RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Ed Lazor]

> -Original Message-
> Was just wondering... Can you compile php with javascript support on a
> Game Boy? Lol

Nope, javascript is client-side and not part of PHP :P

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Alex Hogan]

[snip]
Perhaps we need a:

Subject: [Elite Guide] for the seasoned php poster.

Post everyweek :)

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Jim Grill]

Was just wondering... Can you compile php with javascript support on a Game
Boy? lol

Is it ok to just filter out this subject to deleted items now???

Jim Grill


- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT


> * Thus wrote Alex Hogan:
> > > Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).
> >
> > Point taken...
> >
> > > Common and well established list courtesies established years
> > > ago are expected to be suspended herewhy?
> >
> > Nope and that's wasn't my point.  My point was temperance.
> >
> > > Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and
> > > condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere
> > > else, which we have been asked to do several times. I was
> > > just here to learn and to help where I could.
> >
> > And I will be the first to admit that you have been one of the people on
> > this list that has answered every one of my questions, no matter how
> > stupid they have been. (And there has been some real boners)
>
> Perhaps we need a:
>
> Subject: [Elite Guide] for the seasoned php poster.
>
> Post everyweek :)
>
> Curt
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Curt Zirzow]

* Thus wrote Alex Hogan:
> > Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).
> 
> Point taken...
> 
> > Common and well established list courtesies established years 
> > ago are expected to be suspended herewhy? 
> 
> Nope and that's wasn't my point.  My point was temperance.
> 
> > Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and 
> > condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere 
> > else, which we have been asked to do several times. I was 
> > just here to learn and to help where I could.
> 
> And I will be the first to admit that you have been one of the people on
> this list that has answered every one of my questions, no matter how
> stupid they have been. (And there has been some real boners)

Perhaps we need a:

Subject: [Elite Guide] for the seasoned php poster.

Post everyweek :)

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Justin Patrin]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:21:00 -0400, Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, all I have to say is thank god for this newsgroup and the core group
> of people who answer most of the questions here. I can understand some
> crankiness now and then after answering the same questions over and over or
> dealing with people who don't read the online manual and come here to post
> first.
> 
> I've been slapped down once or twice myself for asking a stupid or vague
> question. But, it's no big deal because the people here have helped me out
> time and time again by answering many PHP questions and providing sample
> code over the past two years, so for that I'm grateful. It would be nice,
> however, if there were some way to post a link to the FAQ here, because
> unless someone specifically posts the URL, there's no way to know it exists
> or how to reach it.
> 

Which FAQ do you mean? I've started my own FAQ for frequently asked
questions. Perhaps I should be merging with the other.
https://www.reversefold.com/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=PHPFAQs

> I recommend that you first do a Google newsgroup search for any problems you
> have: http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg - 80% of the time I find the
> answer I need without having to post at all. Also, read the user-contributed
> comments in the online PHP manual, they are often very helpful and provide a
> lot of useful sample code. Plus, there are lots of PHP sites out there, some
> of which have PHP forums, such as sitepoint.com.
> 
> Monty
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Close)
> > Newsgroups: php.general
> > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:44:28 -0500
> > To: PHP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] javascript type cast
> 
> 
> >
> > Ok. I write most my web apps in php. I rarely will use js for
> > anything, but I needed it on this rare occasion. I didn't want to have
> > to post to the same php page to get the results to change, so I though
> > a little js would do the job.
> >
> > Being a php list, I thought that a few others would have run into the
> > same issue while doing this. Would it have made it better if I talked
> > a little about the php work that was being done on the page also?
> >
> > All this is doing is making me like php less and less. And what about
> > the newer users to the list? This also makes me not want to answer
> > other peoples questions either. I've also noticed that a lot of
> > answers to peoples questions get flamed on this list also. It's like
> > you think you're better than them and came take them down for whatever
> > reason.
> >
> > Yes, the question was OT and I knew it. Yes, I found the answer via
> > google 5-10 mins later. I had already searched a while before for it.
> > And I'm not going to go and get on a js list for one question I may
> > have once every 3 months. I figured someone here has ran into the same
> > situation before. Especially since type casting is a common thing
> > among most languages (even php).
> >
> > All I have to say is, sorry I asked. I really wasn't worth it.
> >
> > -Josh
> >
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Monty]

Well, all I have to say is thank god for this newsgroup and the core group
of people who answer most of the questions here. I can understand some
crankiness now and then after answering the same questions over and over or
dealing with people who don't read the online manual and come here to post
first. 

