Re: [PHP] Re: Really impressive work

2010-05-06 Thread tedd

At 9:43 PM -0400 5/5/10, Robert Cummings wrote:

Nathan Rixham wrote:

tedd wrote:

Hi gang:

I found something that really impressed me -- please review this:

http://palomarjewelry.com/product/id/19/collectionId/1/typeId/3


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I would use PNGs with alpha transparencies. You have X images with 
the appropriate positions and then you just overlay an alpha 
transparency PNG in the correct spot via CSS. Pretty simple 
actually. Relative position the ring, absolute position the stone 
relative to the ring. Even IE6 will support this with pngfix.js. 
Viewing the page media in Firefox though shows they are generating 
it server side though.


Cheers,
Rob.


Rob:

Yes, that's what I observed as well. The only way I could think they 
did it was to pull the positions for the overlays from a database. My 
inquiry was only to check if something new had emerged.


Cheers,

tedd

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[PHP] Re: Really impressive work

2010-05-05 Thread Nathan Rixham

tedd wrote:

Hi gang:

I found something that really impressed me -- please review this:

http://palomarjewelry.com/product/id/19/collectionId/1/typeId/3

Try changing the number and type of stones and watch the main image 
change (i.e., the basket).


If one calculates the number of permutations required to show this 
single piece of jewelry with 12 different stone types located in 15 
different stone positions, you will arrive at a very large number. The 
specific math escapes me at the moment but something in the order of 15 
factorial -- a very large number.


Now, I realize that this company did not take 15 factorial pictures of 
this single piece of jewelry to present all these different combinations 
but instead placed smaller images of each of the stones at specific 
coordinates on the larger image of the jewelry.


I imagine that each piece of jewelry must have the coordinates of each 
setting in a database so that they can on-the-fly assemble the 
finished product as per user's direction.


For example, let's take the image of the basket pendant showing three 
stones. Each of the stone locations would have a specific pixel 
placement (i.e., x,y). As such, the database would have a field for the 
image and three location fields for stones 1, 2, and 3.


Now, we also have smaller images of 12 different stones (in heads) that 
are all the same size. Thus, as the user picks the stones and positions 
they want and the image is assembled on the fly.


Is that the way you see this? Or is there a better way?


Better way, no. Alternative ways, yes.

SVG
Canvas + JS
HTML4 + CSS + JS (optional transparent pngs)
Flash
Any number of java plugins (although perhaps overkill).

Personally though, I'd go for SVG or the way it is currently implemented 
with server side gd or suchlike.


The reason for saying this is to ensure that the results were identical 
on as many platforms as possible - the one addition I would make would 
be an update image button which displayed on noscript, which 
resubmitted the page / form and showed the image - for those without (or 
with non compliant) js implementations.


I tend to agree that it's impressive, personally I don't think the code 
behind it rocket science; however the idea to peice what is essentially 
how many numbers do you want, what are those numbers together in such 
a user pleasing and useful way, is definately something to applaud :)


Best,

Nathan

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Re: [PHP] Re: Really impressive work

2010-05-05 Thread Robert Cummings

Nathan Rixham wrote:

tedd wrote:

Hi gang:

I found something that really impressed me -- please review this:

http://palomarjewelry.com/product/id/19/collectionId/1/typeId/3

Try changing the number and type of stones and watch the main image 
change (i.e., the basket).


If one calculates the number of permutations required to show this 
single piece of jewelry with 12 different stone types located in 15 
different stone positions, you will arrive at a very large number. The 
specific math escapes me at the moment but something in the order of 15 
factorial -- a very large number.


Now, I realize that this company did not take 15 factorial pictures of 
this single piece of jewelry to present all these different combinations 
but instead placed smaller images of each of the stones at specific 
coordinates on the larger image of the jewelry.


I imagine that each piece of jewelry must have the coordinates of each 
setting in a database so that they can on-the-fly assemble the 
finished product as per user's direction.


For example, let's take the image of the basket pendant showing three 
stones. Each of the stone locations would have a specific pixel 
placement (i.e., x,y). As such, the database would have a field for the 
image and three location fields for stones 1, 2, and 3.


Now, we also have smaller images of 12 different stones (in heads) that 
are all the same size. Thus, as the user picks the stones and positions 
they want and the image is assembled on the fly.


Is that the way you see this? Or is there a better way?


Better way, no. Alternative ways, yes.

SVG
Canvas + JS
HTML4 + CSS + JS (optional transparent pngs)
Flash
Any number of java plugins (although perhaps overkill).

Personally though, I'd go for SVG or the way it is currently implemented 
with server side gd or suchlike.


The reason for saying this is to ensure that the results were identical 
on as many platforms as possible - the one addition I would make would 
be an update image button which displayed on noscript, which 
resubmitted the page / form and showed the image - for those without (or 
with non compliant) js implementations.


I tend to agree that it's impressive, personally I don't think the code 
behind it rocket science; however the idea to peice what is essentially 
how many numbers do you want, what are those numbers together in such 
a user pleasing and useful way, is definately something to applaud :)


I would use PNGs with alpha transparencies. You have X images with the 
appropriate positions and then you just overlay an alpha transparency 
PNG in the correct spot via CSS. Pretty simple actually. Relative 
position the ring, absolute position the stone relative to the ring. 
Even IE6 will support this with pngfix.js. Viewing the page media in 
Firefox though shows they are generating it server side though.


Cheers,
Rob.
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