[PHP] Stupid Question Alert - part 2
Thanks for everyone's comments. If I understand what you are saying it should be possible to fill the content of a layer by issuing some sort of server include command.. (?) So, for example, rather than have a something that looks like this: div id=haiti style=position:absolute; left:752px; top:321px; width:166px; height:162px; z-index:14; visibility: hidden table width=166 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 tr td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_11.gif width=81 height=55/td td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_12.gif width=85 height=55/td /tr tr td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_14.gif width=81 height=53/td td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_15.gif width=85 height=53/td /tr tr td img src=Atlas/haiti_17.gif width=81 height=55/td td img src=Atlas/haiti_18.gif width=85 height=55/td /tr /table /div It should be possible to have some code that gives the layer position but rather than then having all the other code describing the layer contents, have some sort of php command that says 'get the contents from file xxx.php'. If this is the case what should I be learning about to make this happen? Thanks again, Tim (standing on the shoulders of giants) --- Your question is not stupid - it's just uninformed, and that's easily understandable if you never used PHP. The concept is dynamically creating the page SERVER-SIDE. That is, use some databases or some nifty code to dynamically build a page using specific parameters. Unforunately for you, this means that all the fun ends on the server side. Once PHP ends its job, Apache takes over and serves the content generated by PHP as it would serve any regular file. What you actually pass to the client is dead information - it's not dynamic unless you echo some JavaScript code or something similar from PHP (which is the same as writing the respective code in a regular file, unless you create some custom parameters in JavaScript based on some other parameters you pass to PHP). Hope my explanation makes sense... ;-) Bogdan tim at 10Kv wrote: Hi, first of all apologise to the list this is a very basic question for you I¹m sure. I have tried to find an answer on the web but the problem is knowing HOW to ask the question and I hoping you can provide me with a starting point. Anyway.. I design a lot of graphic intensive pages which rely heavily on layers that contain images, mouseovers and image swaps. The trouble is, when there are more than a couple of these layers on a page the code gets long and over complicated. For example, if I have a page which on one side contains an image map with 5 clickable points that shows one of 5 possible layers on the other side of the page (each with different content) this is automatically a page with lots of code which is slow to load especially if the page already has a layer based navigation bar! My question is: is there a way to use a language like php to make this process easier? For example populate the layers from a different file rather than have all the code on the same page and perhaps slim the page down a little or is this missing the point of what a language like php is about. Thanks for your help and my apologies if this is the worst question of the week. Tim Rogers -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] ... [PHP] Stupid question alert
Thanks for everyone's comments. If I understand what you are saying it should be possible to fill the content of a layer by issuing some sort of server include command.. (?) So, for example, rather than have a something that looks like this: div id=haiti style=position:absolute; left:752px; top:321px; width:166px; height:162px; z-index:14; visibility: hidden table width=166 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 tr td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_11.gif width=81 height=55/td td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_12.gif width=85 height=55/td /tr tr td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_14.gif width=81 height=53/td td img src=Atlas/images/photolayer_15.gif width=85 height=53/td /tr tr td img src=Atlas/haiti_17.gif width=81 height=55/td td img src=Atlas/haiti_18.gif width=85 height=55/td /tr /table /div It should be possible to have some code that gives the layer position but rather than then having all the other code describing the layer contents, have some sort of php command that says 'get the contents from file xxx.php'. If this is the case what should I be learning about to make this happen? Thanks again, Tim (standing on the shoulders of giants) Your question is not stupid - it's just uninformed, and that's easily understandable if you never used PHP. The concept is dynamically creating the page SERVER-SIDE. That is, use some databases or some nifty code to dynamically build a page using specific parameters. Unforunately for you, this means that all the fun ends on the server side. Once PHP ends its job, Apache takes over and serves the content generated by PHP as it would serve any regular file. What you actually pass to the client is dead information - it's not dynamic unless you echo some JavaScript code or something similar from PHP (which is the same as writing the respective code in a regular file, unless you create some custom parameters in JavaScript based on some other parameters you pass to PHP). Hope my explanation makes sense... ;-) Bogdan tim at 10Kv wrote: Hi, first of all apologise to the list this is a very basic question for you I¹m sure. I have tried to find an answer on the web but the problem is knowing HOW to ask the question and I hoping you can provide me with a starting point. Anyway.. I design a lot of graphic intensive pages which rely heavily on layers that contain images, mouseovers and image swaps. The trouble is, when there are more than a couple of these layers on a page the code gets long and over complicated. For example, if I have a page which on one side contains an image map with 5 clickable points that shows one of 5 possible layers on the other side of the page (each with different content) this is automatically a page with lots of code which is slow to load especially if the page already has a layer based navigation bar! My question is: is there a way to use a language like php to make this process easier? For example populate the layers from a different file rather than have all the code on the same page and perhaps slim the page down a little or is this missing the point of what a language like php is about. Thanks for your help and my apologies if this is the worst question of the week. Tim Rogers -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Stupid question alert