I've been slapped down once or twice myself for asking a stupid or vague
question. But, it's no big deal because the people here have helped me out
time and time again by answering many PHP questions and providing sample
code over the past two years, so for that I'm grateful. It would be nice,
however, if there were some way to post a link to the FAQ here, because
unless someone specifically posts the URL, there's no way to know it exists
or how to reach it.

I recommend that you first do a Google newsgroup search for any problems you
have: http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg - 80% of the time I find the
answer I need without having to post at all. Also, read the user-contributed
comments in the online PHP manual, they are often very helpful and provide a
lot of useful sample code. Plus, there are lots of PHP sites out there, some
of which have PHP forums, such as sitepoint.com.

Monty

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Close)
> Newsgroups: php.general
> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:44:28 -0500
> To: PHP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [PHP] javascript type cast
> 
> Ok. I write most my web apps in php. I rarely will use js for
> anything, but I needed it on this rare occasion. I didn't want to have
> to post to the same php page to get the results to change, so I though
> a little js would do the job.
> 
> Being a php list, I thought that a few others would have run into the
> same issue while doing this. Would it have made it better if I talked
> a little about the php work that was being done on the page also?
> 
> All this is doing is making me like php less and less. And what about
> the newer users to the list? This also makes me not want to answer
> other peoples questions either. I've also noticed that a lot of
> answers to peoples questions get flamed on this list also. It's like
> you think you're better than them and came take them down for whatever
> reason.
> 
> Yes, the question was OT and I knew it. Yes, I found the answer via
> google 5-10 mins later. I had already searched a while before for it.
> And I'm not going to go and get on a js list for one question I may
> have once every 3 months. I figured someone here has ran into the same
> situation before. Especially since type casting is a common thing
> among most languages (even php).
> 
> All I have to say is, sorry I asked. I really wasn't worth it.
> 
> -Josh
> 

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
... flame on and on and on and on ...
[/snip]

It must be the heat :)

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Ed Lazor]

The person starting this thread has been flogged.  The flogger has been
flogged.  The flogging floggers flogger has been flogged.

And now, back to the further adventures of PHP...


Hint:  please kill lame thread



> -Original Message-
> From: John Nichel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT
> 
> On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following tid-
> bit
> of information :
> > However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
> > aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
> > programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
> > don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
> > they have been hacking code for a while?
> >
> > This is a general list.
> 
> And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie
> Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how to
> find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use that
> advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's been
> asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help those who
> are not going to help themselves?
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[John Nichel]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 15:38, Josh Close offered up the following tid-bit 
of information :
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:30:20 -0400, John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following
> > tid-bit
> >
> > of information :
> > > However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
> > > aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
> > > programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that
> > > they don't get the same consideration that those get who it is
> > > apparent that they have been hacking code for a while?
> > >
> > > This is a general list.
> >
> > And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie
> > Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how
> > to find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use
> > that advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's
> > been asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help
> > those who are not going to help themselves?
>
> Well, you shouldn't. But you did take the time to flame on and on and
> on and on (not you specifically).

Oh, I like being knee deep in the fray.  We practice tough love on this 
list.  ;)

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Josh Close]

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:30:20 -0400, John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following tid-bit
> of information :
> > However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
> > aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
> > programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
> > don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
> > they have been hacking code for a while?
> >
> > This is a general list.
> 
> And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie
> Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how to
> find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use that
> advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's been
> asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help those who
> are not going to help themselves?

Well, you shouldn't. But you did take the time to flame on and on and
on and on (not you specifically).

> 
> 
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Josh Close]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 14:15:32 -0500, Alex Hogan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > All I have to say is, sorry I asked.
> 
> OK.., now you're really making me want to take a poke at you.
> 
> You posted off topic, knew it was off topic, you got spanked for it.
> 
> Don't make things worse by whining.

Not trying to whine for you. I was just surprised that people would
take several hours out of their day to complain about this, instead of
just saying it's OT and to not post OT.

I won't happen again, so you can stop whining.

-Josh

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[John Nichel]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:54, Alex Hogan offered up the following tid-bit 
of information :
> However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
> aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
> programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
> don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
> they have been hacking code for a while?
>
> This is a general list.

