Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-02 Thread Jochem Maas
Paul van Haren wrote:
 OK guys, thanks for all your inputs. 
 
 Based on your guidance, I have tested the following code with a
 series of variations: 
 
   class foobar {
   function bar2 () {
   echo Yep, in bar2() right now\n;
   }
 
   public function foo2 () {
   $a = bar2;// Experiment 0
   $a();   // Fatal error
   }
   }
 
 And the variations:
   $a = bar2;// Experiment 0
   $a();   // Fatal error: Call to undefined function 
 bar2()
 
   $a = foobar::bar2;// Experiment 1
   $a();   // Fatal error: Call to undefined function 
 bar2()
 
   $a = bar2;// Experiment 2
   eval($a.();); // Fatal error: Call to undefined function 
 bar2()
 
   $a = foobar::bar2;// Experiment 3
   eval($a.();); // Works but far from elegant
 
   $a = bar2;// Experiment 4
   $this-$a();// Works fine
 
   $a = bar2;// Experiment 5
   self::$a(); // Works fine
 
 So, I have a working solution right now. But I still don't understand the
 essence of the differences between experiment #1 and #4. Also, I don't
 understand the need to specify the class name in experiment #3, coming
 from #2. Functions bar2() and foo2() are part of the same class foobar,
 and I would assume that the name 'bar2' would be in scope of the function
 foo2.

your assumptions and php's reality differ. symbol names resolution is never
tired in the class scope.

$a = foobar::bar2;
$a();

this is trying to call a function called foobar::bar2, which given that
you cant do (parse error):

function foobar::bar2() {}

whatever munged error message you get regarding 'bar2()' not existing,
the fact remains that 'variable' function name functionality has no concept
of class scope, the T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is not recognized. never has been,
probably never will be.

class foo {
function bar1() {
$a = foo::bar2;   
call_user_func(explode(::,$a));
}

static function bar2() {
echo __METHOD__,\n;
}
}

$foo = new foo; $foo-bar1();


having no idea what it is that your actually trying to achieve, it's hard
to tell whether any percieved limitation is justified.

you might consider taking a look at reflection:

http://nl2.php.net/reflection


 
 BTW: I'm running PHP v5.2.0-8 build and distributed by Debian (etch1).
 
 Thanks again and regards, Paul.
 

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[PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Sebastian Hopfe

It seems to be a PHP Bug, because normaly it should very well.

but you can solve this problem, by a workarround.

using eval($a.();); instead of $a(); in the class.

Best regards
Sebastian


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Hi there,

I'm trying to execute function variables. This works fine outside class
code, but gives a fatal error when run within a class. The demo code is
here:

?php

function bar1 () {
echo Yep, in bar1() right now\n;
}

function foo1 () {
bar1();

$a = bar1;
print_r ($a); echo \n;
$a();
}

class foobar {
function bar2 () {
echo Yep, in bar2() right now\n;
}

public function foo2 () {
foobar::bar2();

$a = foobar::bar2;
print_r ($a); echo \n;
$a();
}
}

foo1();


$fb = new foobar ();
$fb-foo2();
?

The error message reads:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function
foobar::bar2() in /home/paul/demo/demo.php on line 25

Is there anyone out there who can explain what's wrong in this code?

Thanks, Paul 


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[PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Paul van Haren
Thanks, this helps. The code now works. 
In case this is truely a bug in PHP, where should I log it? Anything that
I should do to make sure that it gets followed up?

Regards, Paul

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[PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Sebastian Hopfe

I think you should log it, because it seems to be, and you found this error.

Regard
Sebastian

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Thanks, this helps. The code now works.
In case this is truely a bug in PHP, where should I log it? Anything that
I should do to make sure that it gets followed up?

