Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 7/27/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, July 27, 2007 7:35 am, Tijnema wrote: > > It's quite logical that it is done this way, if you understand how a > > mailing lists works ;) > > > > When you send a email to the mailing list, you send it without [PHP], > > and so Gmail thinks that's the message title. Once it arrives at the > > mailing list server, the server adds [PHP] in front of the title, and > > sends it to all subscribed members. All members that receive this > > message, get the message with [PHP] in front. Now when somebody > > replies to the list, the title will be something like Re: [PHP] Title. > > Now when gmail detects that this message still belongs to the same > > thread, it adds the message, and keeps the original title. Which is > > Title for the OP, and [PHP] Title for all other users. > > Then when a gmail user Cc:s me, I get a bunch of stuff in my Inbox > WITHOUT the [PHP] and WITHOUT the list headers, so it doesn't get > sorted properly into the PHP-General folder in my client. :-( :-( :-( That's a problem of the list, this list requires users to press the "Reply to all" button, or manually add the php list in the To or CC box. I'm on a few other lists where a simple press on the "Reply" button sends the message to the list, and not CCing anyone. (Reply-To header is set to the list address) Tijnema -- Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On Fri, July 27, 2007 7:35 am, Tijnema wrote: > It's quite logical that it is done this way, if you understand how a > mailing lists works ;) > > When you send a email to the mailing list, you send it without [PHP], > and so Gmail thinks that's the message title. Once it arrives at the > mailing list server, the server adds [PHP] in front of the title, and > sends it to all subscribed members. All members that receive this > message, get the message with [PHP] in front. Now when somebody > replies to the list, the title will be something like Re: [PHP] Title. > Now when gmail detects that this message still belongs to the same > thread, it adds the message, and keeps the original title. Which is > Title for the OP, and [PHP] Title for all other users. Then when a gmail user Cc:s me, I get a bunch of stuff in my Inbox WITHOUT the [PHP] and WITHOUT the list headers, so it doesn't get sorted properly into the PHP-General folder in my client. :-( :-( :-( -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 7/27/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, July 26, 2007 8:47 am, Daniel Brown wrote: > > On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> or am I going retarded again? > > > > > > This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't showing > > me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps because I'm > > the OP. > > I dunno what they are thinking to rip out the [PHP] whether it's on > threads you started or not. > > Do they expect that you actually remember something you typed > yesterday as a thread you started? > > Sheesh! > > Nobody does that. > > . > . > . > > Okay, so maybe that's just me. > :-) > It's quite logical that it is done this way, if you understand how a mailing lists works ;) When you send a email to the mailing list, you send it without [PHP], and so Gmail thinks that's the message title. Once it arrives at the mailing list server, the server adds [PHP] in front of the title, and sends it to all subscribed members. All members that receive this message, get the message with [PHP] in front. Now when somebody replies to the list, the title will be something like Re: [PHP] Title. Now when gmail detects that this message still belongs to the same thread, it adds the message, and keeps the original title. Which is Title for the OP, and [PHP] Title for all other users. Tijnema -- Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On Thu, July 26, 2007 8:47 am, Daniel Brown wrote: > On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> or am I going retarded again? > > > This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't showing > me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps because I'm > the OP. I dunno what they are thinking to rip out the [PHP] whether it's on threads you started or not. Do they expect that you actually remember something you typed yesterday as a thread you started? Sheesh! Nobody does that. . . . Okay, so maybe that's just me. :-) -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 26 July 2007 16:10, M. Sokolewicz wrote: > Daniel Brown wrote: > > On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > or am I going retarded again? > > > > > >This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't > > showing me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps > > because I'm the OP. > > > >/me shrugs. > > > > It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% > don't. For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has > it in between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books > doesn't, etc. What are you talking about??? That has to be an artifice of Gmail (and other clients?) -- every single message I've seen in every one of those topics has the [PHP] marker, just not always in exactly the same place: [PHP] About DOM function in PHP Re: [PHP] About DOM function in PHP [PHP] Re: About DOM function in PHP Re: [PHP] Re: About DOM function in PHP [PHP] Pirate PHP books online? Re: [PHP] Pirate PHP books online? [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? [PHP] Re: Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re: [PHP] Re: Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re[2]: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re: Re[2]: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? I think I can kinda see a logic in there to do with a combination of smart and dumb email clients, and when the PHP list server adds a [PHP] marker, but I leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out what it is... ;) Bottom line, the [PHP] marker *is* there on every message, and if you're not seeing it it's 'cos your client is (for whatever reason) stripping it. Cheers! Mike - Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, JG125, The Headingley Library, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Headingley Campus, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 812 4730 Fax: +44 113 812 3211 To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
Yeah, that's what I narrowed it down to as well. Must be a Gmail thing. On 7/26/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/26/07, Ford, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 July 2007 16:10, M. Sokolewicz wrote: > > > Daniel Brown wrote: > > > On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > or am I going retarded again? > > > > > > > > >This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't > > > showing me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps > > > because I'm the OP. > > > > > >/me shrugs. > > > > > > > It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% > > don't. For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has > > it in between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books > > doesn't, etc. > > What are you talking about??? That has to be an artifice of Gmail (and other clients?) -- every single message I've seen in every one of those topics has the [PHP] marker, just not always in exactly the same place: > > [PHP] About DOM function in PHP > Re: [PHP] About DOM function in PHP > [PHP] Re: About DOM function in PHP > Re: [PHP] Re: About DOM function in PHP > > [PHP] Pirate PHP books online? > Re: [PHP] Pirate PHP books