Re: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-20 Thread Angelo Zanetti
thanks to everyone for the answers, much appreciated and if there are 
more I'd gladly like to hear those views/opinions


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Re: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Jochem Maas
Angelo Zanetti wrote:
 HI all.
 
 I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
 problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.
 
 Basically we are interested to know if there are any problems/security
 issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other issues running a
 production site (big live site) on a windows server.

how big is big? serverfarm big? if it is that big then you have probably already
missed the boat - stability, security, performance  scalability should be
with in the realm of the known if your site is that high traffic. jmho.

 
 Im assuming it will be running IIS.

from memory I recall Zend going into partnership with M$ and they
were/are pushing the use of the FastCGI php SAPI in conjunction with IIS.

from what I gather this combo is stable and fast - you'd think Zend+M$ would 
have
enough resources to make it work ... I have no experience (and don't intend
to get any ;-) with this setup but you can STW for more info on this and maybe
come to some kind of useful conclusion.

 
 The site is very important and any issues will hamper the functionality
 and accessibility of the site.

I have N*100 customers that say exactly the same thing about their own sites ;-)

 
 All your responses will be greatly appreciated.
 
 TIA
 Angelo

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Re: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Tijnema !

On 3/19/07, Angelo Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

HI all.

I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.

Basically we are interested to know if there are any problems/security
issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other issues running a
production site (big live site) on a windows server.

Im assuming it will be running IIS.

The site is very important and any issues will hamper the functionality
and accessibility of the site.

All your responses will be greatly appreciated.

TIA
Angelo
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I was running PHP under windows, but not with IIS, i used Apache.
After some time i thought i might wanted to try linux, and since that
i didn't even thought about getting back. First of all is that it is a
lot more secure, a lot of scripts don't do any harm on a normal
configured linux server, while they do as running on a microsoft
server, because php has more rights in windows (not to mention my
server, running PHP as root...) and stability is a lot better, my
linux server can handle more connections at the same time
(multitasking is better on linux) and i noted the difference in RAM
usage. On the other side i don't see any reason why to run windows on
it. The most important reasion was that microsoft could execute ASP
code, but since the coming of mono (mono-project.org), it is also
possible to use ASP code on a linux server running apache.

If you have things that require windows, go for a windows server, if
not, go for LAMP. maybe with perl, cgi, and asp support.

Tijnema




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RE: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Edward Kay
 On 3/19/07, Angelo Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  HI all.
 
  I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
  problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.
 
  Basically we are interested to know if there are any problems/security
  issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other issues running a
  production site (big live site) on a windows server.
 
  Im assuming it will be running IIS.
 
  The site is very important and any issues will hamper the functionality
  and accessibility of the site.
 
  All your responses will be greatly appreciated.
 
  TIA
  Angelo
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From my experience, it seems many more people in the web community run PHP
under Linux than Windows. Therefore, if, no, when you get stuck with
something, the chances of you finding the answer quickly would be much
higher with Linux.

Edward

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Re: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Tijnema !

On 3/19/07, Edward Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3/19/07, Angelo Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  HI all.
 
  I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
  problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.
 
  Basically we are interested to know if there are any problems/security
  issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other issues running a
  production site (big live site) on a windows server.
 
  Im assuming it will be running IIS.
 
  The site is very important and any issues will hamper the functionality
  and accessibility of the site.
 
  All your responses will be greatly appreciated.
 
  TIA
  Angelo
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From my experience, it seems many more people in the web community run PHP
under Linux than Windows. Therefore, if, no, when you get stuck with
something, the chances of you finding the answer quickly would be much
higher with Linux.

Edward


That's not totally true, as PHP doesn't differ a lot if running on
linux/windows. And even users that run PHP on linux know sometimes
answers for people running PHP on windows...

Tijnema.


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RE: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Brad Fuller
 Im assuming it will be running IIS.

(shudder)

 The site is very important and any issues will hamper the functionality
 and accessibility of the site.

LOL

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RE: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Edward Kay
 On 3/19/07, Edward Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 3/19/07, Angelo Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HI all.
   
I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.
   
Basically we are interested to know if there are any
 problems/security
issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other
 issues running a
production site (big live site) on a windows server.
   
Im assuming it will be running IIS.
   
The site is very important and any issues will hamper the
 functionality
and accessibility of the site.
   
All your responses will be greatly appreciated.
   
TIA
Angelo
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  From my experience, it seems many more people in the web
 community run PHP
  under Linux than Windows. Therefore, if, no, when you get stuck with
  something, the chances of you finding the answer quickly would be much
  higher with Linux.
 
  Edward
 
 That's not totally true, as PHP doesn't differ a lot if running on
 linux/windows. And even users that run PHP on linux know sometimes
 answers for people running PHP on windows...

 Tijnema.

You're right, PHP scripting doesn't differ that much between operating
systems and the few inconsistencies are generally known from both sides.

From my interpretation of the OP though, the question is not so much about
PHP coding but rather the web server setup. I think that there is generally
more support on the web for running web servers on Linux than Windows, and
this is especially true when using PHP.

Edward

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Re: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, March 19, 2007 3:39 am, Angelo Zanetti wrote:
 I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
 problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.

Let me put it this way:
Core PHP will not make Windows any less stable than it already is.

That means that if you have one of the 0.01% of Windows SysAdmins who
actually is competent, then you should be fine.

If not, then PHP isn't going to help matters.

If you start adding in some seldom-used DLL extensions...  No
promises. :-)

Check with people who actually USE PHP on Windows with heavy volume,
if you can find any...

Is there still a php-windows@ list from php.net?

 Basically we are interested to know if there are any problems/security
 issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other issues running
 a
 production site (big live site) on a windows server.

 Im assuming it will be running IIS.

You really shouldn't, as Apache on Windows is a good way to transition
to a real server. :-)

Disclosure:
I hate MS and have a severe bias.

YMMV

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Re: [PHP] Running PHP on a windows server-your views

2007-03-19 Thread Bruce Cowin
Yes, there is a PHP-WIN list.  Much less volumn than this list.

We run PHP on Windows using IIS.  So far haven't had any problems.  But we've 
been using it on intranet only sites and not very intensive or complicated.



Regards,

Bruce

 Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2007 11:28:14 a.m. 
On Mon, March 19, 2007 3:39 am, Angelo Zanetti wrote:
 I would like some honest answers and if you have any experience with
 problems or no problems running PHP on a windows server.

Let me put it this way:
Core PHP will not make Windows any less stable than it already is.

That means that if you have one of the 0.01% of Windows SysAdmins who
actually is competent, then you should be fine.

If not, then PHP isn't going to help matters.

If you start adding in some seldom-used DLL extensions...  No
promises. :-)

Check with people who actually USE PHP on Windows with heavy volume,
if you can find any...

Is there still a php-windows@ list from php.net?

 Basically we are interested to know if there are any problems/security
 issues/stability issues/performance issues or any other issues running
 a
 production site (big live site) on a windows server.

 Im assuming it will be running IIS.

You really shouldn't, as Apache on Windows is a good way to transition
to a real server. :-)

Disclosure:
I hate MS and have a severe bias.

YMMV

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