Regards, Paul 


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Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On 11/1/07, Sebastian Hopfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think you should log it, because it seems to be, and you found this
 error.


i would not consider this a bug.
what paul is asking about is the variable function syntax in php.
http://www.php.net/manual/en/functions.variable-functions.php

whats happening is php is not resolving the first portion of the variable
contents
to a class name, nor is it capable of resolving the scope resolution syntax
when
dynamically evaluating a variable contents in the context of a method call.
there is no mention of such support in the manual.

consider this fragament (it will not work)
class DynamicMethodCaller {
public function memFunc() {
echo __METHOD__ . PHP_EOL;
}

public function invoker($dynamicMethod) {
$dynamicMethod();
}
}

$instance = new DynamicMethodCaller();
$instance-invoker('$this-memFunc');


now consider this revision (which works perfectly)
class DynamicMethodCaller {
public function memFunc() {
echo __METHOD__ . PHP_EOL;
 }

public function invoker($dynamicMethod) {
$this-$dynamicMethod();
 }
 }

$instance = new DynamicMethodCaller();
$instance-invoker('memFunc');


the only difference between this fragment and the one
originally posted is the use of static member functions in the
original post.  here are 2 fragments showing what works
and what doesnt when working with static class member functions

(doest work)
class DynamicMethodCaller {
static public function memFunc() {
echo __METHOD__ . PHP_EOL;
 }

public function invoker($dynamicMethod) {
$dynamicMethod();
 }
 }

$instance = new DynamicMethodCaller();
$instance-invoker('DynamicMethodCaller::memFunc');

(works)
class DynamicMethodCaller {
public function memFunc() {
echo __METHOD__ . PHP_EOL;
 }

public function invoker($dynamicMethod) {
self::$dynamicMethod();
 }
 }

$instance = new DynamicMethodCaller();
$instance-invoker('memFunc');

in general the use of eval() should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
in this case it is not necessary; just use the syntax supported by the
interpreter
and youre good to go.

-nathan


Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Jochem Maas
Sebastian Hopfe wrote:
 I think you should log it, because it seems to be, and you found this
 error.

it's not a bug - especially because nobody has bothered to mention the php 
version.

I'm guessing that it's being run on a version php5, in which case the fatal 
error
seems correct - you have a non-static method defined and then you are trying to
call that method statically which is not allowed (IIRC whether this works or not
depends on the minor version of php5 your running - something the OO-purism gang
forced on us, actually the restriction may have been removed again - I've 
completely
lost track of the state of the exact OO rules in any given version of php5)

 
 Regard
 Sebastian
 
 Paul van Haren [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thanks, this helps. The code now works.
 In case this is truely a bug in PHP, where should I log it? Anything that
 I should do to make sure that it gets followed up?

 Regards, Paul 
 

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Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On 11/1/07, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sebastian Hopfe wrote:
  I think you should log it, because it seems to be, and you found this
  error.

 it's not a bug - especially because nobody has bothered to mention the php
 version.


this issue has the same implications in php4 and php5, because its about
variable functions
and phps inability to resolve class names or references from the contents of
a variable
when the variable is used in the context of a class method invocation.

I'm guessing that it's being run on a version php5, in which case the fatal
 error
 seems correct - you have a non-static method defined and then you are
 trying to
 call that method statically which is not allowed (IIRC whether this works
 or not
 depends on the minor version of php5 your running - something the
 OO-purism gang
 forced on us, actually the restriction may have been removed again - I've
 completely
 lost track of the state of the exact OO rules in any given version of
 php5)


i dont know what the version granularity is either regarding the use of
static class methods
being invoked when the methods are not declared static.  i dont think ive
ever seen a fatal
error raised for that, and at any rate, the error clearly indicates that it
pertains to the misuse
of static method, in that case, which is not the case in the error message
reported earlier.

Error raised when invoking a method not defined as static from a static
context:
(5.2.4-pl2-gentoo)
Strict standards: Non-static method Foo::nonStaticMethod() should not be
called statically in
/home/nathan/workspace/sacd/svn/itc-dev/testStaticCall2.php on line 14

(original error message from this thread)
Fatal error: Call to undefined function foobar::bar2() in
/home/paul/demo/demo.php on line 25

this strengthens the case that i made earlier, namely this issue is a result
of phps lack of
resolving class names and references when they are embedded in a string that
is used as
a variable function.

here is a code fragment to test the static method calls out against any
version of php5.

