Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Saturday 13 September 2008 23:35:47 Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 23:24 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 01:34:41 Ashley Sheridan wrote: I've never been a huge fan of Vi or Vim, but I am a fan of coding in a text editor, not a GUI, I just guess I prefer Kate. I know for certain that one thing that really bugs me about Dreamweaver is the fact that it has a tendency to really nerf up the spacing, and it replaces tabs with spaces more often than not. It's all about the tabs to space things out, adding spaces just makes the files bigger! Oh, thats just how you set up DW, options on indentations is througoutly documented inside the preferences pane and quite a few options to go, only thing that is wrong with it is the way it can't handle large projects, say like more than 100 files. nevermind the filesize... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net I've worked on projects like that before, but never considered DW, I used Notepad++ instead, as I was forced to use Windows at work at the time. I never really had any reason to try to open all the files at once though... ;) Thats not what I was talking abount either,The tree view of project files cannot handle many files before the waiting gets annoying Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 10:23 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 23:35:47 Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 23:24 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 01:34:41 Ashley Sheridan wrote: I've never been a huge fan of Vi or Vim, but I am a fan of coding in a text editor, not a GUI, I just guess I prefer Kate. I know for certain that one thing that really bugs me about Dreamweaver is the fact that it has a tendency to really nerf up the spacing, and it replaces tabs with spaces more often than not. It's all about the tabs to space things out, adding spaces just makes the files bigger! Oh, thats just how you set up DW, options on indentations is througoutly documented inside the preferences pane and quite a few options to go, only thing that is wrong with it is the way it can't handle large projects, say like more than 100 files. nevermind the filesize... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net I've worked on projects like that before, but never considered DW, I used Notepad++ instead, as I was forced to use Windows at work at the time. I never really had any reason to try to open all the files at once though... ;) Thats not what I was talking abount either,The tree view of project files cannot handle many files before the waiting gets annoying Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net Tree view of a project, now there's an idea. Of course, real programmers keep it all in their heads... Nah, I guess I've just not worked on anything complex enough that I've needed the tree view yet. Mind you, this new project I've been assigned to could well be going that way. It's a mess of a system written in C# and it keeps crashing regularly to boot. Somewhere along the line I think a sadist got involved in the project, because it's really painful to work with sometimes... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Saturday 13 September 2008 01:34:41 Ashley Sheridan wrote: I've never been a huge fan of Vi or Vim, but I am a fan of coding in a text editor, not a GUI, I just guess I prefer Kate. I know for certain that one thing that really bugs me about Dreamweaver is the fact that it has a tendency to really nerf up the spacing, and it replaces tabs with spaces more often than not. It's all about the tabs to space things out, adding spaces just makes the files bigger! Oh, thats just how you set up DW, options on indentations is througoutly documented inside the preferences pane and quite a few options to go, only thing that is wrong with it is the way it can't handle large projects, say like more than 100 files. nevermind the filesize... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 23:24 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 01:34:41 Ashley Sheridan wrote: I've never been a huge fan of Vi or Vim, but I am a fan of coding in a text editor, not a GUI, I just guess I prefer Kate. I know for certain that one thing that really bugs me about Dreamweaver is the fact that it has a tendency to really nerf up the spacing, and it replaces tabs with spaces more often than not. It's all about the tabs to space things out, adding spaces just makes the files bigger! Oh, thats just how you set up DW, options on indentations is througoutly documented inside the preferences pane and quite a few options to go, only thing that is wrong with it is the way it can't handle large projects, say like more than 100 files. nevermind the filesize... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net I've worked on projects like that before, but never considered DW, I used Notepad++ instead, as I was forced to use Windows at work at the time. I never really had any reason to try to open all the files at once though... ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php image and javascript include