online? > [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? > Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? > [PHP] Re: Re: Pirate PHP books online? > Re: [PHP] Re: Re: Pirate PHP books online? > Re[2]: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? > Re: Re[2]: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? > > I think I can kinda see a logic in there to do with a combination of smart and dumb email clients, and when the PHP list server adds a [PHP] marker, but I leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out what it is... ;) > > Bottom line, the [PHP] marker *is* there on every message, and if you're not seeing it it's 'cos your client is (for whatever reason) stripping it. > > Cheers! > > Mike > The only threads were [PHP] is missing for me are the threads that I started. All others start with [PHP] or Re: [PHP] Tijnema -- Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 7/26/07, Ford, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 July 2007 16:10, M. Sokolewicz wrote: > Daniel Brown wrote: > > On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > or am I going retarded again? > > > > > >This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't > > showing me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps > > because I'm the OP. > > > >/me shrugs. > > > > It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% > don't. For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has > it in between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books > doesn't, etc. What are you talking about??? That has to be an artifice of Gmail (and other clients?) -- every single message I've seen in every one of those topics has the [PHP] marker, just not always in exactly the same place: [PHP] About DOM function in PHP Re: [PHP] About DOM function in PHP [PHP] Re: About DOM function in PHP Re: [PHP] Re: About DOM function in PHP [PHP] Pirate PHP books online? Re: [PHP] Pirate PHP books online? [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? [PHP] Re: Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re: [PHP] Re: Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re[2]: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? Re: Re[2]: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online? I think I can kinda see a logic in there to do with a combination of smart and dumb email clients, and when the PHP list server adds a [PHP] marker, but I leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out what it is... ;) Bottom line, the [PHP] marker *is* there on every message, and if you're not seeing it it's 'cos your client is (for whatever reason) stripping it. Cheers! Mike The only threads were [PHP] is missing for me are the threads that I started. All others start with [PHP] or Re: [PHP] Tijnema -- Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 7/26/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 16:24 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > M. Sokolewicz wrote: > > It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% don't. > > For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has it in > > between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books doesn't, etc. > > I don't get them on any of my messages but then I read them all via nntp > and Gmane.org I get it in every message... must be a mail client thingy. Cheers, Rob. -- ... SwarmBuy.com - http://www.swarmbuy.com Leveraging the buying power of the masses! ... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php That's what I'm guessing. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
M. Sokolewicz wrote: > It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% don't. > For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has it in > between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books doesn't, etc. I don't get them on any of my messages but then I read them all via nntp and Gmane.org Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
Daniel Brown wrote: > On 7/26/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 16:24 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: >> > I don't get them on any of my messages but then I read them all via >> nntp >> > and Gmane.org >> >> I get it in every message... must be a mail client thingy. > >That's what I'm guessing. > See, marking a thread as OT is no barrier to taking it OT from the OT!! I love this list :p Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 16:24 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > M. Sokolewicz wrote: > > It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% don't. > > For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has it in > > between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books doesn't, etc. > > I don't get them on any of my messages but then I read them all via nntp > and Gmane.org I get it in every message... must be a mail client thingy. Cheers, Rob. -- ... SwarmBuy.com - http://www.swarmbuy.com Leveraging the buying power of the masses! ... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
Daniel Brown wrote: On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: or am I going retarded again? This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't showing me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps because I'm the OP. /me shrugs. It's not the only, about 50% of threads have it, and another 50% don't. For instance, the DOM thread does not have it, this thread has it in between Re:'s, Hide the real URL has it, Pirate PHP books doesn't, etc. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: or am I going retarded again? This has been confirmed. For whatever reason, Gmail isn't showing me the [PHP] mark in the subject for this thread. Perhaps because I'm the OP. /me shrugs. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
On 7/26/07, Colin Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I managed to convince the Irish domain people to let me register guthr.ie which I think is pretty cool. [snip] On the downside, as I use the domain quite a lot for numerous things, I now find it quite hard to write (type) my lastname /without/ the dot in it!! So my legacy will be to name any offspring with the dot in place on their birth certificate to avoid any hassle :p HA! Hey, on a side-note, has anyone else realized that this is apparently the only PHP thread in the history of the list to not have the prepended [PHP] in the subject line? or am I going retarded again? -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: The Official OT "Name Tedd's Grandson" Thread
tedd wrote: > At 8:53 AM -0400 7/25/07, Daniel Brown wrote: >>First of all, congrats to Tedd on his 9th grandchild, a boy, at >> 8lbs. 9oz. Congrats do Tedd and to your son and his partner! > My son just informed me that the baby's name is Jacob William Sperling. > I now have a grandson who's name sounds older than me. Besides my son, I > also have someone who I can pass the domain name of Sperling.com on to > -- if that accounts for anything. > > Kind of neat being the first digital Sperling. Have any of you thought > about the legacy you're leaving digitally? Well I managed to convince the Irish domain people to let me register guthr.ie which I think is pretty cool. Means I can create an email address that is literally just my name with an at sign and a dot thrown in! Also means that I can setup email addresses and websites for my family pretty easily :) On the downside, as I use the domain quite a lot for numerous things, I now find it quite hard to write (type) my lastname /without/ the dot in it!! So my legacy will be to name any offspring with the dot in place on their birth certificate to avoid any hassle :p Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php