RE: [PHP] Spammers
agreed!!! -Original Message- From: Justin Patrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Spammers John Nichel wrote: > Steve Douville wrote: > >> So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in >> a few >> seconds. No big deal... > > > Set up a filter. > Everyone says use a filter, but you need to think of the resource issue as well. There are at least 2 (probably more) servers which have to process this mail. In addition, extra bandwidth is used. This may not seem like much, but it's still a complete waste of resources. -- paperCrane -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
Justin Patrin wrote: John Nichel wrote: Set up a filter. Everyone says use a filter, but you need to think of the resource issue as well. There are at least 2 (probably more) servers which have to process this mail. In addition, extra bandwidth is used. This may not seem like much, but it's still a complete waste of resources. Nobody's debating that it need's to be stopped, but until it is -- John C. Nichel KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 01:16, Justin Patrin wrote: > IMHO, the php list admins should just > delete them Agree. > but none of them EVER respond to requests for this. Not true, it's just that it often takes someone several days to weeks to respond! -- Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Ad astra per aspera. [To the stars by aspiration.] */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
"This may not seem like much, but it's still a complete waste of resources." So is this thread... ;-) Really, though, the spam problem as a WHOLE is a resource waster. On top of the 100+ spam messages I get a day, getting these two IF I post a message really isn't wasting that much resource. I mean, really, I don't read all of the posts from this list, either, but the mail server still has to process them all. The only reasonable way to solve this is for the admins to delete the addresses. Maybe if they got as many emails as this thread has produced, perhaps they would be prompted to do something about it. Oh, look, two more to delete. (I knew the risk, believe me...) ;-) - Original Message - From: "Justin Patrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Spammers > John Nichel wrote: > > > Steve Douville wrote: > > > >> So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in > >> a few > >> seconds. No big deal... > > > > > > Set up a filter. > > > > Everyone says use a filter, but you need to think of the resource issue > as well. There are at least 2 (probably more) servers which have to > process this mail. In addition, extra bandwidth is used. This may not > seem like much, but it's still a complete waste of resources. > > -- > paperCrane > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
Can no one take a joke... it would be rather stupid to send an email out to a list if I was preparing to hack a system, especially with my company name in the email. To repeat what I've said 3 times: 'I made note earlier that I was joking about hacking the server... I'm a programmer not a hacker. I am however not a fan of spam and will report it when I can.' On Jun 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, John Nichel wrote: The Digital E wrote: Last resort If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. H...nice thing to put your name on record for. 'No need for a trial your honor...we have his email to the php mailing lists right here...' -- John C. Nichel KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Eric Symbouras thedigitale.com 347.613.9934 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
John Nichel wrote: Steve Douville wrote: So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in a few seconds. No big deal... Set up a filter. Everyone says use a filter, but you need to think of the resource issue as well. There are at least 2 (probably more) servers which have to process this mail. In addition, extra bandwidth is used. This may not seem like much, but it's still a complete waste of resources. -- paperCrane -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
Steve Douville wrote: So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in a few seconds. No big deal... Set up a filter. -- John C. Nichel KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
The Digital E wrote: Last resort If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. H...nice thing to put your name on record for. 'No need for a trial your honor...we have his email to the php mailing lists right here...' -- John C. Nichel KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
Steve Douville wrote: Those messages are only broadcast if you happen to send a message to the board cause people have autoresponders set. Given that there are only two and now one bad address returning a message, I find it fairly easy to just hit the delete button three times. I don't think this qualifies as spam. It's not spam per-se, but these addresses obviously should not be on the list. AND If you try to respond, the mailboxes are full, so there's no way to contact the users themselves. I see it as spam because it's wasting lots of bandwidth. Just think of the number of messages on this boardtimes 3. Going out all over the place. That's a lot of wasted bandwidth and "deleting time". IMHO, the php list admins should just delete them, but none of them EVER respond to requests for this. So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in a few seconds. No big deal... - Original Message - From: "The Digital E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: [PHP] Spammers Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've reported the spammers to their ISP ipowerweb.com I've sent them the headers and traceroute results and their abuse team is investigating, it would be more powerful if a bunch of people complained about it, so if you have a minute and are sick of the garbage from suisse bank and information desk, send a quick email to the ISP. They should be shut down. Last resort If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- paperCrane -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
* Thus wrote The Digital E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've > reported the spammers to their ISP ipowerweb.com > I've sent them the headers and traceroute results and their abuse team > is investigating, it would be more powerful if a bunch of people > complained about it, so if you have a minute and are sick of the > garbage from suisse bank and information desk, send a quick email to > the ISP. They should be shut down. I have sent a message to them as well, got a investigating response and nothing has happened. ipowerweb seems to be a popular place for people to spam from. Even though they do have a no-spam policy, they seem to look the other way when it does occur. Curt -- "I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure." -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