I'm a big fan of Zend Studio 5. It's pretty hard to beat considering how fast you can code load up the page refresh, and the editor itself is very clean plus it works in linux. I know a lot of people like to soft tab but I just don’t have the patience. Hard tabs all the way for me. Tom Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:36 PM To: Børge Holen Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 23:24 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 01:34:41 Ashley Sheridan wrote: I've never been a huge fan of Vi or Vim, but I am a fan of coding in a text editor, not a GUI, I just guess I prefer Kate. I know for certain that one thing that really bugs me about Dreamweaver is the fact that it has a tendency to really nerf up the spacing, and it replaces tabs with spaces more often than not. It's all about the tabs to space things out, adding spaces just makes the files bigger! Oh, thats just how you set up DW, options on indentations is througoutly documented inside the preferences pane and quite a few options to go, only thing that is wrong with it is the way it can't handle large projects, say like more than 100 files. nevermind the filesize... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net I've worked on projects like that before, but never considered DW, I used Notepad++ instead, as I was forced to use Windows at work at the time. I never really had any reason to try to open all the files at once though... ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
there's three letters VIM! You can make that do most anything if you trawl the scripts site. . . 2008/9/9 Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate has an auto text feature, and you can set it to start prompting from typing in as few characters as you wish, although it only prompts for things you've already typed, it this does save you from making obvious variable name typos as it will prompt the next time you try to use it, and it recognises many, many more languages than DW. If you're just after the code view, Dreamweaver is a little heavy, and it runs on an OS which is also a bit heavy, but that's for another discussion! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:57:34 +0200 Subject: Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include On Monday 08 September 2008 14:53:24 Jay Moore wrote: Dreamweaver? Eclipse? Pah, it's all about using a text editor! Kate (on KDE) is my preference ;) Heathen! Dreamweaver is awesome. Not for their WYSIWYG editor, but for their code-only view and its auto-complete. Never have I typed so little to get so... little. I thought so to, till I tried quanta+ Jay -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Luke Slater
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Friday 12 September 2008 12:02:13 you wrote: there's three letters VIM! yes and amiga still kicks ass. The old fashioned way works, ok. But ... after a while, you still do the same old thing the same old way, while everything passes you by. I love vim for reading and editing a file here or there, make a script to do some backup there, shortcuts for doing a lot of small thing. Still I draw a line when having to do projects with more than a few files, there are new and better ways. But your not that far off, I feel sorry for those guys still thinking nano and joe is the world ;D You can make that do most anything if you trawl the scripts site. . . 2008/9/9 Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate has an auto text feature, and you can set it to start prompting from typing in as few characters as you wish, although it only prompts for things you've already typed, it this does save you from making obvious variable name typos as it will prompt the next time you try to use it, and it recognises many, many more languages than DW. If you're just after the code view, Dreamweaver is a little heavy, and it runs on an OS which is also a bit heavy, but that's for another discussion! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:57:34 +0200 Subject: Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include On Monday 08 September 2008 14:53:24 Jay Moore wrote: Dreamweaver? Eclipse? Pah, it's all about using a text editor! Kate (on KDE) is my preference ;) Heathen! Dreamweaver is awesome. Not for their WYSIWYG editor, but for their code-only view and its auto-complete. Never have I typed so little to get so... little. I thought so to, till I tried quanta+ Jay -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 15:11 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Friday 12 September 2008 12:02:13 you wrote: there's three letters VIM! yes and amiga still kicks ass. The old fashioned way works, ok. But ... after a while, you still do the same old thing the same old way, while everything passes you by. I love vim for reading and editing a file here or there, make a script to do some backup there, shortcuts for doing a lot of small thing. Still I draw a line when having to do projects with more than a few files, there are new and better ways. But your not that far off, I feel sorry for those guys still thinking nano and joe is the world ;D Keep your pity, I'm in no need of it :) Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
I've never been a huge fan of Vi or Vim, but I am a fan of coding in a text editor, not a GUI, I just guess I prefer Kate. I know for certain that one thing that really bugs me about Dreamweaver is the fact that it has a tendency to really nerf up the spacing, and it replaces tabs with spaces more often than not. It's all about the tabs to space things out, adding spaces just makes the files bigger! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 15:11 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Friday 12 September 2008 12:02:13 you wrote: there's three letters VIM! yes and amiga still kicks ass. The old fashioned way works, ok. But ... after a while, you still do the same old thing the same old way, while everything passes you by. I love vim for reading and editing a file here or there, make a script to do some backup there, shortcuts for doing a lot of small thing. Still I draw a line when having to do projects with more than a few files, there are new and better ways. But your not that far off, I feel sorry for those guys still thinking nano and joe is the world ;D Keep your pity, I'm in no need of it :) Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
