Re: [PHP] What is the purpose of sessions extension?

2005-11-14 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, November 11, 2005 6:59 pm, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
 GamblerZG wrote:
 What is the purpose of sessions extension?

 The reason I ask is because learning to deal with all its functions,
 ini
 options and quirks took me _much_ more time than writing pure-php
 replacement. (That is, without using  session_set_save_handler().)

 I realise that yours might be a special case, but for most situations
 I
 have only had to do session_start() and then simply used $_SESSION as
 if
 it were any other array with the simple difference that it persists
 across requests. When done with the session, use session_destroy() if
 you feel the need.

 I'm not sure how that could be harder than writing a pure-PHP
 replacement for the session extension...

The FIRST time one uses PHP session_start() et al, it tends to be a
lot of wading through and taking the wrong path and...

Once you figure out that you need:
?php
  session_start();
?
at the top of every page, and to just read/write session data with:
$_SESSION
it gets real easy.

But it ain't easy the first time.

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RE: [PHP] What is the purpose of sessions extension?

2005-11-14 Thread Carlo Razzeto
In my office we found it to be quite quick and easy to write a library
which uses PHP session extensions to store all session data into a
database (we work in a load balanced environment). We found this to be
the best method of dealing with this because we did not need to deal
with generating unique session id's or identifying when a session has
expired thus reducing code complexity and the DB load.

Carlo Razzeto
Programmer
Mortgage Information Services
Phone: (216) 514-1025 ex. 1212
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Subject: Re: [PHP] What is the purpose of sessions extension?

On Fri, November 11, 2005 6:59 pm, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
 GamblerZG wrote:
 What is the purpose of sessions extension?

 The reason I ask is because learning to deal with all its functions,
 ini
 options and quirks took me _much_ more time than writing pure-php
 replacement. (That is, without using  session_set_save_handler().)

 I realise that yours might be a special case, but for most situations
 I
 have only had to do session_start() and then simply used $_SESSION as
 if
 it were any other array with the simple difference that it persists
 across requests. When done with the session, use session_destroy() if
 you feel the need.

 I'm not sure how that could be harder than writing a pure-PHP
 replacement for the session extension...

The FIRST time one uses PHP session_start() et al, it tends to be a
lot of wading through and taking the wrong path and...

Once you figure out that you need:
?php
  session_start();
?
at the top of every page, and to just read/write session data with:
$_SESSION
it gets real easy.

But it ain't easy the first time.

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Re: [PHP] What is the purpose of sessions extension?

2005-11-14 Thread GamblerZG

Richard Lynch wrote:

But it ain't easy the first time.


If you're using DB to store session data, and trying to improve session 
security, than it ain't easy even the second time. Or the third. In 
fact, I gave up on that extension before it became easy. After that my 
session-related code shrunk by half. And I have 100% control over what 
happens and when it happens.


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Re: [PHP] What is the purpose of sessions extension?

2005-11-11 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene

GamblerZG wrote:

What is the purpose of sessions extension?

The reason I ask is because learning to deal with all its functions, ini
options and quirks took me _much_ more time than writing pure-php
replacement. (That is, without using  session_set_save_handler().)


I realise that yours might be a special case, but for most situations I 
have only had to do session_start() and then simply used $_SESSION as if 
it were any other array with the simple difference that it persists 
across requests. When done with the session, use session_destroy() if 
you feel the need.


I'm not sure how that could be harder than writing a pure-PHP 
replacement for the session extension...


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