Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Have you tried this test with your code?
http://www.php.net/FAQ.php#7.8
The FAQ does not give a solution, but the problem is known to have affected
only select users. The problem is no-one seems to know what the selection
criteria is! Some people have the problem, some do not.
DAve
on 5/18/01 7:49 AM, Lucas Persona at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jason,
I've Replyed also to the lsit, because someone could help us on this...
Jason Lotito wrote:
Lucas Persona wrote:
I was used to think on that way...
Some time ago I have problems with Netscape 6 and PHP. It
was not a HTML error
but something related to PHP/Netscape 6.
The problem was in showing correctly the source code.
I had a page that includes another one, like a
header/menu/footer main that includes
a data area.
If I just put the include (or require code) following the
page sequence, that's ok, the Netscape 6 shows correctly the source.
If I add something like (if (isSet($var) $var == 10) {})
before the include
(or require) and $var exists and has value 10, the parser
will process the include, show
the page, but Netscape don't show the source code of this part.
Unfortunately, I have a very hard time believing this. Now, I can
imagine a few instances where this might come into play, but then you
would have to actually design for this to happen, but you didn't. I
would have to imagine that something was wrong with your actual code
logic, as PHP is only as good as the HTML you code, and the logic you
use. If the if statement was failing, of course it would not include
the file. At the same time, why you used both isset() and $var == 10
when $var == 10 would have worked fine also makes me wonder about the
underlying code.
Yeah I know...I can say that I still don't believe..but it happens! :)
If you (or anyone here) has Netscape 6 (I'm using the 6.01) could try
the following codes:
File: netscape6.php
?php
echo HTMLBODY\n;
echo this is a test...this is the first partBR\n;
echo this is a test...this is the second partBR\n;
echo form method=\POST\ action=\netscape6.1.php\
name=\netscape\\n;
echo input type=hidden name=var value=10\n;
echo input type=submit name=go value=\Test\\n;
echo /form\n;
echo /BODY/HTML\n;
?
File: netscape6.1.php
?php
echo HTMLBODY\n;
echo 1) this is a test...this is the first partBR\n;
echo this is a test...this is the second partBR\n;
if ( $var == 10)
{
include ('netscape6.2.php');
}
echo this is a test...this is the last partbr\n;
echo /BODY/HTML\n;
?
File: netscape6.2.php
?php
echo h1this is the other file.../h1\n;
?
Ok, now that you have all the three sample files you can check for
HTML errors...
How I did the test:
1. Run Netscape 6
2. Access file netscape6.php
3. Press the 'Test' button that POST to netscape6.1.php
4. See the page and compare with the source code (View Page Source)
5. Surprise! They are different...the netscape6.2.php file is not in the
source.
6. Change the netscape6.1.php file on the following lines:
3: echo 2) this is a test...this is the first partBR\n;
5: // if ( $var == 10)
6: //{
8: //}
7. Great! Now that you just take the if statement out, clear the
Netscape
Cache (Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Cache - Clear Memory Cache
and
Clear Disk Cache)
8. Access file netscape6.php again..
9. Press the 'Test' button that POST to netscape6.1.php
10. The result is the same that you've get before but now, when you view
the source code, the result of netscape6.2.php is there too..
11. Be sure to see the '2)' on the Page Source. If the '1)' is still
there
you need to clean your cache.
Anyone did this test? How Netscape know that there is an if statment
there??
Any point that I'm missing on this test?
This is not a big deal when dealing with simple pages, but,
if you have a form on this
page, it will not work right since after the page comes to
the browser and is shown, it
doesn't recognize it anymore.
It's very strange but I tested it and it happened that
way...changing something on PHP
code, changes the behaviour of the browser..
No. PHP does what you tell it to do, and by all accounts, I can only
see that you were telling PHP NOT to display the code.
Try the test above.. It shows the code but netscape doesn't know that.
See you,
Lucas Persona
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Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Hy there! DAve Goodrich wrote: Have you tried this test with your code? http://www.php.net/FAQ.php#7.8 The FAQ does not give a solution, but the problem is known to have affected only select users. The problem is no-one seems to know what the selection criteria is! Some people have the problem, some do not. Yeah..I did it and no '\0' was returned. Then I traced everything to find out what was happening. The final briefing: :) Netscape 6.x handles in a different way some actions. The reason that Netscape doesn't show a correct Source is because Netscape don't use the currently showed page to get the source. It does another GET to get (get-get oops :)) the source. This way the 'View Source' option do another server access and this time don't send the POST variables needed. The browser request: X.X.X.X - - [18/May/2001:13:58:44 -0300] POST /netscape6.1.php HTTP/1.1 200 208 http: //server.com/netscape6.php Mozilla/5.0 Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 The 'View Source' request: X.X.X.X - - [18/May/2001:13:59:17 -0300] GET /netscape6.1.php HTTP/1.1 200 173 - Mo zilla/5.0 Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 Another problem on this subject is when creating a FORM that, via a POST method will define a download. Netscape 6.x do the POST and ALSO DO A GET, so the result for the download is wrong. Netscape X.xx or IE X.xx do just one POST and then download the file. I don't know if there is a way to change this Netscape behaviour... or change everything to GET style ;) Well..I think this is the answer for that 'strange behaviou'... Thanks for everyone that helped on that... See you, -- Lucas PersonaICQ #17635618 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +55 19 451 6300 --- Widesoft Sistemas Ltda http://www.widesoft.com.br -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Good call, Lucas! Netscape has bitten me before on this one, and I had forgotten about it- sorry. I was doing a View Source, but all the dynamic elements that got updated on each request were changing, because Netscape does another request for the View Source. So, the View Source code is not the code that produced the page I was looking at. Drove me nuts until I figured it out. Thanks for the reminder. Kirk -Original Message- From: Lucas Persona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ ,anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6? The reason that Netscape doesn't show a correct Source is because Netscape don't use the currently showed page to get the source. It does another GET to get (get-get oops :)) the source. This way the 'View Source' option do another server access and this time don't send the POST variables needed. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ , anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
Do you have a URL I could try? I've used PHP to generate a lot of dynamic js and css. DAve on 5/17/01 1:50 PM, Billy Harvey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I am not making a JavaScript version at all I don't see where I ever say this. ??? 2. If I copy the html outputted to the browser and past it into an html file it loads good. When I say I suspect this to be something wrong with PHP I mean that Netscape doesn't play good with PHP.(Not that PHP has a bug in it) Thanks, Brandon Brandon, Neither Netscape nor any other browser has any clue that PHP is being used on the server. All broswers simply interpret the html, javascript, java, etc.that gets sent to them. PHP is not a factor in whatever is causing a browser to misbehave. For Netscape it's often an improperly formed table that causes trouble. I occassionally find that people also use IE-centric code without realizing it (or perhaps without caring initially). Billy -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Netscape 6, What a piece of s$#@ , anyone else hadproblems with php and Netscape 6?
You need some closing table row tags in lines 19,34,49,64,79,94. DAve on 5/17/01 4:21 PM, Brandon Orther at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE Willows Road, Suite 100 Redmond, WA 98052 Toll Free 1-877-869-6603 ext. 237 Fax (425) 558-5655 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rblc.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