Kate has an auto text feature, and you can set it to start prompting from typing in as few characters as you wish, although it only prompts for things you've already typed, it this does save you from making obvious variable name typos as it will prompt the next time you try to use it, and it recognises many, many more languages than DW. If you're just after the code view, Dreamweaver is a little heavy, and it runs on an OS which is also a bit heavy, but that's for another discussion! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- On Monday 08 September 2008 14:53:24 Jay Moore wrote: Dreamweaver? Eclipse? Pah, it's all about using a text editor! Kate (on KDE) is my preference ;) Heathen! Dreamweaver is awesome. Not for their WYSIWYG editor, but for their code-only view and its auto-complete. Never have I typed so little to get so... little. I thought so to, till I tried quanta+ Jay -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
Dreamweaver? Eclipse? Pah, it's all about using a text editor! Kate (on KDE) is my preference ;) Heathen! Dreamweaver is awesome. Not for their WYSIWYG editor, but for their code-only view and its auto-complete. Never have I typed so little to get so... little. Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On Monday 08 September 2008 14:53:24 Jay Moore wrote: Dreamweaver? Eclipse? Pah, it's all about using a text editor! Kate (on KDE) is my preference ;) Heathen! Dreamweaver is awesome. Not for their WYSIWYG editor, but for their code-only view and its auto-complete. Never have I typed so little to get so... little. I thought so to, till I tried quanta+ Jay -- --- Børge Holen http://www.arivene.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php image and javascript include
Hi All, Strange issue here. I m including images and javascript in my php file. None of them show/work up. If i change the .php file to .html, both thing start working. So no issues with path and all. Any idea? Thanks, Sachin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/php-image-and-javascript-include-tp19357706p19357706.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
Do you have an excerpt of the PHP code you have preceeding the HTML you are using to include the JavaScript images? Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- Hi All, Strange issue here. I m including images and javascript in my php file. None of them show/work up. If i change the .php file to .html, both thing start working. So no issues with path and all. Any idea? Thanks, Sachin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/php-image-and-javascript-include-tp19357706p19357706.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
Thanks for the reply. here is the php file. I am using wamp server 2.0 http://www.nabble.com/file/p19360339/signin.jpg signin.jpg Ashley Sheridan-3 wrote: Do you have an excerpt of the PHP code you have preceeding the HTML you are using to include the JavaScript images? Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Hi All, Strange issue here. I m including images and javascript in my php file. None of them show/work up. If i change the .php file to .html, both thing start working. So no issues with path and all. Any idea? Thanks, Sachin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/php-image-and-javascript-include-tp19357706p19357706.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php http://www.nabble.com/file/p19360339/signup.php signup.php -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/php-image-and-javascript-include-tp19357706p19360339.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
valign=top background=images/login_17.jpgtable width=95% align=center cellpadding=1 cellspacing=0 tr td width=33% height=36 class=Logindiv align=centerLog In/div/td td colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=leftnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;Sign Up! /div/td /tr tr td height=12 class=Login/td td width=29% class=signup/td td width=38% class=signup/td /tr tr td height=36 class=Logindiv align=rightUser Id : /div/td td height=36 colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=center input name=textfield type=text class=blue size=27 maxlength=50 /div/td /tr tr td height=36 class=Logindiv align=rightPassword : /div/td td height=36 colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=center input name=textfield2 type=text class=blue size=27 maxlength=50 /div/td /tr tr td class=Loginnbsp;/td td class=signupnbsp;/td td class=signupnbsp;/td /tr tr td colspan=2 class=Logininput name=checkbox type=checkbox class=blue value=checkbox Remember Me /td td class=signupdiv align=right # images/login.png nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;/div/td /tr tr td class=Loginnbsp;/td td colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=right # Forgot your password?nbsp; /div/td /tr /table/td /tr /table/td /tr tr td valign=topnbsp;/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td valign=topnbsp;/td /tr /table /td /tr /table /body /html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/php-image-and-javascript-include-tp19357706p19360501.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
On 7 Sep 2008, at 18:35, javasac wrote: snip code I see no PHP in there. Please post the piece of PHP code you're having a problem with. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
