[PHP] Zend Certification
Hello All, I've been thinking about taking the ZCE test. I want to, but I also want it to be current for as long as possible. Should I wait for it to be revised for PHP5, or are they even going to update it? I just don't want to end up taking it and then a few months later have it be outdated because it was for PHP4, and not PHP5. Thanks, -- Ray Hauge Programmer/Systems Administrator American Student Loan Services www.americanstudentloan.com 1.800.575.1099 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification
If taking the exam now makes different to you then go for it, actually I scheduled the exam 29 April bluntly just for the sake of salary increment heh On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:33 -0700, Ray Hauge wrote: Hello All, I've been thinking about taking the ZCE test. I want to, but I also want it to be current for as long as possible. Should I wait for it to be revised for PHP5, or are they even going to update it? I just don't want to end up taking it and then a few months later have it be outdated because it was for PHP4, and not PHP5. Thanks, -- Ray Hauge Programmer/Systems Administrator American Student Loan Services www.americanstudentloan.com 1.800.575.1099 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification
My info may be dated but AFAIK the exam is $200 - so what if you have to take one one month and another the next? That (assuming PHP5 was the same price) would still only be $400. I don't want to sound petty, but what's another $200 for a second certification - having both will give you that long_time_user status. On 4/7/06, Jad madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If taking the exam now makes different to you then go for it, actually I scheduled the exam 29 April bluntly just for the sake of salary increment heh On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:33 -0700, Ray Hauge wrote: Hello All, I've been thinking about taking the ZCE test. I want to, but I also want it to be current for as long as possible. Should I wait for it to be revised for PHP5, or are they even going to update it? I just don't want to end up taking it and then a few months later have it be outdated because it was for PHP4, and not PHP5. Thanks, -- Ray Hauge Programmer/Systems Administrator American Student Loan Services www.americanstudentloan.com 1.800.575.1099 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification
On Friday 07 April 2006 15:24, Rory Browne wrote: having both will give you that long_time_user status. Good point. Thanks :) -- Ray Hauge Programmer/Systems Administrator American Student Loan Services www.americanstudentloan.com 1.800.575.1099 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification
in my case the salary increment is more valuable than the $400 On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 00:24 +0200, Rory Browne wrote: My info may be dated but AFAIK the exam is $200 - so what if you have to take one one month and another the next? That (assuming PHP5 was the same price) would still only be $400. I don't want to sound petty, but what's another $200 for a second certification - having both will give you that long_time_user status. On 4/7/06, Jad madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If taking the exam now makes different to you then go for it, actually I scheduled the exam 29 April bluntly just for the sake of salary increment heh On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:33 -0700, Ray Hauge wrote: Hello All, I've been thinking about taking the ZCE test. I want to, but I also want it to be current for as long as possible. Should I wait for it to be revised for PHP5, or are they even going to update it? I just don't want to end up taking it and then a few months later have it be outdated because it was for PHP4, and not PHP5. Thanks, -- Ray Hauge Programmer/Systems Administrator American Student Loan Services www.americanstudentloan.com 1.800.575.1099 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification
if it's job related, you may even get your co. to pay for it. On 4/7/06, Jad madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in my case the salary increment is more valuable than the $400 On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 00:24 +0200, Rory Browne wrote: My info may be dated but AFAIK the exam is $200 - so what if you have to take one one month and another the next? That (assuming PHP5 was the same price) would still only be $400. I don't want to sound petty, but what's another $200 for a second certification - having both will give you that long_time_user status. On 4/7/06, Jad madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If taking the exam now makes different to you then go for it, actually I scheduled the exam 29 April bluntly just for the sake of salary increment heh On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:33 -0700, Ray Hauge wrote: Hello All, I've been thinking about taking the ZCE test. I want to, but I also want it to be current for as long as possible. Should I wait for it to be revised for PHP5, or are they even going to update it? I just don't want to end up taking it and then a few months later have it be outdated because it was for PHP4, and not PHP5. Thanks, -- Ray Hauge Programmer/Systems Administrator American Student Loan Services www.americanstudentloan.com 1.800.575.1099 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Anthony Ettinger Signature: http://chovy.dyndns.org/hcard.html
[PHP] ZEND Certification
I'm sure this has been asked in the past, but I figured up to date info never hurts. I'm going to be scheduling my certification soon, but I wanted to hear from any of you that recently got zend certified recently and if you had any advice. Is there any particular portion I should make sure I have strong knowledge of more than any other? Any sites with good advice for this exam? I have read countless online tutorials, but perhaps there are some good ones out there I have passed upany good links? I have read the official Zend Certification guide - which with all the grammatical mistakes, I still was able to make sense of 98% of it or at least knew that when they made a mistake, I knew it was a mistake and what should have been there. Anyway, any certification advice, any at all would be much appreciated... Thanks, B -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] ZEND Certification
