RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-19 Thread Chris W. Parker
Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:56 PM said:

 HTML-Kit (www.chami.com) will do this. I've been using HTML-Kit for
 almost 2 years and I've never had a problem with a bad save.

 I use HTML-Kit as well and feel it is a bloated pile of crap.

i'm sorry you've had so much trouble with it! but in the hopes of not
scaring off other users i feel it is my duty as an html-kit user to
respond.

 Tab
 handling is broken (if you select tabs over spaces, selected text
 will still indent with spaces if you press tab to indent the whole
 block of code).  It suffers from severe option overload.  It lacks
 the ability to use secure FTP.  It also lacks simple features like
 setting a block of selected text to all lowercase without a plugin.

1. i use spaces all the time so this is not a problem for me.
2. i admit it, there are a *ton* of options. most of which i have not
even bothered to set.
3. until very recently i have worked exclusively with a local ftp server
so a secure connection has not been a concern.
4. i've never wanted to set a block of text to all lowercase so i can't
really comment on this one.

 The only feature I actually like is the ability to edit files via FTP
 so that when I hit save, it uploads the new copy to the server.  So
 if that's all you really care about in an editor, HTML-Kit will do a
 fine job.

that pretty much sums it up for me. :)

 Also, if you tell it where PHP is found on your local
 machine, it will highlight all of the PHP function names.

i thought html-kit did this based on the filename extension? i've never
pointed html-kit to any php executable (considering it's not even on my
local machine) and it recognizes functions fine. are you referring to
something else?



chris.

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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-19 Thread Aaron Gould
 i'm sorry you've had so much trouble with it! but in the hopes of not
 scaring off other users i feel it is my duty as an html-kit user to
 respond.
I'll back you up on this.  I've used HTML-Kit for quite some time... 
probably over three years now.  Great little program, especially for free!

 1. i use spaces all the time so this is not a problem for me.
 2. i admit it, there are a *ton* of options. most of which i have not
 even bothered to set.
 3. until very recently i have worked exclusively with a local ftp
 server so a secure connection has not been a concern.
 4. i've never wanted to set a block of text to all lowercase so
 i can't really comment on this one.
Same on all accounts for me. Changing the case of blocked text does 
indeed require an extension, but I regard this as a strength of 
HTML-Kit.  It is infinitely expandable with plug-ins/extensions.

 i thought html-kit did this based on the filename extension? i've
 never pointed html-kit to any php executable (considering it's not
 even on my local machine) and it recognizes functions fine. are
 you referring to something else?
Same here; it takes the appropriate colour scheme based on file 
extension.  You can point to help files for languages though, I believe...

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[PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Lauri
Best groupmember,

What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly
to the FTP?

I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future to
connect to the FTP.

- Best Of Times
/Peter Lauri

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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Jason Wong
On Thursday 18 November 2004 16:41, Peter Lauri wrote:

 What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly
 to the FTP?

 I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future to
 connect to the FTP.

Any KDE-aware editor would be able to take advantage of KDE's transparent file 
access over various protocols (ftp, ssh, etc).

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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:41:53 +0100, Peter Lauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly
 to the FTP?

Editplus has this ability.

http://editplus.com/


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RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Gryffyn, Trevor
I use Crimson Editor which will save directly to an FTP location fairly
easily.   I'm not sure if they fixed this, but in earlier versions it
wouldn't save a local backup copy and I ran into problems where it would
fail to send via FTP, I'd have a zero byte file on the remote web server
and would close Crimson Editor without testing first or something.. So
I'd lose whatever edits I did since my last backup.   So I stopped using
the Save to FTP feature.

I do believe that they do local backups now, but out of habit I don't
use the FTP Feature.

I bet Zend Studio will save remotely too.

-TG


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 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:24 AM
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 Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?
 
 
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:41:53 +0100, Peter Lauri 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What editor do you use when working with websites (php) 
 connected directly
  to the FTP?
 
 Editplus has this ability.
 
http://editplus.com/


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RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Chris W. Parker
Peter Lauri mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 AM said:

 What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected
 directly to the FTP?
 
 I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future
 to connect to the FTP.

HTML-Kit (www.chami.com) will do this. I've been using HTML-Kit for
almost 2 years and I've never had a problem with a bad save.


hth,
chris.

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Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Chris
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:35:42 -0800, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Peter Lauri mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 AM said:
What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected
directly to the FTP?
I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future
to connect to the FTP.
HTML-Kit (www.chami.com) will do this. I've been using HTML-Kit for
almost 2 years and I've never had a problem with a bad save.
hth,
chris.
I use HTML-Kit as well and feel it is a bloated pile of crap.  Tab  
handling is broken (if you select tabs over spaces, selected text will  
still indent with spaces if you press tab to indent the whole block of  
code).  It suffers from severe option overload.  It lacks the ability to  
use secure FTP.  It also lacks simple features like setting a block of  
selected text to all lowercase without a plugin.

The only feature I actually like is the ability to edit files via FTP so  
that when I hit save, it uploads the new copy to the server.  So if that's  
all you really care about in an editor, HTML-Kit will do a fine job.   
Also, if you tell it where PHP is found on your local machine, it will  
highlight all of the PHP function names.

I have tried Ultra Edit, which claims to have a similar feature and  
supports secure FTP, but has a horrible implementation compared to  
HTML-Kit.  EditPlus claims it can connect via secure FTP through an SSH  
tunnel, which simply does not work if the server it is connecting to does  
not allow FTP connections at all.

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