Re: [PHP] Standalone PHP Client?

2003-06-24 Thread Craig
Have a look here, this may help:

http://www.triplehash.com/content.php?id=26

Regards,

Craig


Galen P. Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, having a solid product that people can look at offline has been a
 major selling point in the past. The customers we cater to appreciate a
 physical product. We could give them HTML that sends them online, but
 we could just as easily give them a card with an URL on it and not
 waste CD media for a 1K shortcut file. I can't confess to completely
 understand these people who really want a local product for something
 that must be uploaded to the internet in the end and is dependent on
 our servers to handle checkout and order processing - it's just a
 psychological thing, I guess.

 I'm trying to investigate how hard it would be to get a demo product on
 a CD that basically goes through an installer process and installs some
 back end PHP/MySQL stuff so a demo can be run locally. What exactly
 would be involved in compiling a PHP client with the source myself -
 are there any existing products along these lines? It probably wouldn't
 be practical to develop a whole project our selves, but if there was
 something already out there, we might use it.

 -Galen

 On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Michael A Smith wrote:

  Why not have them all do that? HTML that re-directs? Other than taking
  the source, compiling yourself, or taking the pre-compiled windows
  binaries and including them, that's the only way.
 
  -Michael
  On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 09:57, Galen P. Zink wrote:
  I work for a small networking company. We're working on a piece of
  software that will be run server-side with PHP and MySQL. It allows
  the
  user to develop an online store and handles all the complex shopping
  cart stuff with ease. It is a port of an originally client-side
  application. We would like to be able to hand out demo discs that do
  not require the internet to try it out - having a standalone try-out
  version is a big source of customers.
 
  Is there any kind of standalone PHP/MySQL engine that could be
  reasonably installed from a CD and run on most Windows machines? If
  there was some method to compile the PHP into a binary or otherwise
  protect it, it would be really good because our company would not be
  too excited about handing out the near-complete source to our product
  on all the demo discs. It would be nice if there was support for
  non-Windows OSes, but Windows is by far the majority in market share
  and the other OSes could easily just pop into an HTML document that
  directs them to our online version.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Galen P. Zink
 
 




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[PHP] Standalone PHP Client?

2003-06-20 Thread Galen P. Zink
I work for a small networking company. We're working on a piece of 
software that will be run server-side with PHP and MySQL. It allows the 
user to develop an online store and handles all the complex shopping 
cart stuff with ease. It is a port of an originally client-side 
application. We would like to be able to hand out demo discs that do 
not require the internet to try it out - having a standalone try-out 
version is a big source of customers.

Is there any kind of standalone PHP/MySQL engine that could be 
reasonably installed from a CD and run on most Windows machines? If 
there was some method to compile the PHP into a binary or otherwise 
protect it, it would be really good because our company would not be 
too excited about handing out the near-complete source to our product 
on all the demo discs. It would be nice if there was support for 
non-Windows OSes, but Windows is by far the majority in market share 
and the other OSes could easily just pop into an HTML document that 
directs them to our online version.

Thanks,

Galen P. Zink

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Re: [PHP] Standalone PHP Client?

2003-06-20 Thread Galen P. Zink
Well, having a solid product that people can look at offline has been a 
major selling point in the past. The customers we cater to appreciate a 
physical product. We could give them HTML that sends them online, but 
we could just as easily give them a card with an URL on it and not 
waste CD media for a 1K shortcut file. I can't confess to completely 
understand these people who really want a local product for something 
that must be uploaded to the internet in the end and is dependent on 
our servers to handle checkout and order processing - it's just a 
psychological thing, I guess.

I'm trying to investigate how hard it would be to get a demo product on 
a CD that basically goes through an installer process and installs some 
back end PHP/MySQL stuff so a demo can be run locally. What exactly 
would be involved in compiling a PHP client with the source myself - 
are there any existing products along these lines? It probably wouldn't 
be practical to develop a whole project our selves, but if there was 
something already out there, we might use it.

