Re: [PHP] PHP5 binaries

2005-05-20 Thread Duncan Hill
On Friday 20 May 2005 17:58, Marcus Bointon wrote:
> It seems that none of the current major Linux distros provide PHP5  
> binary installation packages. By major I mean, RedHat, Fedora (it  
> will be in F4 when released), Mandriva, Debian, Ubuntu, possibly  
> others. Seriously, none have standard PHP5 packages, even optional  
> ones. Does no-one use PHP5??? It's not exactly bleeding edge, having  
> made a final release nearly a year ago.

Kubuntu (ie, Ubuntu with KDE as default) has php5 available as a standard i386 
package according to aptitude.  No amd64 binary package by the looks though.

And depending on whether you consider gentoo 'major' or not.. php5 has been 
the default for the past 3 releases or so.

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[PHP] PHP5 binaries

2005-05-20 Thread Marcus Bointon
It seems that none of the current major Linux distros provide PHP5  
binary installation packages. By major I mean, RedHat, Fedora (it  
will be in F4 when released), Mandriva, Debian, Ubuntu, possibly  
others. Seriously, none have standard PHP5 packages, even optional  
ones. Does no-one use PHP5??? It's not exactly bleeding edge, having  
made a final release nearly a year ago.

I'm trying to set up an automatable installation system for such  
evident rarities as RedHat Enterprise Linux 4, and I just can't find  
anything workable. Even php4 binaries are rare (especially ones with  
flexible options including things like pcntl). Perl is massively  
supported, with binaries for hundreds of extensions widely available.  
Why does PHP get such second-rate treatment? Is it particularly hard  
to build packages for?

I'm quite used to building PHP5 from source, but it's not the most  
elegant way of deploying things. The PHP download page says "Most  
Linux distributions come with PHP these days, so if you do not want  
to compile your own, go to your distribution's download site.", but  
that's no use if no-one actually provides them for current releases.

Even in the various rpm repositories PHP5 is a rare beast - for  
example rpmforge's members don't include it. rpmbone provides some  
very basic rpms, but they suffer from dependency problems (even when  
accessed via apt-get).

Any other ideas?
Marcus
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