javasac wrote: snip Where is the PHP? There's nothing between ?php and ? tags. Nothing between PHP short tags ( ? and ? ), either. Reese -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
td width=306 height=203 valign=toptable width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 tr td width=306 height=203 valign=top background=images/login_17.jpgtable width=95% align=center cellpadding=1 cellspacing=0 tr td width=33% height=36 class=Logindiv align=centerLog In/div/td td colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=leftnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;Sign Up! /div/td /tr tr td height=12 class=Login/td td width=29% class=signup/td td width=38% class=signup/td /tr tr td height=36 class=Logindiv align=rightUser Id : /div/td td height=36 colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=center input name=textfield type=text class=blue size=27 maxlength=50 /div/td /tr tr td height=36 class=Logindiv align=rightPassword : /div/td td height=36 colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=center input name=textfield2 type=text class=blue size=27 maxlength=50 /div/td /tr tr td class=Loginnbsp;/td td class=signupnbsp;/td td class=signupnbsp;/td /tr tr td colspan=2 class=Logininput name=checkbox type=checkbox class=blue value=checkbox Remember Me /td td class=signupdiv align=right # images/login.png nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;/div/td /tr tr td class=Loginnbsp;/td td colspan=2 class=signupdiv align=right # Forgot your password?nbsp; /div/td /tr /table/td /tr /table/td /tr tr td valign=topnbsp;/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td valign=topnbsp;/td /tr /table /td /tr /table /body /html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/php-image-and-javascript-include-tp19357706p19360501.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
javasac wrote: [lots of stuff ...] I'm guessing that was the *output* of the PHP file, not the script itself. You've got a couple different errors here. The first is that you're not creating img tags. All you have here is the path to the image. A browser isn't going to do anything with that. td width=10 height=7 images/box_bottom_lft.jpg /td Second, at least one of the image paths is relative to your own desktop computer's drive (why is it that this always happens on a Windows box?) td width=11 C:/wamp/www/yojoe-web/html/site/images/box_top_rht.jpg /td Also, in the future, it'd be better to trim out the completely unnecessary bits. That's an awful lot of (bloated) HTML and javascript to wade through. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
b wrote: javasac wrote: [lots of stuff ...] Second, at least one of the image paths is relative to your own desktop computer's drive (why is it that this always happens on a Windows box?) td width=11 C:/wamp/www/yojoe-web/html/site/images/box_top_rht.jpg /td PEBKAC error? I've seen it happen when an inexperienced developer copied a file to another location, from within Dreamweaver, on a Mac. Dreamweaver updates the file path(s) if permitted and depending on a couple of variables, puts in an absolute path to the location on that particular machine. Reese -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
Reese schreef: b wrote: javasac wrote: [lots of stuff ...] Second, at least one of the image paths is relative to your own desktop computer's drive (why is it that this always happens on a Windows box?) td width=11 C:/wamp/www/yojoe-web/html/site/images/box_top_rht.jpg /td PEBKAC error? I've seen it happen when an inexperienced developer copied a file to another location, from within Dreamweaver, on a Mac. Dreamweaver updates the file path(s) if permitted and depending on a couple of variables, puts in an absolute path to the location on that particular machine. at the opposite end of the stick you have Eclipse users (mac or otherwise) whose machines freeze up when moving or renaming stuff as Eclipse tries to refactor code that references the resource. It's no wonder that dreamweaver screws such stuff up ... with Eclipse you seem to have to sell your soul in order get the arcane settings related to these kinds of 'productivity' tools even close to working. mines the one with 'not for sale' on the back. Reese -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php image and javascript include
Dreamweaver? Eclipse? Pah, it's all about using a text editor! Kate (on KDE) is my preference ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- Reese schreef: b wrote: javasac wrote: [lots of stuff ...] Second, at least one of the image paths is relative to your own desktop computer's drive (why is it that this always happens on a Windows box?) td width=11 C:/wamp/www/yojoe-web/html/site/images/box_top_rht.jpg /td PEBKAC error? I've seen it happen when an inexperienced developer copied a file to another location, from within Dreamweaver, on a Mac. Dreamweaver updates the file path(s) if permitted and depending on a couple of variables, puts in an absolute path to the location on that particular machine. at the opposite end of the stick you have Eclipse users (mac or otherwise) whose machines freeze up when moving or renaming stuff as Eclipse tries to refactor code that references the resource. It's no wonder that dreamweaver screws such stuff up ... with Eclipse you seem to have to sell your soul in order get the arcane settings related to these kinds of 'productivity' tools even close to working. mines the one with 'not for sale' on the back. Reese -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php