RE: [PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
If you read through the archives you'll find it isn't so much that PHP is the problem per se, but many of the PHP modules. If you use the multi-threading model of Apache 2 (the raison d'etre for using Apache 2 for most people) then all the modules have to be thread-safe, and that's a non-trivial matter for many of the module authors and maintainers. If you use the pre-fork model of Apache 2 then you essentially have the "regular" version of Apache. > Don't expect it to be solved next few days.. There are some wierd > problems I > think... Kinda like you don't really know what could cause them or > something... > > -- > // DvDmanDT > MSN: dvdmandt¤hotmail.com > Mail: dvdmandt¤telia.com > "Thomas Svenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Chris, > > > > Chris TenHarmsel wrote: > > > Well, we're interested in stability. I figured since php4 had > > > been out for a while in "stable" form, it would be more stable > > > than php5. Is this the case, or is there a good feeling that > > > php5 will be considered "stable" in the next couple months? > > > > I've been playing around with PHP5 since before beta 2 and haven't > stumbled > > on any problems so far when coding using the new features > (mainly the new > > oop model). > > > > However, I tried running a few PHP applications but they simply did not > work > > properly in PHP5. It's not a big problem for me since I'm going to build > my > > new project from scratch and have decided that, even if it > isn't released > > yet, I'm going for PHP5 due to the new features in it. > > > > One thing that does disturb me a bit though is that very little is to be > > found about if the recommendation not to use Apache2 with PHP4 > still seems > > to apply for PHP5 as well. It's a bit confusing since Apache2 > been stable > > for a long time. I am expecting that the issues not recommending it for > PHP4 > > will be solved for PHP5. > > > > /Thomas > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
Don't expect it to be solved next few days.. There are some wierd problems I think... Kinda like you don't really know what could cause them or something... -- // DvDmanDT MSN: dvdmandt¤hotmail.com Mail: dvdmandt¤telia.com "Thomas Svenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi Chris, > > Chris TenHarmsel wrote: > > Well, we're interested in stability. I figured since php4 had > > been out for a while in "stable" form, it would be more stable > > than php5. Is this the case, or is there a good feeling that > > php5 will be considered "stable" in the next couple months? > > I've been playing around with PHP5 since before beta 2 and haven't stumbled > on any problems so far when coding using the new features (mainly the new > oop model). > > However, I tried running a few PHP applications but they simply did not work > properly in PHP5. It's not a big problem for me since I'm going to build my > new project from scratch and have decided that, even if it isn't released > yet, I'm going for PHP5 due to the new features in it. > > One thing that does disturb me a bit though is that very little is to be > found about if the recommendation not to use Apache2 with PHP4 still seems > to apply for PHP5 as well. It's a bit confusing since Apache2 been stable > for a long time. I am expecting that the issues not recommending it for PHP4 > will be solved for PHP5. > > /Thomas -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
Hi Chris, Chris TenHarmsel wrote: > Well, we're interested in stability. I figured since php4 had > been out for a while in "stable" form, it would be more stable > than php5. Is this the case, or is there a good feeling that > php5 will be considered "stable" in the next couple months? I've been playing around with PHP5 since before beta 2 and haven't stumbled on any problems so far when coding using the new features (mainly the new oop model). However, I tried running a few PHP applications but they simply did not work properly in PHP5. It's not a big problem for me since I'm going to build my new project from scratch and have decided that, even if it isn't released yet, I'm going for PHP5 due to the new features in it. One thing that does disturb me a bit though is that very little is to be found about if the recommendation not to use Apache2 with PHP4 still seems to apply for PHP5 as well. It's a bit confusing since Apache2 been stable for a long time. I am expecting that the issues not recommending it for PHP4 will be solved for PHP5. /Thomas -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
Dvdmandt wrote: > What's the real difference.. We are talking something like 1-2 months I > think... Although, there was thoughts about releasing 5.0 in 2002 as well > IIRC.. > Well, we're interested in stability. I figured since php4 had been out for a while in "stable" form, it would be more stable than php5. Is this the case, or is there a good feeling that php5 will be considered "stable" in the next couple months? -Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
What's the real difference.. We are talking something like 1-2 months I think... Although, there was thoughts about releasing 5.0 in 2002 as well IIRC.. -- // DvDmanDT MSN: dvdmandt¤hotmail.com Mail: dvdmandt¤telia.com "Chris Tenharmsel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dvdmandt wrote: > > > Try beta3, or rc1-dev from snaps.php.net, if it works there, it'll work in > > 5.0, currently, it's bugfix only for RC1, and RC1 isn't very far from the > > release, so I really don't think anyting would get changed... Also, seems > > to me like objects and references are kinda the highest priority in 5.0 > > (along with XML support), but that's only my impression.. > > > > To view the history.. Check cvs, and read the NEWS file... > > > > Is there some current timeline for php5 though? like approximate release > date, release month, anything? We're evaluating whether or not we want to > start a new project using PHP5 or PHP4, and I'd really like to make a push > for PHP5. > > -Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
Dvdmandt wrote: > Try beta3, or rc1-dev from snaps.php.net, if it works there, it'll work in > 5.0, currently, it's bugfix only for RC1, and RC1 isn't very far from the > release, so I really don't think anyting would get changed... Also, seems > to me like objects and references are kinda the highest priority in 5.0 > (along with XML support), but that's only my impression.. > > To view the history.. Check cvs, and read the NEWS file... > Is there some current timeline for php5 though? like approximate release date, release month, anything? We're evaluating whether or not we want to start a new project using PHP5 or PHP4, and I'd really like to make a push for PHP5. -Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Ver 5.0 Questions ...
Try beta3, or rc1-dev from snaps.php.net, if it works there, it'll work in 5.0, currently, it's bugfix only for RC1, and RC1 isn't very far from the release, so I really don't think anyting would get changed... Also, seems to me like objects and references are kinda the highest priority in 5.0 (along with XML support), but that's only my impression.. To view the history.. Check cvs, and read the NEWS file... -- // DvDmanDT MSN: dvdmandt¤hotmail.com Mail: dvdmandt¤telia.com "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I was wondering if there is a timeline for version 5, if so where can I > find it ... > > Also I am developing an application that I pass a lot of objects by > reference, will that cause problems in version 5 ? > > As far as I can see in the http://www.php.net/zend-engine-2.php there is > nothing there to suggest that this will be a problem > > thanks -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
