RE: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-29 Thread Ryan A
  Humans are such a strange bunch :)


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No fucking cats! Kill all of them...keep only dogs and whales (to protect them)
The only cat I like is a pussy.


Damn... used up a bit of my swear words quota of the day...


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Re: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Daniel Brown

On 6/28/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We implemented a simple key = value array map of rude words to
sanitised equivalents:

e.g. breast = sandwich, felch = retrieve etc. etc.


   Today we have Chicken Marsala over angel hair pasta, which is a
chicken sandwich braised in Marsala wine

   Please keep me asandwich of the events as they transpire.


The added bonus is that you can flip the key/values in your array and
turn perfectly nice sentences into torrents of abuse ;)


   Sandy was a golden felcher


It's not perfect but it works for the most part. And it's fun to think
of all the rude words people might use!!


   We had a pretty decent thread on this about two weeks back, if
memory serves.  Check the archives and you can make your corporate
firewall cry.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Jochem Maas
Colin Guthrie wrote:
 Daniel Brown wrote:
 On 6/28/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We implemented a simple key = value array map of rude words to
 sanitised equivalents:

 e.g. breast = sandwich, felch = retrieve etc. etc.
Today we have Chicken Marsala over angel hair pasta, which is a
 chicken sandwich braised in Marsala wine
 
 Indeed. Your word list would have to allow certain words that could be
 used in genuine text. Other words which I wont post here would never be
 used in general conversation ;)

unless the general was in the heat of combat, there the implied language
would probably be justified. :-

 
Please keep me asandwich of the events as they transpire.
 
 This one wouldn't happen due to the stop words regexp.
 
 The added bonus is that you can flip the key/values in your array and
 turn perfectly nice sentences into torrents of abuse ;)
Sandy was a golden felcher
   ^-- this 'e' shouldn't be there according to the 
amp given above.

which means Sandy is not only on the cutting edge of porn, but also
web2.0 ready :-P

[think flickr] ... which begs the question of what to do with
multilingual situations. one languages' mundane word can be another's
rudest addition (dutch has a phonetically indentical word for 'flicker'
which has altogether different connotations than it does in english)

maybe we should all just shut the  up on a global level ... it is
said that silence is golden (which is a condrum of itself, what with it
be said and all)

 
 Exactly! Awesome eh!?! Hours of fun!

nothing like a little be of mind bending with words eh :-)

 
 Col.
 

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Re: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Daniel Brown

On 6/28/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Daniel Brown wrote:
 On 6/28/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We implemented a simple key = value array map of rude words to
 sanitised equivalents:

 e.g. breast = sandwich, felch = retrieve etc. etc.

Today we have Chicken Marsala over angel hair pasta, which is a
 chicken sandwich braised in Marsala wine

Indeed. Your word list would have to allow certain words that could be
used in genuine text. Other words which I wont post here would never be
used in general conversation ;)


   That's for fucking sure.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Dan

:O Bad Word  :P

Anyway, I would think that there should be some sort of library already out 
there that has this functionality.  This problem has been arround since the 
internet started.


- Dan

Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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On 6/28/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Daniel Brown wrote:
 On 6/28/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We implemented a simple key = value array map of rude words to
 sanitised equivalents:

 e.g. breast = sandwich, felch = retrieve etc. etc.

Today we have Chicken Marsala over angel hair pasta, which is a
 chicken sandwich braised in Marsala wine

Indeed. Your word list would have to allow certain words that could be
used in genuine text. Other words which I wont post here would never be
used in general conversation ;)


   That's for fucking sure.

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RE: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Daevid Vincent
 This problem has been arround since the internet started.

rant

problem?

They're just words!

Not sure why some people are so offended by them? My parents have even
purchased a little device that sits between their TV and DVD/VHS and
bleeps out bad words. And they're in their 60's and have no kids at
home.

It's certainly not kids/children who are offended. They're probably the
ones saying these words the most and writing them the most in your
forum/blog/whatever you're trying to protect.