-Galen

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Michael A Smith wrote:

Why not have them all do that? HTML that re-directs? Other than taking
the source, compiling yourself, or taking the pre-compiled windows
binaries and including them, that's the only way.
-Michael
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 09:57, Galen P. Zink wrote:
I work for a small networking company. We're working on a piece of
software that will be run server-side with PHP and MySQL. It allows 
the
user to develop an online store and handles all the complex shopping
cart stuff with ease. It is a port of an originally client-side
application. We would like to be able to hand out demo discs that do
not require the internet to try it out - having a standalone try-out
version is a big source of customers.

Is there any kind of standalone PHP/MySQL engine that could be
reasonably installed from a CD and run on most Windows machines? If
there was some method to compile the PHP into a binary or otherwise
protect it, it would be really good because our company would not be
too excited about handing out the near-complete source to our product
on all the demo discs. It would be nice if there was support for
non-Windows OSes, but Windows is by far the majority in market share
and the other OSes could easily just pop into an HTML document that
directs them to our online version.
Thanks,

Galen P. Zink




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Re: [PHP] Standalone PHP Client?

2003-06-20 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 13:57, Galen P. Zink wrote:
 I work for a small networking company. We're working on a piece of 
 software that will be run server-side with PHP and MySQL. It allows the 
 user to develop an online store and handles all the complex shopping 
 cart stuff with ease. It is a port of an originally client-side 
 application. We would like to be able to hand out demo discs that do 
 not require the internet to try it out - having a standalone try-out 
 version is a big source of customers.
 
 Is there any kind of standalone PHP/MySQL engine that could be 
 reasonably installed from a CD and run on most Windows machines? If 
 there was some method to compile the PHP into a binary or otherwise 
 protect it, it would be really good because our company would not be 
 too excited about handing out the near-complete source to our product 
 on all the demo discs. It would be nice if there was support for 
 non-Windows OSes, but Windows is by far the majority in market share 
 and the other OSes could easily just pop into an HTML document that 
 directs them to our online version.
 


How about demoing the client app and saying there is also an on-line
version...??


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RE: [PHP] Standalone PHP Client?

2003-06-20 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Is there any kind of standalone PHP/MySQL engine that could be 
reasonably installed from a CD and run on most Windows machines? 
[/snip]

Check out the PHP-GTK http://gtk.php.net/ . I am not sure if there is a
'portable' data source to go with it, but it sounds like what you'd want

Jay

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Re: [PHP] Standalone PHP Client?

2003-06-20 Thread Galen P. Zink
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Brian V Bonini wrote:

On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 13:57, Galen P. Zink wrote:
I work for a small networking company. We're working on a piece of
software that will be run server-side with PHP and MySQL. It allows 
the
user to develop an online store and handles all the complex shopping
cart stuff with ease. It is a port of an originally client-side
application. We would like to be able to hand out demo discs that do
not require the internet to try it out - having a standalone try-out
version is a big source of customers.

Is there any kind of standalone PHP/MySQL engine that could be
reasonably installed from a CD and run on most Windows machines? If
there was some method to compile the PHP into a binary or otherwise
protect it, it would be really good because our company would not be
too excited about handing out the near-complete source to our product
on all the demo discs. It would be nice if there was support for
non-Windows OSes, but Windows is by far the majority in market share
and the other OSes could easily just pop into an HTML document that
directs them to our online version.


How about demoing the client app and saying there is also an on-line
version...??

Well, I wish that it was that easy, but although there are a lot of 
loyal users to our client version, it has *major* flaws. We're 
basically taking the existing functionality and wrapping it into a 
similar but correct GUI and fixing so many bugs and changing the 
interface at least enough to confuse the user. Also, we plan to 
eliminate the client side version for new users once the server side 
version is up. So basically, we can't.

-Galen

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