Re[4]: [PHP] text email new line
Hello Jason, Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 11:50:26 AM, you wrote: JW If you're interested: JW http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/qmail-myths-dispelled.html JW the section entitled The myth about supporting bare LFs being a requirement Interesting reading. Pair Networks use qmail as their SMTP server of choice so I threw a test email out via PHP that had \n's all over the shop and it arrived quite happily. So either something has changed since the writing of that or it's perhaps optional and set by the host themselves? Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[4]: [PHP] text email new line
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 12:29, Richard Davey wrote: Interesting reading. Pair Networks use qmail as their SMTP server of choice so I threw a test email out via PHP that had \n's all over the shop and it arrived quite happily. So either something has changed since the writing of that or it's perhaps optional and set by the host themselves? qmail has a patch that handles bare linefeeds. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Nobody can be as agreeable as an uninvited guest. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] text email new line
I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. \n seems to be not working. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] text email new line
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:12:49 -0500, Jerry Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. \n seems to be not working. Use \r\n instead of just \n. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://gdconsultants.com/ http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] text email new line
Hello Jerry, Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 4:12:49 PM, you wrote: JS I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. JS \n seems to be not working. \n in a text (not HTML) email will do the trick most of the time, sometimes I see \r\n, but \n works for me nicely. Are you sure it's quoted properly? instead of ''? Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] text email new line
Use \r\n Some pop server doesn't support other special characters. Sebastiano Alle 17:12, martedì 2 novembre 2004, Jerry Swanson ha scritto: I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. \n seems to be not working. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] text email new line
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:25:56 +, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jerry, JS I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. JS \n seems to be not working. \n in a text (not HTML) email will do the trick most of the time, sometimes I see \r\n, but \n works for me nicely. Are you sure it's quoted properly? instead of ''? The RFC 2822 for Internet Message Format states clearly that MUST be \r\n using only \n is not standard and you cannot expet all servers to accept it as a valid separator. Just want to take your attention to this paragraph from RFC 2822: Messages are divided into lines of characters. A line is a series of characters that is delimited with the TWO characters carriage-return and line-feed; that is, the carriage-return (CR) character (ASCII value 13) followed inmediatly by the line-feed (LF) character (ASCII value 10). Also take in consideration that a message line cannot have more that 998 characters (plus CRLF) ... The RFC 2821 says: The apperance of CR or LF characters in text has long history of causing problems in mail implementations and applications that use the mail system as a tool. SMTP client implementattions MUST NOT transmit these characters except when they are intended as line terminators and then MUST transmit them only as CRLF sequence. I hope this will help in composing mail messages and my recommendation is to *follow the standard* and send messages always by using CRLF as a line delimiter. Only doing that way, you will ensure your messages are accepted by any server. More information: RFC 2822 - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html. RFC 2821 - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html. Best regards, Jordi. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] text email new line
#1. $headers .= Content-Type: text/plain; #2. $headers .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\r\n; If I use #1 header I don't need \n\r just create extra space on the email. Why \n\r doesn't work for #2 ? TH On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:23:41 +0100, Sebastiano Cascione [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use \r\n Some pop server doesn't support other special characters. Sebastiano Alle 17:12, martedì 2 novembre 2004, Jerry Swanson ha scritto: I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. \n seems to be not working. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] text email new line
It is working without \r\n. Just using regular spaces/new lines in the text message. On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:34:00 +0100, Jordi Canals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:25:56 +, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jerry, JS I'm sending text email. How I can make new line. JS \n seems to be not working. \n in a text (not HTML) email will do the trick most of the time, sometimes I see \r\n, but \n works for me nicely. Are you sure it's quoted properly? instead of ''? The RFC 2822 for Internet Message Format states clearly that MUST be \r\n using only \n is not standard and you cannot expet all servers to accept it as a valid separator. Just want to take your attention to this paragraph from RFC 2822: Messages are divided into lines of characters. A line is a series of characters that is delimited with the TWO characters carriage-return and line-feed; that is, the carriage-return (CR) character (ASCII value 13) followed inmediatly by the line-feed (LF) character (ASCII value 10). Also take in consideration that a message line cannot have more that 998 characters (plus CRLF) ... The RFC 2821 says: The apperance of CR or LF characters in text has long history of causing problems in mail implementations and applications that use the mail system as a tool. SMTP client implementattions MUST NOT transmit these characters except when they are intended as line terminators and then MUST transmit them only as CRLF sequence. I hope this will help in composing mail messages and my recommendation is to *follow the standard* and send messages always by using CRLF as a line delimiter. Only doing that way, you will ensure your messages are accepted by any server. More information: RFC 2822 - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html. RFC 2821 - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html. Best regards, Jordi. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re[2]: [PHP] text email new line
Hello Jordi, Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 5:34:00 PM, you wrote: JC I hope this will help in composing mail messages and my recommendation JC is to *follow the standard* and send messages always by using CRLF as JC a line delimiter. Only doing that way, you will ensure your messages JC are accepted by any server. I'm not disagreeing with what you posted, because it's all true, but I would like to ask - can you actually name a popular mail server that rejects emails that use \n as a line delimiter (even if used by mistake), because I've haven't seen it happen for years. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re[2]: [PHP] text email new line
Hi Richard,
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 00:19:59 +, Richard Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Jordi,
Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 5:34:00 PM, you wrote:
JC I hope this will help in composing mail messages and my recommendation
JC is to *follow the standard* and send messages always by using CRLF as
JC a line delimiter. Only doing that way, you will ensure your messages
JC are accepted by any server.
I'm not disagreeing with what you posted, because it's all true, but I
would like to ask - can you actually name a popular mail server that
rejects emails that use \n as a line delimiter (even if used by
mistake), because I've haven't seen it happen for years.
Well, I don't know if this has changed, but less than one year ago
Hotmail was one of them and dropped mail messages with LF as line
separator. Some SMTP implementations on Windows also drops the
messages. And, finally some clients don't wrap the message correctly
when received and you have to scroll horizontally to read long lines.
Take in attention the 2.3.7 section of the RFC 2821 wich says: SMTP
client implementations MUST NOT transmit these characters (CR or LF)
except when they are intended as line terminators and then MUST,
transmit them only as a CRLF sequence.
So, when we are sending a message from PHP, we are involved in an SMTP
client implementation. Then, when composing the headers or the body
for a message to be sent (i.e. using the mail() function) we have to
follow the standards to ensure that the message will not be rejected
by any server just because we sent it in a bad format.
So, because we cannot ensure that all SMTP servers in the world will
accept non-standard line terminators, my recommendation when sending
mail, is to use the standard line terminator and compose headers and
body with CRLF as a line terminator. Only that way you will be
absolutelly sure that the mail will not be rejected because of line
terminators.
I think a good way to do it, is to define a CRLF constant:
define('CRLF', \r\n);
You could also ensure that the body is well formed forcing the line
terminators to CRLF:
$body = preg_replace(/(\r\n)|(\r)|(\n)/, \r\n, $body);
Best regards,
Jordi.
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Re: Re[2]: [PHP] text email new line
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 00:19, Richard Davey wrote: I'm not disagreeing with what you posted, because it's all true, but I would like to ask - can you actually name a popular mail server that rejects emails that use \n as a line delimiter (even if used by mistake), because I've haven't seen it happen for years. If you're interested: http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/qmail-myths-dispelled.html the section entitled The myth about supporting bare LFs being a requirement -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* History allows us to see the obvious -- but unfortunately, not until it is too late. -- PRINCE RAPHAEL CORRINO */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