If it's adults, then I'm sure it's nothing they've not heard before.

It just seems like a lot of work for little payoff and something that
will NEVER be accurate. If someone is that easily offended, then perhaps
they need to get out into the real world once and a while.

It seems to me also, you have liability issues. If you have some
filter mode, then what happens when a word gets through? Are you to
blame for offending some poor child/adults sensitive ears/eyes? A simple
age-check or disclaimer indicating you're not responsible for the
content of your posters comments seems more safe. 

But that's just my opinion.

/rant

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RE: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 17:57 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
  This problem has been arround since the internet started.
 
 rant
 
 problem?
 
 They're just words!
 
 Not sure why some people are so offended by them? My parents have even
 purchased a little device that sits between their TV and DVD/VHS and
 bleeps out bad words. And they're in their 60's and have no kids at
 home.
 
 It's certainly not kids/children who are offended. They're probably the
 ones saying these words the most and writing them the most in your
 forum/blog/whatever you're trying to protect.
 
 If it's adults, then I'm sure it's nothing they've not heard before.
 
 It just seems like a lot of work for little payoff and something that
 will NEVER be accurate. If someone is that easily offended, then perhaps
 they need to get out into the real world once and a while.
 
 It seems to me also, you have liability issues. If you have some
 filter mode, then what happens when a word gets through? Are you to
 blame for offending some poor child/adults sensitive ears/eyes? A simple
 age-check or disclaimer indicating you're not responsible for the
 content of your posters comments seems more safe. 
 
 But that's just my opinion.
 
 /rant

I've always found it amusing how much people get their nickers in a
twist over some words. I mean take the word fuck... what is so bad about
it? Is the word intercourse as offensive? Didn't think so. So it's not
the meaning. What about the word duck, it's has the same sound with the
exclusion of the leading consonant, but nobody takes offence if you run
around shouting duck (unless you're at a golf course :) So really,
words are only offensive to those who somehow infer a secondary meaning.
What that inference is, I've yet to understand. I can say the baby
pooped, had a bowel movement, or dirtied its diaper, but as soon as you
say the baby shit its diaper... people give you a funny look.

Humans are such a strange bunch :)

Cheers,
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RE: [PHP] Re: Swear filter ideas

2007-06-28 Thread Steve Edberg

At 9:27 PM -0400 6/28/07, Robert Cummings wrote:

On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 17:57 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

  This problem has been arround since the internet started.

 rant

 problem?

 They're just words!

 Not sure why some people are so offended by them? My parents have even
 purchased a little device that sits between their TV and DVD/VHS and
 bleeps out bad words. And they're in their 60's and have no kids at
 home.

 It's certainly not kids/children who are offended. They're probably the
 ones saying these words the most and writing them the most in your
 forum/blog/whatever you're trying to protect.

 If it's adults, then I'm sure it's nothing they've not heard before.

 It just seems like a lot of work for little payoff and something that
 will NEVER be accurate. If someone is that easily offended, then perhaps
 they need to get out into the real world once and a while.

 It seems to me also, you have liability issues. If you have some
 filter mode, then what happens when a word gets through? Are you to
 blame for offending some poor child/adults sensitive ears/eyes? A simple
 age-check or disclaimer indicating you're not responsible for the
 content of your posters comments seems more safe.

 But that's just my opinion.

 /rant


I've always found it amusing how much people get their nickers in a
twist over some words. I mean take the word fuck... what is so bad about
it? Is the word intercourse as offensive? Didn't think so. So it's not
the meaning. What about the word duck, it's has the same sound with the
exclusion of the leading consonant, but nobody takes offence if you run
around shouting duck (unless you're at a golf course :) So really,
words are only offensive to those who somehow infer a secondary meaning.
What that inference is, I've yet to understand. I can say the baby
pooped, had a bowel movement, or dirtied its diaper, but as soon as you
say the baby shit its diaper... people give you a funny look.

Humans are such a strange bunch :)



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