Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC!
Myron Turner wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Myron Turner wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I would have made a similar comment - but I have soap stuck between my teeth atm :-P Just use a little of that saliva that you've been wasting on spitballs. ;-) ok - I'm all soaped up now - I'll try a be nicer in future. the general point stands but the manner in which it was brought did leave plenty of room for improvement, have a bad day is no excuse really! anyway I do my best to be more diplomatic when I try to tackle a misplaced post/person/wotsit in future. apologies to the OP is question for the tone. You are wonderfully good-humored for a grinch (you know--the guy who stole Christmas). I stole it and now I've misplaced it ;-/ Myself, I'm just a pretty old guy--like add sept to agenarian-- don't quite follow that but I'll assume you have a couple more years on the clock than I do ... hey somebody has to right? ;-) who does this for fun and the occasional cash and (at my age) sort of likes things peaceful. I've only been using the list a short while, but it is very indebted to a small number of knowledgeable contributors, yourself included, who give a lot of their time. my/our debt to society ;-) always nice to here when one's ramblings have been of use to others, and for me it's not a one way thing by any means - I learn plenty for other clever souls on this list :-) I really can understand your frustration with off topic posts, when you put so much into the list, but they seem impossible to stop. sometimes you just have an off day and then someone comes along and posts something that's way out there (and seemingly blantantly in the full knowledge that it's OT) and then they get earful ... I'm as suseptable as the next man to losing his cool. that said there is also a constant need to address newcomers to how to 'live' in this environment (asking smart questions and asking in the right place, that sort of thing) - the kind of advice I too needed when I was starting out :-) onward and upward. Cheers, Myron -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC!
Myron Turner wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I would have made a similar comment - but I have soap stuck between my teeth atm :-P Just use a little of that saliva that you've been wasting on spitballs. ;-) ok - I'm all soaped up now - I'll try a be nicer in future. the general point stands but the manner in which it was brought did leave plenty of room for improvement, have a bad day is no excuse really! anyway I do my best to be more diplomatic when I try to tackle a misplaced post/person/wotsit in future. apologies to the OP is question for the tone. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC! (was: [PHP] MYSQLyog)
Understood. I will think harder next time before posting. - Original Message - From: Jim Moseby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jochem Maas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jonathan Kahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]; php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC! (was: [PHP] MYSQLyog) Jonathan Kahan wrote: I will look at Jim's suggestion. I tried the % and it still failed. FYI-I have seen posts here much less related to PHP than my own without such responses. so that make's your totally offtopic question okay then does? I suppose you condone murder also because, heck, others have done it before, right? And yes in my mind this is part of PHP in that PHP interacts with MYSQL and thus this has a bearing on my ability to write PHP programs in the future. your mind seems rather clouded or just plain narrow. you can't connect to a mysql server using some window gui app ... there is no php there, period. I have already written a few PHP programs without using the mysql functions which yes are a part of PHP. technically the mysql wrapper functions are part of a php extension. there are plenty of people who run php without the mysql extension btw. This is an email support group-I am not attempting a masters thesis here. this is general php support list - please do come back when you have trouble with mysql_connect(), mysql_query() and the like. otherwise go get your help from the correct source, I'm sure there is plenty to be found at mysql.com for example (or webyog.com???). Put another (kinder? gentler?) way: While the fine folks of the PHP General list might be able to make a pretty good guess as to the solution to your non-PHP problem, you would find much better, quicker, more accurate (and less prickly) advice from the MYSQLyog or MYSQL support lists. The more we can keep the topic focused on PHP here, the better the perpetual archive will be for PHP knowledge seekers going forward. JM -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC! (was: [PHP] MYSQLyog)
