file >> it loads good. When I say I suspect this to be something wrong with PHP I >> mean that Netscape doesn't play good with PHP.(Not that PHP has a bug in it) >> >> Thanks, >> Brandon > > Brandon, > > Neither Netscape nor any other browser has any clue that PHP is being > used on the server. All broswers simply interpret the html, > javascript, java, etc.that gets sent to them. PHP is not a factor in > whatever is causing a browser to misbehave. For Netscape it's often > an improperly formed table that causes trouble. I occassionally find > that people also use IE-centric code without realizing it (or perhaps > without caring initially). > > Billy -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