Ok, what should I expect from the certification then? Was there any question you didn't expect or anything you didn't know?? If yes, what was it? It seems like not many people took it as I am reading some emails here... like How to get variable after the form is sent etc... I have looked at yellow pages, seems like you're not there either, Rory Browne... If many people here have taken it, can someone please answer my questions above? Thank you! Martin -Original Message- From: Rory Browne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:31 PM To: Martin Zvarik Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] ZEND Certification On 5/20/05, Martin Zvarik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, anyone has taken ZEND PHP Certification Exam??? Yes. Loads of people here have taken it. Loads of other people here set the questions. Please can you give me some information about it? I'm sure you'll get lots of useful and encourageing information about it. In the meantime you might want to search the archives. Thank you, Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ZEND Certification
On 5/21/05, Martin Zvarik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, what should I expect from the certification then? Was there any question you didn't expect or anything you didn't know?? If yes, what was it? It seems like not many people took it as I am reading some emails here... like How to get variable after the form is sent etc... There are new users on this list, but there are also some very experienced programmers here. You'll note that questions such as How to get variable after the form is sent, as well as much more complicated questions are usually answered here. All quoting the above sentence indicates is that not everyone here is experienced. Everyone has to start somewhere, and this list encourages learning, as well as black-voodoo-magic-trick swapping. I have looked at yellow pages, seems like you're not there either, Rory Browne... That might have something to do with the fact that I've never done the exam. However I'm well capable of dealing with forms and variables, as well as pretty much almost anything else PHP related. I've also read many threads here over time in which people outlined their opinions, and offered help on the matter. Forgive me if this seems a bit defensive, but I don't know what you're getting at. If many people here have taken it, can someone please answer my questions above? Thank you! Your questions are very broad, so nobody can give more than generic answers. Check out http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalw=2r=1s=zend+certificationq=b for some answers in the archives. Martin -Original Message- From: Rory Browne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:31 PM To: Martin Zvarik Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] ZEND Certification On 5/20/05, Martin Zvarik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, anyone has taken ZEND PHP Certification Exam??? Yes. Loads of people here have taken it. Loads of other people here set the questions. Please can you give me some information about it? I'm sure you'll get lots of useful and encourageing information about it. In the meantime you might want to search the archives. Thank you, Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] ZEND Certification
Hi, anyone has taken ZEND PHP Certification Exam??? Please can you give me some information about it? Thank you, Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ZEND Certification
On 5/20/05, Martin Zvarik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone has taken ZEND PHP Certification Exam??? http://zend.com/store/education/certification/yellow-pages.php Please can you give me some information about it? http://zend.com/store/education/certification/zend-php-certification.php -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ZEND Certification
On 5/20/05, Martin Zvarik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, anyone has taken ZEND PHP Certification Exam??? Yes. Loads of people here have taken it. Loads of other people here set the questions. Please can you give me some information about it? I'm sure you'll get lots of useful and encourageing information about it. In the meantime you might want to search the archives. Thank you, Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
M Saleh EG wrote: Any advice from the ones that passed? Thanks Aaron Gould wrote: What exactly are you after? Why does it matter if a person has passed or not? As long as someone has taken the exam, that should be sufficient enough to provide some advice. I dont understand what's the problem if I asked? So why such a reply? I don't understand. A couple tidbits of advice have already been given to you, including by me. On 4/25/05, Aaron Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M Saleh EG wrote: Any advice from the ones that passed? Thanks What exactly are you after? Why does it matter if a person has passed or not? As long as someone has taken the exam, that should be sufficient enough to provide some advice. A couple tidbits of advice have already been given to you, including by me. -- Aaron Gould Programmer/Systems Administrator PARTS CANADA -- M.Saleh.E.G 97150-4779817
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
snip I dont understand what's the problem if I asked? So why such a reply? I don't understand. /snip Perhaps it came across as a bit cheeky to Aaron - I kind of got the impression that an answer from someone who has had a go but not passed the exam was not good enough for you... Really, I doubt whether there is any difference in doing the exam whatever the outcome, seeing as what you wanted to know was about taking the exam in the first place. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
Chris Ramsay wrote: Perhaps it came across as a bit cheeky to Aaron - I kind of got the impression that an answer from someone who has had a go but not passed the exam was not good enough for you... Really, I doubt whether there is any difference in doing the exam whatever the outcome, seeing as what you wanted to know was about taking the exam in the first place. That's exactly the impression I got too Chris. Glad I'm not the only one to see it that way! I felt a bit inadequate there for a moment. :) Regardless, my advice still stands (if it still matters coming from a unsuccessful exam taker) -- don't rush the exam and take your time. Some of the questions are tricky in their wording. As an aside -- for those who are unsuccessful with the exam, don't worry, it doesn't mean your a bad programmer. I've been programming PHP for five years now, and there's very little I can't do with it. I just stink at exams; I get antsy when sitting for 30-60 minutes with just a pencil and paper in a quiet room. -- Aaron Gould Programmer/Systems Administrator PARTS CANADA Proudly underperforming in exams for years... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