Hi, first of all apologise to the list this is a very basic question for you I¹m sure. I have tried to find an answer on the web but the problem is knowing HOW to ask the question and I hoping you can provide me with a starting point. Anyway.. I design a lot of graphic intensive pages which rely heavily on layers that contain images, mouseovers and image swaps. The trouble is, when there are more than a couple of these layers on a page the code gets long and over complicated. For example, if I have a page which on one side contains an image map with 5 clickable points that shows one of 5 possible layers on the other side of the page (each with different content) this is automatically a page with lots of code which is slow to load especially if the page already has a layer based navigation bar! My question is: is there a way to use a language like php to make this process easier? For example populate the layers from a different file rather than have all the code on the same page and perhaps slim the page down a little or is this missing the point of what a language like php is about. Thanks for your help and my apologies if this is the worst question of the week. Tim Rogers
Re: [PHP] Stupid question alert
Your question is not stupid - it's just uninformed, and that's easily understandable if you never used PHP. The concept is dynamically creating the page SERVER-SIDE. That is, use some databases or some nifty code to dynamically build a page using specific parameters. Unforunately for you, this means that all the fun ends on the server side. Once PHP ends its job, Apache takes over and serves the content generated by PHP as it would serve any regular file. What you actually pass to the client is dead information - it's not dynamic unless you echo some JavaScript code or something similar from PHP (which is the same as writing the respective code in a regular file, unless you create some custom parameters in JavaScript based on some other parameters you pass to PHP). Hope my explanation makes sense... ;-) Bogdan tim at 10Kv wrote: Hi, first of all apologise to the list this is a very basic question for you I¹m sure. I have tried to find an answer on the web but the problem is knowing HOW to ask the question and I hoping you can provide me with a starting point. Anyway.. I design a lot of graphic intensive pages which rely heavily on layers that contain images, mouseovers and image swaps. The trouble is, when there are more than a couple of these layers on a page the code gets long and over complicated. For example, if I have a page which on one side contains an image map with 5 clickable points that shows one of 5 possible layers on the other side of the page (each with different content) this is automatically a page with lots of code which is slow to load especially if the page already has a layer based navigation bar! My question is: is there a way to use a language like php to make this process easier? For example populate the layers from a different file rather than have all the code on the same page and perhaps slim the page down a little or is this missing the point of what a language like php is about. Thanks for your help and my apologies if this is the worst question of the week. Tim Rogers -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(Inadvertedly only sent to me) ---BeginMessage--- Object and events that occur in the browser window are controlled by client-side scripts (JavaScript, VB). Objects and events that occur on the server are controlled by server-side scripts (PHP, ASP, etc.) Since PHP is a server-side scripting language it can not react to client-side events (onClick, onMouseOver, etc.) or access client-side objects (window, document, etc.). So it's impossible to get PHP (or any other server-side scripting language) to reduce the amount of code needed for client-side interactions (your images swaps and mouseovers). what u can do is put all the scripts in an external .js file and reduce the size of the file by removing white spaces (spaces, tabs, line feeds/carriage returns). i'm not sure if this would significantly reduce ur file size but it's an option. CJ - Original Message - From: Bogdan Stancescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: php.general To: tim at 10Kv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Stupid question alert Your question is not stupid - it's just uninformed, and that's easily understandable if you never used PHP. The concept is dynamically creating the page SERVER-SIDE. That is, use some databases or some nifty code to dynamically build a page using specific parameters. Unforunately for you, this means that all the fun ends on the server side. Once PHP ends its job, Apache takes over and serves the content generated by PHP as it would serve any regular file. What you actually pass to the client is dead information - it's not dynamic unless you echo some JavaScript code or something similar from PHP (which is the same as writing the respective code in a regular file, unless you create some custom parameters in JavaScript based on some other parameters you pass to PHP). Hope my explanation makes sense... ;-) Bogdan tim at 10Kv wrote: Hi, first of all apologise to the list this is a very basic question for you I¹m sure. I have tried to find an answer on the web but the problem is knowing HOW to ask the question and I hoping you can provide me with a starting point. Anyway.. I design a lot of graphic intensive pages which rely heavily on layers that contain images, mouseovers and image swaps. The trouble is, when there are more than a couple of these layers on a page the code gets long and over complicated. For example, if I have a page which on one side contains an image map with 5 clickable points that shows one of 5 possible layers on the other side of the page (each with different content) this is automatically a page with lots of code which is slow to load especially if the page already has a layer based navigation bar! My question is: is there a way to use a language like php to make this process easier? For example populate the layers from a different file rather than have all the code on the same page and perhaps slim the page down a little or is this missing the point of what a language like php is about. Thanks for your help and my apologies if this is the worst question of the week. Tim Rogers ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