Jonathan Kahan wrote: Understood. I will think harder next time before posting. - Original Message - From: Jim Moseby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jochem Maas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jonathan Kahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]; php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC! (was: [PHP] MYSQLyog) so that make's your totally offtopic question okay then does? I suppose you condone murder also because, heck, others have done it before, right? And yes in my mind this is part of PHP in that PHP interacts with MYSQL and thus this has a bearing on my ability to write PHP programs in the future. your mind seems rather clouded or just plain narrow. you can't connect to a mysql server using some window gui app ... there is no php there, period. I have already written a few PHP programs without using the mysql functions which yes are a part of PHP. technically the mysql wrapper functions are part of a php extension. there are plenty of people who run php without the mysql extension btw. This is an email support group-I am not attempting a masters thesis here. this is general php support list - please do come back when you have trouble with mysql_connect(), mysql_query() and the like. otherwise go get your help from the correct source, I'm sure there is plenty to be found at mysql.com for example (or webyog.com???). Put another (kinder? gentler?) way: While the fine folks of the PHP General list might be able to make a pretty good guess as to the solution to your non-PHP problem, you would find much better, quicker, more accurate (and less prickly) advice from the MYSQLyog or MYSQL support lists. The more we can keep the topic focused on PHP here, the better the perpetual archive will be for PHP knowledge seekers going forward. JM I've been following this thread on and off, because I found the unnecessarily hostile tone of the initial response so off-putting. But while this rather small infraction of OT code, which can in fact be defended, had been taking place, at the same time on this list an ongoing, extensive discussion of the relative merits of various databases has been going on and yet no one has said a word. My guess is that Jonathan, as new to the list, was being selectively picked on, while the guardians of the list looked the other way with respect to the other thread because some of the people involved there are long time, valuable contributors, with lots of weapons at their disposal. I could be wrong, of course. But I'm certainly not wrong to believe that the remedy for a foul mouth is soap and water. -- _ Myron Turner http://www.room535.org http://www.bstatzero.org http://www.mturner.org/XML_PullParser/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC! (was: [PHP] MYSQLyog)
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 10:47 -0500, Myron Turner wrote: Jonathan Kahan wrote: I've been following this thread on and off, because I found the unnecessarily hostile tone of the initial response so off-putting. But while this rather small infraction of OT code, which can in fact be defended, had been taking place, at the same time on this list an ongoing, extensive discussion of the relative merits of various databases has been going on and yet no one has said a word. My guess is that Jonathan, as new to the list, was being selectively picked on, while the guardians of the list looked the other way with respect to the other thread because some of the people involved there are long time, valuable contributors, with lots of weapons at their disposal. I could be wrong, of course. But I'm certainly not wrong to believe that the remedy for a foul mouth is soap and water. I'm sorry, but your rant is off topic. Please find another list for it. ;) :B Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC! (was: [PHP] MYSQLyog)
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 10:47 -0500, Myron Turner wrote: Jonathan Kahan wrote: I've been following this thread on and off, because I found the unnecessarily hostile tone of the initial response so off-putting. But while this rather small infraction of OT code, which can in fact be defended, had been taking place, at the same time on this list an ongoing, extensive discussion of the relative merits of various databases has been going on and yet no one has said a word. My guess is that Jonathan, as new to the list, was being selectively picked on, while the guardians of the list looked the other way with respect to the other thread because some of the people involved there are long time, valuable contributors, with lots of weapons at their disposal. I could be wrong, of course. But I'm certainly not wrong to believe that the remedy for a foul mouth is soap and water. I'm sorry, but your rant is off topic. Please find another list for it. I would have made a similar comment - but I have soap stuck between my teeth atm :-P ;) :B Cheers, Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC!
Jochem Maas wrote: I would have made a similar comment - but I have soap stuck between my teeth atm :-P Just use a little of that saliva that you've been wasting on spitballs. ;-) -- _ Myron Turner http://www.room535.org http://www.bstatzero.org http://www.mturner.org/XML_PullParser/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Keep the PHP list ON TOPIC!
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 12:35 -0500, Myron Turner wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I would have made a similar comment - but I have soap stuck between my teeth atm :-P Just use a little of that saliva that you've been wasting on spitballs. ;-) I always preferred soap as a kid over a belting. At least with soap I could pretend it really bothered me... bruises not so easy :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
