Re: [PHP] Re: Newsgroup status
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 18:42 +0100, Geoff Lane wrote: On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Jason Pruim wrote: It's time for the next generation to start picking up the slack and helping out and asking questions :) To be honest, I've started three or four cries for help in the last few days. However, on each occasion I've spotted the answer before actually hitting 'Send' (and just as well because all were due to typos!) However, I do have one residual question. I suspect the short answer to this is No, but since the list is quiet I'll ask anyway: Q: Is it possible to check whether Javascript is available on the client without using client-side Javascript to create a form and hence pass a variable that will only be set if Javascript is available on the client? Is there something in $_SERVER etc. that can provide this info? TIA, -- Geoff Firstly, please do not hijack a thread, if you have a question, start your own. We won't bite if you create new threads, whereas we might a little if you hijack ;) There are ways to detect the general capabilities of the client machine, however they are generalisations, and may not be accurate. Try and grab an up-to-date browscap.ini file, and use this in conjunction with the user agent string found in the $_SERVER array. This should tell you whether the user agent is capable of running Javascript. Bear in mind that this has several problems: * A browser might be Javascript capable but may have it turned off or disabled by a plugin * The Javascript may have been filtered out by a a firewall (which is rare but possible) * A browser could be masking as another one by giving the wrong user agent string * A browser may not even give up the user agent string, or it may have been filtered out somewhere along the line A better approach is to only use the Javascript to enhance the site progressively, and not rely on it for functionality. However, if you really must rely on Javascript and you don't care about going to hell for it, then why not use Javascript to pull in the content via Ajax and leave some sort of apology notice in the cases where the content can't be displayed. It's not often though that you really can't do something without Javascript, unless you're doing something incredibly complex like creating the next Google Docs. Even Facebook works on mobile devices without Javascript. -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Re: Newsgroup status
well, no question ,may be a big question! 2011/4/28 Geoff Lane ge...@gjctech.co.uk On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Jason Pruim wrote: It's time for the next generation to start picking up the slack and helping out and asking questions :) To be honest, I've started three or four cries for help in the last few days. However, on each occasion I've spotted the answer before actually hitting 'Send' (and just as well because all were due to typos!) However, I do have one residual question. I suspect the short answer to this is No, but since the list is quiet I'll ask anyway: Q: Is it possible to check whether Javascript is available on the client without using client-side Javascript to create a form and hence pass a variable that will only be set if Javascript is available on the client? Is there something in $_SERVER etc. that can provide this info? TIA, -- Geoff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
Al wrote: Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. Al other sites are working just fine. Newsgroup? I presume you are using Gmane (as I am). Seems fine for me. Col. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:49:52 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: Al wrote: Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. Al other sites are working just fine. Newsgroup? I presume you are using Gmane (as I am). I'm using Pan and it's taking ages for me to connect. It just queues my tasks and then suddenly it connects and executes the tasks. Then after a minute or so of inactivity it closes the connection again. It gets really annoying and I seem to have lost a post of mine as well. Ivo -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
I'm having terrible response times for connecting to the news server, getting new headers and downloading messages. Can take minutes to do one task or times out. I'm using Outlook Express 6. Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. Al other sites are working just fine. Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
I´m using outtlook express 6 as well and i´m facing the same trouble. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu na mensagem news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm having terrible response times for connecting to the news server, getting new headers and downloading messages. Can take minutes to do one task or times out. I'm using Outlook Express 6. Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. Al other sites are working just fine. Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:49:52 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: Al wrote: Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. Al other sites are working just fine. Newsgroup? I presume you are using Gmane (as I am). I can't determine by the OP's headers how he is reading the ng, but I am reading gmane.comp.php.general from the news.gmane.org server using slrn. (I'll have to double check _my_ headers after posting -- lots of noise in those headers) It _may_ be a little less snappy' than in the past (but then, my broadband service (sic) provider is on and off snafu here.) I would _not_ call it slow. Similar results with about 8 other Gmane ng's I read. Seems fine for me. I'm happy. I don't see a problem. Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones| jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 *** Killfiling google posts: http//jonz.net/ng.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
Al wrote: Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. All other sites are working just fine. Thanks. Same here. The group has become nearly unusable. I've been ignoring it for days as most of the time I get a timeout - from Thunderbird - connecting to news.php.net. -- * Chuck Anderson • Boulder, CO http://www.CycleTourist.com * -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup connect time has become very long
Al wrote: Anyone having problems connecting the last few days? Or, is there something wrong on my end. All other sites are working just fine. Thanks. Same here. The group has become nearly unusable. I've been ignoring it for days as most of the time I get a timeout - from Thunderbird - connecting to news.php.net. -- * Chuck Anderson • Boulder, CO http://www.CycleTourist.com * -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup Server?
Clete Rivers Blackwell 2 wrote: Is there a newsgroup server for this mailing list? news.php.net -- Jome -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup Server?
thanks :) Jome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clete Rivers Blackwell 2 wrote: Is there a newsgroup server for this mailing list? news.php.net -- Jome -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup?
Christopher Raymond wrote: What's the deal with the newsgroup version of this list? I'm using news.php.net as the news server address, but all I get are error messages. What error messages are you getting? You can't *POST* through the newsgroup -- Reply via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it works fine. Is this newsgroup still functional? I read your message using the newsgroup, so it would seem to be working for me... :-) -- Like music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Lynch) wrote: Christopher Raymond wrote: What's the deal with the newsgroup version of this list? I'm using news.php.net as the news server address, but all I get are error messages. What error messages are you getting? You can't *POST* through the newsgroup -- Reply via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it works fine. hmm i can post fine on the server, I dont sent to the maillist. I read your message using the newsgroup, so it would seem to be working for me... :-) me too -- Henrik Hansen -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Re: Newsgroup?
Yup, connect your news client to news.php.net. In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Raymond) wrote: Is this PHP listserve available as a newsgroup? I'm getting tired of managing this much mail everyday. I'd like it a bit simpler. If this list is not available, are there other equally busy newsgroups for PHP? Thanks, Christopher Raymond -- __ Gabe da Silveira, Web Designer Twin Cities Student Unions University of Minnesota http://www.coffman.umn.edu wFone: (612)624-7270 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hPage: http://www.visi.com/~jiblet -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
