Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Hey, Thanks Mark, Matthew, Manuel and Miles. (Yep, even i thought it was quite funny how only ppl with their firstnames that start with M replied :-D , sounds almost like I will be quoting the bible next!) You guys have given me some very good starting points, will look into it. Feel free to chip in anything else that may come to mind. Cheers, Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Matthew Weier O'Phinney mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 6:55 AM said: Mails are then queued to an MTA -- in our case, Postfix. This is the part I don't know how to do. Can you explain/show some code? Thanks, Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Hello, on 09/12/2005 02:56 PM Chris W. Parker said the following: Matthew Weier O'Phinney mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 6:55 AM said: Mails are then queued to an MTA -- in our case, Postfix. This is the part I don't know how to do. Can you explain/show some code? Just use the mail function and it will get queued in Postfix. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/ Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
* Manuel Lemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hello, on 09/12/2005 02:56 PM Chris W. Parker said the following: Matthew Weier O'Phinney mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 6:55 AM said: Mails are then queued to an MTA -- in our case, Postfix. This is the part I don't know how to do. Can you explain/show some code? Just use the mail function and it will get queued in Postfix. Or mail via SMTP to running postfix/sendmail/whatever. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney Zend Certified Engineer http://weierophinney.net/matthew/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Hello, on 09/12/2005 05:18 PM Matthew Weier O'Phinney said the following: Mails are then queued to an MTA -- in our case, Postfix. This is the part I don't know how to do. Can you explain/show some code? Just use the mail function and it will get queued in Postfix. Or mail via SMTP to running postfix/sendmail/whatever. If he is running postfix on the same machine that postfix is running, it does not make much sense to send the message via SMTP because it is a much slower way to do the same thing. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/ Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Manuel Lemos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 1:36 PM said: If he is running postfix on the same machine that postfix is running, it does not make much sense to send the message via SMTP because it is a much slower way to do the same thing. I'm not. I was hoping to glean a method for Postfix that I could apply to sendmail. Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Hello, on 09/12/2005 06:30 PM Chris W. Parker said the following: Manuel Lemos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 1:36 PM said: If he is running postfix on the same machine that postfix is running, it does not make much sense to send the message via SMTP because it is a much slower way to do the same thing. I'm not. I was hoping to glean a method for Postfix that I could apply to sendmail. Postfix is compatible with sendmail. It provides a wrapper program also named sendmail to act as a replacement. This is standard in Unix/Linux machines. Usually you only have on MTA program installed that can either be sendmail, postfix, qmail, exim, etc.. If you use the mail() function, it uses whatever is installed in your machine because by default it calls the sendmail program. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/ Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Manuel Lemos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:41 PM said: If you use the mail() function, it uses whatever is installed in your machine because by default it calls the sendmail program. I am aware of that but the problem I'm having is inconsistent mailings. For example, an email is supposed to be sent to me everytime someone creates a new account on our website but I only get about 1 out of 5 of these emails and I have no idea why. I was trying to take PHP out of the loop with regards to sending email so that I could rule out PHP as being the problem. Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Hello, on 09/12/2005 06:48 PM Chris W. Parker said the following: If you use the mail() function, it uses whatever is installed in your machine because by default it calls the sendmail program. I am aware of that but the problem I'm having is inconsistent mailings. For example, an email is supposed to be sent to me everytime someone creates a new account on our website but I only get about 1 out of 5 of these emails and I have no idea why. I was trying to take PHP out of the loop with regards to sending email so that I could rule out PHP as being the problem. If you use PHP mail() function it just calls the sendmail wrapper. If you loose messages, you should check the logs of the installed MTA. Your problem seems to be misconfiguration like you are not setting a valid return path address or your machine does not have a reverse record for its IP in the DNS. For certain kinds of problems, I usually recommend this class that comes with a wrapper function named smtp_mail(). It works like the mail() function but injects the message via the SMTP server. However, I am not sure if it will work any better if your problems are one of those that I suggested above. In any case, you can try it: http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage You also would need this: http://www.phpclasses.org/smtpclass -- Regards, Manuel Lemos PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/ Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
Manuel Lemos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 12, 2005 3:15 PM said: If you use PHP mail() function it just calls the sendmail wrapper. If you loose messages, you should check the logs of the installed MTA. Your problem seems to be misconfiguration like you are not setting a valid return path address or your machine does not have a reverse record for its IP in the DNS. Thanks for the suggestion(s). I will look into it. Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Best way to mass mail
* Manuel Lemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] : on 09/12/2005 05:18 PM Matthew Weier O'Phinney said the following: Mails are then queued to an MTA -- in our case, Postfix. This is the part I don't know how to do. Can you explain/show some code? Just use the mail function and it will get queued in Postfix. Or mail via SMTP to running postfix/sendmail/whatever. If he is running postfix on the same machine that postfix is running, it does not make much sense to send the message via SMTP because it is a much slower way to do the same thing. This was more in the instance that the server with the MTA is separate from the web server (which it often will be). You're right though -- if the MTA is on the same machine, just use the local executables. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney Zend Certified Engineer http://weierophinney.net/matthew/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
