[PHP] display_errors in DEV

2008-10-21 Thread ceo

Until recently, I've thought that display_errors in DEV was good



But as soon as you move into Ajax Web 2.0 world, it really doesn't cut it.



You'll never see the E_NOTICE and E_WARNING errors for Ajax, probably, and the 
whole thing might just work but you'll have plenty of buggy code.



I think it's time for the PHP team to recommend log_errors across the board.



What do you think?



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Re: [PHP] display_errors in DEV

2008-10-21 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:33 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Until recently, I've thought that display_errors in DEV was good
 
 But as soon as you move into Ajax Web 2.0 world, it really doesn't cut it.
 
 You'll never see the E_NOTICE and E_WARNING errors for Ajax, probably, and 
 the whole thing might just work but you'll have plenty of buggy code.
 
 I think it's time for the PHP team to recommend log_errors across the board.
 
 What do you think?

Have a simple switch for ajax requests so errors to go into a file... or
send the errors along as part of the ajax request and have the ajax code
popup a warning that is readable. Or whatever :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] display_errors in DEV

2008-10-21 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:33 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Until recently, I've thought that display_errors in DEV was good

 But as soon as you move into Ajax Web 2.0 world, it really doesn't cut it.

 You'll never see the E_NOTICE and E_WARNING errors for Ajax, probably, and 
 the whole thing might just work but you'll have plenty of buggy code.

 I think it's time for the PHP team to recommend log_errors across the board.

 What do you think?


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This has bit me in the bum several times.  What I do though is put a
try catch around my json response parsing and if something goes wrong
then I show some error to the user.  Then with firebug I can see the
raw php error.  So I guess I don't care either way since I'm covered.

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RE: [PHP] display_errors in DEV

2008-10-21 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
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 Subject: [PHP] display_errors in DEV
 
 
 Until recently, I've thought that display_errors in DEV was good
 
 But as soon as you move into Ajax Web 2.0 world, it really doesn't cut
 it.
 
 You'll never see the E_NOTICE and E_WARNING errors for Ajax, probably,
 and the whole thing might just work but you'll have plenty of buggy
 code.
 
 I think it's time for the PHP team to recommend log_errors across the
 board.
 
 What do you think?

Report via Javascript exceptions. If you're debugging with your browser
(i.e., Web Developer plug-in for Firefox, or even the plain, built-in
debuggers will do) you should be able to view the exception's message
and maybe even a stack trace if you set it up right.

Todd Boyd
Web Programmer

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