[PHP] Symfony?
Hi gang: Who uses Symfony? Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony?
Hi, I'm using Symfony 1.4 Templating Componenthttp://web.archive.org/web/20101004223616/http://components.symfony-project.org/templating/documentation Saludos, José Nobile On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Who uses Symfony? Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony?
Bastien Koert On 2013-05-20, at 12:40 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Who uses Symfony? Cheers, tedd _ I do. It's not my preferred framework. It's very powerful, but very complex and has a ton of yaml config files for the app. The learning curve is steep. What's the question? Bastien -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony?
Drupal 8 is being built using Symfony, which means I have to learn it. Ken At 12:44 PM 5/20/2013, Bastien wrote: Bastien Koert On 2013-05-20, at 12:40 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Who uses Symfony? Cheers, tedd _ I do. It's not my preferred framework. It's very powerful, but very complex and has a ton of yaml config files for the app. The learning curve is steep. What's the question? Bastien -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
What is difference between Zend Framwork and other frameworks like CakePHP? I'm trying to develop a sample blog for educational purposes in Zend Framwork, but some times I feel that I'm learning a new language or a new programming paradigm. On 7/21/07, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in January I was looking for a framework for a project that ended up being canceled anyway. :-) I considered both CakePHP and Symfony, and had decided on CakePHP for a very simple reason: It was smaller. It was pure PHP while Symfony relied on Propel which in turn used YAML syntax to define its object model, which it then compiled to XML, which in turn was used to generate both the SQL tables and the base classes in PHP. I saw no reason to learn Yet Another Markup Language (I can't take seriously any markup system that acknowledges that it serves no useful purpose) and install/load/use a multi-meg system when Cake was far smaller, built its classes off of the SQL directly, and didn't require me to learn still more obscure syntax. Of course, I hate Rails-style code-generation frameworks anyway, so I'm kinda glad I never actually built that project. :-) YMMV. On Friday 20 July 2007, Steve Finkelstein wrote: All, I'm terribly sorry if this is a redundant inquiry. I'm a rather inexperienced developer who's catching on quickly, and looking for a framework to build out a project I've been assigned. I'm more of a read a book and try things out type of learner. My question to those with more experience, what exactly is the difference between CakePHP and Symfony? I'm looking into both of them for a potential framework to make robust and scalable code. They both seem to try to obtain the same goals with their project, however Symfony has text written about it, etc. Anyway, thank you for any insight. - sf -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
On 7/20/07, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw no reason to learn Yet Another Markup Language (I can't take seriously any markup system that acknowledges that it serves no useful purpose) and YAML takes 5 minutes to learn. It's very useful for quickly adding test fixtures to Rails apps, sample data, and the like. It's a gazillion times lighter weight than XML and just as easy to use as JSON. Much like anything opensource, don't let the name scare you, YAML is good stuff. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
On 7/21/07, AmirBehzad Eslami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is difference between Zend Framwork and other frameworks like CakePHP? In a nutshell Zend Framework if bigger, heavier, and does more stuff. I find many parts of it look exactly like parts from the Mojavi MVC framework. Could be a coincidence I guess.. I'm trying to develop a sample blog for educational purposes in Zend Framwork, but some times I feel that I'm learning a new language or a new programming paradigm. It's a learning curve for sure, but once you have one MVC framework in your tool belt, you can pick up others easily. I started off using it for simple things like email address validation and sending HTML emails. You certainly don't have to use the whole thing to get some very good uses from it. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