I made note earlier that I was joking about hacking the server... I'm a programmer not a hacker. I am however not a fan of spam and will report it when I can. On Jun 1, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Tyler Replogle wrote: yeah same thing for me, but i don't really care, its no reason to start hacker the server. From: "Steve Douville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Steve Douville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PHP] Spammers Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 11:57:33 -0400 Those messages are only broadcast if you happen to send a message to the board cause people have autoresponders set. Given that there are only two and now one bad address returning a message, I find it fairly easy to just hit the delete button three times. I don't think this qualifies as spam. So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in a few seconds. No big deal... - Original Message - From: "The Digital E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: [PHP] Spammers > Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've > reported the spammers to their ISP ipowerweb.com > I've sent them the headers and traceroute results and their abuse team > is investigating, it would be more powerful if a bunch of people > complained about it, so if you have a minute and are sick of the > garbage from suisse bank and information desk, send a quick email to > the ISP. They should be shut down. > > Last resort > If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out > their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Eric Symbouras thedigitale.com 347.613.9934 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
yeah same thing for me, but i don't really care, its no reason to start hacker the server. From: "Steve Douville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Steve Douville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PHP] Spammers Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 11:57:33 -0400 Those messages are only broadcast if you happen to send a message to the board cause people have autoresponders set. Given that there are only two and now one bad address returning a message, I find it fairly easy to just hit the delete button three times. I don't think this qualifies as spam. So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in a few seconds. No big deal... - Original Message - From: "The Digital E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: [PHP] Spammers > Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've > reported the spammers to their ISP ipowerweb.com > I've sent them the headers and traceroute results and their abuse team > is investigating, it would be more powerful if a bunch of people > complained about it, so if you have a minute and are sick of the > garbage from suisse bank and information desk, send a quick email to > the ISP. They should be shut down. > > Last resort > If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out > their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
Well yeah, I could, but I'm rather adept at deleting the REAL spam I get so it's not a bother. lol I use a combination of filters and outlook message rules to catch most of it, so no worries. I'm used to it now. (And yet again, another couple to delete...) - Original Message - From: "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Douville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Spammers [snip] Those messages are only broadcast if you happen to send a message to the board cause people have autoresponders set. Given that there are only two and now one bad address returning a message, I find it fairly easy to just hit the delete button three times. I don't think this qualifies as spam. [/snip] You can set up a rule in outlook or send them to /dev/null or -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Spammers
[snip] Those messages are only broadcast if you happen to send a message to the board cause people have autoresponders set. Given that there are only two and now one bad address returning a message, I find it fairly easy to just hit the delete button three times. I don't think this qualifies as spam. [/snip] You can set up a rule in outlook or send them to /dev/null or -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
Those messages are only broadcast if you happen to send a message to the board cause people have autoresponders set. Given that there are only two and now one bad address returning a message, I find it fairly easy to just hit the delete button three times. I don't think this qualifies as spam. So, as I hit the send button, I know I'll have 3 messages to delete in a few seconds. No big deal... - Original Message - From: "The Digital E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Php-General-Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: [PHP] Spammers > Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've > reported the spammers to their ISP ipowerweb.com > I've sent them the headers and traceroute results and their abuse team > is investigating, it would be more powerful if a bunch of people > complained about it, so if you have a minute and are sick of the > garbage from suisse bank and information desk, send a quick email to > the ISP. They should be shut down. > > Last resort > If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out > their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammers
> > [snip] > > Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've > reported the spammers > [/snip] > Which "spammers" are you referring too? I believe he made reference to them in his original post here: > so if you have a minute and are sick of the garbage from suisse bank and > information desk, Oftentimes, when I send a message to the PHP list, I get an auto-response from both of the above. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Spammers
[snip] Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've reported the spammers [/snip] Which "spammers" are you referring too? [snip] Last resort If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. [/snip] And now we would all have your e-mail on file concerning a DOS attack. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Spammers
Hey everyone, don't know about you, but I'm sick of spam and so I've reported the spammers to their ISP ipowerweb.com I've sent them the headers and traceroute results and their abuse team is investigating, it would be more powerful if a bunch of people complained about it, so if you have a minute and are sick of the garbage from suisse bank and information desk, send a quick email to the ISP. They should be shut down. Last resort If this doesn't work, I have a few buddies that would love to try out their DOS attack skills, but I'd rather deal with it legally. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