Well glad that now u put it this way! For me all that matter is jus knowing wat's gonna be up at the exam. When I said someone who passed it realy wanned to know how to tackel the whole thing... u might fail once n pass the second time. I still dont get/understand the negative way of looking at my question. In all the cases thanks for your replies. Will never put such a question up here. On 4/26/05, Aaron Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Ramsay wrote: Perhaps it came across as a bit cheeky to Aaron - I kind of got the impression that an answer from someone who has had a go but not passed the exam was not good enough for you... Really, I doubt whether there is any difference in doing the exam whatever the outcome, seeing as what you wanted to know was about taking the exam in the first place. That's exactly the impression I got too Chris. Glad I'm not the only one to see it that way! I felt a bit inadequate there for a moment. :) Regardless, my advice still stands (if it still matters coming from a unsuccessful exam taker) -- don't rush the exam and take your time. Some of the questions are tricky in their wording. As an aside -- for those who are unsuccessful with the exam, don't worry, it doesn't mean your a bad programmer. I've been programming PHP for five years now, and there's very little I can't do with it. I just stink at exams; I get antsy when sitting for 30-60 minutes with just a pencil and paper in a quiet room. -- Aaron Gould Programmer/Systems Administrator PARTS CANADA Proudly underperforming in exams for years... -- M.Saleh.E.G 97150-4779817
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
Any advice from the ones that passed? Thanks On 4/23/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/05, M Saleh EG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who passesd? If I can pass.. well, good luck! :) -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- M.Saleh.E.G 97150-4779817
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
M Saleh EG wrote: Any advice from the ones that passed? Thanks What exactly are you after? Why does it matter if a person has passed or not? As long as someone has taken the exam, that should be sufficient enough to provide some advice. A couple tidbits of advice have already been given to you, including by me. -- Aaron Gould Programmer/Systems Administrator PARTS CANADA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
Anyone who passesd? On 4/22/05, Aaron Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M Saleh EG wrote: Hi everyone.. kind of OT Anyone who's passed it in the list? I'm having my exam on May 7th. Gone through the guide book once. Sounds easy according to the guide. I dont think it's as easy as i'm thinking it is any experience? Thanx in advance. My advice -- take the full amount of time given to you, and go back over your answers should you have time left over. I took it at the 2005 PHP Quebec Conference (it was part of the fee). I finished it in an hour, but had 90 minutes alotted. I did not pass, and still regret not taking the time to go back over the answers I was unsure of. I think that if I had taken the full time, I would have had a better shot. You'll likely have better luck, as I normally don't do well with exams in general. As an aside, I think the exam needs to mature a bit more. I was confused a few times, and found a few questions that involved cases I had certainly experienced in five plus years of PHP development. I'm sure that'll happen in due time as the certification is only a couple years old. -- Aaron Gould Programmer/Systems Administrator PARTS CANADA -- M.Saleh.E.G 97150-4779817
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
M Saleh EG wrote: Anyone who's passed it in the list? I'm having my exam on May 7th. Gone through the guide book once. Sounds easy according to the guide. I dont think it's as easy as i'm thinking it is any experience? If you think it's easy based on the guide, you're probably fine, particularly if you think the practice questions were easy. Those questions were ones that were thrown out due to being too tricky or difficult, so the questions on the exam are more straightforward. I posted the answers to Zend's self test (plus explanations), in case you fine it helpful: http://shiflett.org/archive/115 Chris -- Chris Shiflett Brain Bulb, The PHP Consultancy http://brainbulb.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
On 4/23/05, M Saleh EG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who passesd? If I can pass.. well, good luck! :) -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Zend Certification Exam
Hi everyone.. kind of OT Anyone who's passed it in the list? I'm having my exam on May 7th. Gone through the guide book once. Sounds easy according to the guide. I dont think it's as easy as i'm thinking it is any experience? Thanx in advance. -- M.Saleh.E.G 97150-4779817
Re: [PHP] Zend Certification Exam
M Saleh EG wrote: Hi everyone.. kind of OT Anyone who's passed it in the list? I'm having my exam on May 7th. Gone through the guide book once. Sounds easy according to the guide. I dont think it's as easy as i'm thinking it is any experience? Thanx in advance. My advice -- take the full amount of time given to you, and go back over your answers should you have time left over. I took it at the 2005 PHP Quebec Conference (it was part of the fee). I finished it in an hour, but had 90 minutes alotted. I did not pass, and still regret not taking the time to go back over the answers I was unsure of. I think that if I had taken the full time, I would have had a better shot. You'll likely have better luck, as I normally don't do well with exams in general. As an aside, I think the exam needs to mature a bit more. I was confused a few times, and found a few questions that involved cases I had certainly experienced in five plus years of PHP development. I'm sure that'll happen in due time as the certification is only a couple years old. -- Aaron Gould Programmer/Systems Administrator PARTS CANADA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