Disclaimer: I have not used Zend Framework. What I am about to say is based on a blog entry by someone whose name I forget so I can't go track it down now. :-) CakePHP, Symfony, Drupal, etc. are full stack systems. That is, they provide an integrated structure and you match your development to that structure. That means doing things the system's way makes life quite straightforward, but going against the grain makes life quite difficult. Zend Framework, ezComponents, etc. are component systems. They're more of a collection of robust tools that you can put together your own way to build something without having a structure presented to you already. That means you're not bound by a given structure, but you also don't have a structure to fall back on. Both are appropriate in different situations. On Saturday 21 July 2007, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote: What is difference between Zend Framwork and other frameworks like CakePHP? I'm trying to develop a sample blog for educational purposes in Zend Framwork, but some times I feel that I'm learning a new language or a new programming paradigm. On 7/21/07, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in January I was looking for a framework for a project that ended up being canceled anyway. :-) I considered both CakePHP and Symfony, and had decided on CakePHP for a very simple reason: It was smaller. It was pure PHP while Symfony relied on Propel which in turn used YAML syntax to define its object model, which it then compiled to XML, which in turn was used to generate both the SQL tables and the base classes in PHP. I saw no reason to learn Yet Another Markup Language (I can't take seriously any markup system that acknowledges that it serves no useful purpose) and install/load/use a multi-meg system when Cake was far smaller, built its classes off of the SQL directly, and didn't require me to learn still more obscure syntax. Of course, I hate Rails-style code-generation frameworks anyway, so I'm kinda glad I never actually built that project. :-) YMMV. On Friday 20 July 2007, Steve Finkelstein wrote: All, I'm terribly sorry if this is a redundant inquiry. I'm a rather inexperienced developer who's catching on quickly, and looking for a framework to build out a project I've been assigned. I'm more of a read a book and try things out type of learner. My question to those with more experience, what exactly is the difference between CakePHP and Symfony? I'm looking into both of them for a potential framework to make robust and scalable code. They both seem to try to obtain the same goals with their project, however Symfony has text written about it, etc. Anyway, thank you for any insight. - sf -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
All, I'm terribly sorry if this is a redundant inquiry. I'm a rather inexperienced developer who's catching on quickly, and looking for a framework to build out a project I've been assigned. I'm more of a read a book and try things out type of learner. My question to those with more experience, what exactly is the difference between CakePHP and Symfony? I'm looking into both of them for a potential framework to make robust and scalable code. They both seem to try to obtain the same goals with their project, however Symfony has text written about it, etc. Anyway, thank you for any insight. - sf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
On Fri, July 20, 2007 10:01 am, Steve Finkelstein wrote: My question to those with more experience, what exactly is the difference between CakePHP and Symfony? I'm looking into both of them You may want to ask on a Cake list and a Symfony list. You'll get very biased answers, but at least you'll be asking a whole lot of people who actually use one or the other, instead of here, where you've asked a whole lot of people, only a tiny fraction of which have ever used either... PS Having more text written about Symfony may just mean they spent more money on Marketing. :-) -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Symfony versus CakePHP?
Back in January I was looking for a framework for a project that ended up being canceled anyway. :-) I considered both CakePHP and Symfony, and had decided on CakePHP for a very simple reason: It was smaller. It was pure PHP while Symfony relied on Propel which in turn used YAML syntax to define its object model, which it then compiled to XML, which in turn was used to generate both the SQL tables and the base classes in PHP. I saw no reason to learn Yet Another Markup Language (I can't take seriously any markup system that acknowledges that it serves no useful purpose) and install/load/use a multi-meg system when Cake was far smaller, built its classes off of the SQL directly, and didn't require me to learn still more obscure syntax. Of course, I hate Rails-style code-generation frameworks anyway, so I'm kinda glad I never actually built that project. :-) YMMV. On Friday 20 July 2007, Steve Finkelstein wrote: All, I'm terribly sorry if this is a redundant inquiry. I'm a rather inexperienced developer who's catching on quickly, and looking for a framework to build out a project I've been assigned. I'm more of a read a book and try things out type of learner. My question to those with more experience, what exactly is the difference between CakePHP and Symfony? I'm looking into both of them for a potential framework to make robust and scalable code. They both seem to try to obtain the same goals with their project, however Symfony has text written about it, etc. Anyway, thank you for any insight. - sf -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