?php
class Foo {
static public function staticMethod() {
echo __METHOD__ . PHP_EOL;
}

public function nonStaticMethod() {
echo __METHOD__ . PHP_EOL;
}
}

Foo::staticMethod();
Foo::nonstaticMethod();
$foo = new Foo();
$foo-staticMethod();
$foo-nonstaticMethod();
?

on php 5.2.4 you will have to enable E_STRICT to see the warning.

error_reporting  =  E_ALL | E_STRICT

-nathan


Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:10 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote:
 I've completely lost track of the state of the exact OO rules in any
 given version of php5)

Haha, you too eh!?

BTW, I finally bothered to download PHP 5.2.4 last night and checked it
out. This is the first time I've seen a speed improvement over PHP4 for
my work. Most of my pages gained a 10% to 20% load time improvement. One
thing that was odd though was when I built a few sites from the shell
using InterJinn's template engine, the time spent doubled. So I guess I
win some and lose some :) Page load time is more important since I don't
often build whole sites from scratch. Still perplexing though what could
have slowed down so much... I'll have to dig into it with a profiler
sometime when I have more free time.

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:10 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote:
 I've completely lost track of the state of the exact OO rules in any
 given version of php5)
 
 Haha, you too eh!?
 
 BTW, I finally bothered to download PHP 5.2.4 last night and checked it
 out. This is the first time I've seen a speed improvement over PHP4 for
 my work. Most of my pages gained a 10% to 20% load time improvement. One
 thing that was odd though was when I built a few sites from the shell
 using InterJinn's template engine, the time spent doubled. So I guess I
 win some and lose some :) Page load time is more important since I don't
 often build whole sites from scratch. Still perplexing though what could
 have slowed down so much... I'll have to dig into it with a profiler
 sometime when I have more free time.

interesting info - thanks for the heads up.

 
 Cheers,
 Rob.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 17:16 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote:
 Robert Cummings wrote:
  On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:10 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote:
  I've completely lost track of the state of the exact OO rules in any
  given version of php5)
  
  Haha, you too eh!?
  
  BTW, I finally bothered to download PHP 5.2.4 last night and checked it
  out. This is the first time I've seen a speed improvement over PHP4 for
  my work. Most of my pages gained a 10% to 20% load time improvement. One
  thing that was odd though was when I built a few sites from the shell
  using InterJinn's template engine, the time spent doubled. So I guess I
  win some and lose some :) Page load time is more important since I don't
  often build whole sites from scratch. Still perplexing though what could
  have slowed down so much... I'll have to dig into it with a profiler
  sometime when I have more free time.
 
 interesting info - thanks for the heads up.

Yeah, I'm going to make it my default development version now :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Re: Function variables in classes

2007-11-01 Thread Paul van Haren
OK guys, thanks for all your inputs. 

Based on your guidance, I have tested the following code with a
series of variations: 

class foobar {
function bar2 () {
echo Yep, in bar2() right now\n;
}

public function foo2 () {
$a = bar2;// Experiment 0
$a();   // Fatal error
}
}

And the variations:
  $a = bar2;// Experiment 0
  $a();   // Fatal error: Call to undefined function bar2()

  $a = foobar::bar2;// Experiment 1
  $a();   // Fatal error: Call to undefined function bar2()

  $a = bar2;// Experiment 2
  eval($a.();); // Fatal error: Call to undefined function bar2()

  $a = foobar::bar2;// Experiment 3
  eval($a.();); // Works but far from elegant

  $a = bar2;// Experiment 4
  $this-$a();// Works fine

  $a = bar2;// Experiment 5
  self::$a(); // Works fine

So, I have a working solution right now. But I still don't understand the
essence of the differences between experiment #1 and #4. Also, I don't
understand the need to specify the class name in experiment #3, coming
from #2. Functions bar2() and foo2() are part of the same class foobar,
and I would assume that the name 'bar2' would be in scope of the function
foo2.

BTW: I'm running PHP v5.2.0-8 build and distributed by Debian (etch1).

Thanks again and regards, Paul.

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