Re: [PHP] zend ide debugger
PHPEd now supports debugger and still free :) 1-month commercial license ($90). Download wasn't too bad. I haven't had a chance to check out the Zend LaunchPad. The installation (Apache Linux PHP 4.04pl1+patches) took me about 30 minutes for client and server which included the wait on the license key. It took us another day to put up because there is no mention that the debugger doesn't work with the optimizer on. Zend customer service fixed that though. The IDE is pretty nice. Startup (Windows version through Samba) takes a long time and there are still some crashing issues. It's nowhere near as spry as PHPEd but we're talking about a integrated debugger. The interface is Swing-based as near as I can tell and my main gripe besides the speed is I can't use the scroll wheel. It still crashes a bunch (not sure if it's the debugger or what). I passed it off to an engineer so I can't comment further. (He's having trouble getting it to recognize the include files. Anyone have a tip?) BTW, the debugger has a browser mode, it sends off some codes in a the get string of the URL. I didn't test it. Some people like source level debuggers and I think it's a good tool especially considering all the headaches Nexidion Designer gave us a while back. Personally, the last time I used a debugger, I was making a calculator using an 80186 (the debugger was a hardware one the size of two coffee table books stacked next to each other) so obviously I never got used to them. If you come from the Boreland C/Visual Studio world, I suppose you might find the IDE essential. If my engineers ever use it, I'll get the company to spring for a license or 5. Take care, terry -- terry chay, Director of Engineering, http://www.QIXO.com/ QIXO /kick.so/ - Integrating Many Travel Web Sites Into One W: 1.408.394-8102 F:1.408.516.9090M: 1.408.314.0717 E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16069322 PGP Fingerprint: 6DCF 1634 547C 935D 4912 2A44 A4A2 79AB DFFF F110 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] zend ide debugger
The IDE is pretty nice. Startup (Windows version through Samba) takes a long time and there are still some crashing issues. Have you reported these if the happen consistenly Im sure the Zend folk would love to hear about them so that they can fix them.. It's nowhere near as spry as PHPEd but we're talking about a integrated debugger. We are talking about Java and C/C++ or whatever phped is written in, Java will be slower but then you can use it on nearly any platform. I can't use the scroll wheel. Java does not support this very well yet at all but maybe the Zend folks will sort this for a future version the 1.4 JRE should support this... I passed it off to an engineer so I can't comment further. (He's having trouble getting it to recognize the include files. Anyone have a tip?) Include files must be on the webserver in the same dir as dummy.php or your include path, personally this is slightly annonying but maybe we will see this fixed in a future version.. James -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] zend ide debugger
1-month commercial license ($90). Download wasn't too bad. I haven't had a chance to check out the Zend LaunchPad. The installation (Apache Linux PHP 4.04pl1+patches) took me about 30 minutes for client and server which included the wait on the license key. It took us another day to put up because there is no mention that the debugger doesn't work with the optimizer on. Zend customer service fixed that though. The IDE is pretty nice. Startup (Windows version through Samba) takes a long time and there are still some crashing issues. It's nowhere near as spry as PHPEd but we're talking about a integrated debugger. The interface is Swing-based as near as I can tell and my main gripe besides the speed is I can't use the scroll wheel. It still crashes a bunch (not sure if it's the debugger or what). I passed it off to an engineer so I can't comment further. (He's having trouble getting it to recognize the include files. Anyone have a tip?) BTW, the debugger has a browser mode, it sends off some codes in a the get string of the URL. I didn't test it. Some people like source level debuggers and I think it's a good tool especially considering all the headaches Nexidion Designer gave us a while back. Personally, the last time I used a debugger, I was making a calculator using an 80186 (the debugger was a hardware one the size of two coffee table books stacked next to each other) so obviously I never got used to them. If you come from the Boreland C/Visual Studio world, I suppose you might find the IDE essential. If my engineers ever use it, I'll get the company to spring for a license or 5. Take care, terry -- terry chay, Director of Engineering, http://www.QIXO.com/ QIXO /kick.so/ - Integrating Many Travel Web Sites Into One W: 1.408.394-8102 F:1.408.516.9090M: 1.408.314.0717 E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16069322 PGP Fingerprint: 6DCF 1634 547C 935D 4912 2A44 A4A2 79AB DFFF F110 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] zend ide debugger
ola all, has anyone used the zend ide+debugger? before I slap down $800, I'd like to know if people who have think it's groovy.. :) _alex -- Alex Black, Head Monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Turing Studio, Inc. http://www.turingstudio.com vox+510.666.0074 fax+510.666.0093 Saul Zaentz Film Center 2600 Tenth St Suite 433 Berkeley, CA 94710-2522 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] zend ide debugger
The IDE+Debugger combo really looks great, esp. because of the debug support being AWOL in PHP4. I'm a little bit irked about that actually, they obviously stopped the "free" development on it, and moved it in house. But I guess you gotta put food on the table :) I really would prefer to have debug info printed to a browser instead of _only_ accessible through their IDE. anyway. I'm a little worried about the IDE being written in java tho...I hope its not as slow/memory hungry/crash happy as the other java + JRE apps I've used... That's getting a bit better, I've got a couple apps that run fine on win2k that are java. they're memory pigs but that's the multiplatform life. also, you're sort of screwed if you want to go X + windows, without maintaining two separate codebases, so I understand the choice. plus, swing is very mac-esque, so I approve :) Too bad there's not an evaluation version available for download. I've sent mail to one of their sales guys, adam, about that. The 30-day "evaluation" is pretty funny: you have to pay $100 for it. (come _on_)! _but_, for me the "encoder se" is worth the $800 right out, I can ensure some values stored in my apps right now are ripped up in a binary, which is extra-extra-groovy for security. -alex Ben At 03:15 PM 1/23/2001, you wrote: ola all, has anyone used the zend ide+debugger? before I slap down $800, I'd like to know if people who have think it's groovy.. :) _alex -- Alex Black, Head Monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Turing Studio, Inc. http://www.turingstudio.com vox+510.666.0074 fax+510.666.0093 Saul Zaentz Film Center 2600 Tenth St Suite 433 Berkeley, CA 94710-2522 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