And when 'newbies' sign up to this list, they get a copy of the 'Newbie 
Guide', with a wealth of information on how to ask smart questions, how to 
find answers to common problems, etc.  If they are not going to use that 
advice, and just blast the list with an OT question, or one that's been 
asked a zillion times, why should we take the time out to help those who 
are not going to help themselves?

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Alex Hogan]

> All I have to say is, sorry I asked.

OK.., now you're really making me want to take a poke at you.

You posted off topic, knew it was off topic, you got spanked for it.



Don't make things worse by whining.



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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Jason Wong]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 02:44, Josh Close wrote:

> Being a php list, I thought that a few others would have run into the
> same issue while doing this. Would it have made it better if I talked
> a little about the php work that was being done on the page also?

OT is OT, trying to justify it by linking it to PHP through a dozen degrees of 
separation will not change that fact.

> Yes, the question was OT and I knew it. Yes, I found the answer via
> google 5-10 mins later. I had already searched a while before for it.
> And I'm not going to go and get on a js list for one question I may
> have once every 3 months. I figured someone here has ran into the same
> situation before. 

There you go, that says it all. I'm too lazy to subscribe to another list so 
I'll use the PHP list as a general dumping ground.

> Especially since type casting is a common thing
> among most languages (even php).

And most people on this list eat as well ... whoops I'm repeating myself.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[raditha dissanayake]

Josh Close wrote:
Ok. I write most my web apps in php. I rarely will use js for
anything, but I needed it on this rare occasion. I didn't want to have
to post to the same php page to get the results to change, so I though
a little js would do the job.
Being a php list, I thought that a few others would have run into the
same issue while doing this. Would it have made it better if I talked
a little about the php work that was being done on the page also?
All this is doing is making me like php less and less. 

ah I get it because you can't understand javascript you dislike PHP.
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[John Nichel]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 14:39, Jay Blanchard offered up the following 
tid-bit of information :
> [snip]
> I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
> I'm using at the time has demanded.
>
> I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
> condescending lists I've ever been on.
> [/snip]
>
> Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).

Or the qmail listsor usenet.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[raditha dissanayake]

Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
I'm using at the time has demanded.
I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
condescending lists I've ever been on. 
[/snip]


Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and
condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere else,
which we have been asked to do several times. I was just here to learn
and to help where I could.
 

If all those who are curt and Curt and condensceding go away there will 
be a lot of questions but very few answers in this list.


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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Alex Hogan]

> Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s).

Point taken...

> Common and well established list courtesies established years 
> ago are expected to be suspended herewhy? 

Nope and that's wasn't my point.  My point was temperance.

> Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and 
> condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere 
> else, which we have been asked to do several times. I was 
> just here to learn and to help where I could.

And I will be the first to admit that you have been one of the people on
this list that has answered every one of my questions, no matter how
stupid they have been. (And there has been some real boners)

However there is a difference between list courtesy and blatant
aggression.  I understand that there are going to be more newbie's to
programming here than on most language lists.  Does this mean that they
don't get the same consideration that those get who it is apparent that
they have been hacking code for a while?

This is a general list.


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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Josh Close]

Ok. I write most my web apps in php. I rarely will use js for
anything, but I needed it on this rare occasion. I didn't want to have
to post to the same php page to get the results to change, so I though
a little js would do the job.

Being a php list, I thought that a few others would have run into the
same issue while doing this. Would it have made it better if I talked
a little about the php work that was being done on the page also?

All this is doing is making me like php less and less. And what about
the newer users to the list? This also makes me not want to answer
other peoples questions either. I've also noticed that a lot of
answers to peoples questions get flamed on this list also. It's like
you think you're better than them and came take them down for whatever
reason.

Yes, the question was OT and I knew it. Yes, I found the answer via
google 5-10 mins later. I had already searched a while before for it.
And I'm not going to go and get on a js list for one question I may
have once every 3 months. I figured someone here has ran into the same
situation before. Especially since type casting is a common thing
among most languages (even php).

All I have to say is, sorry I asked. I really wasn't worth it.

-Josh



On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 13:09:19 -0500, Alex Hogan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
> I'm using at the time has demanded.
> 
> I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
> condescending lists I've ever been on.  Perhaps it's because the long
> time users don't realize they're being so, (unless of course you read
> the FAQ about asking smart questions which they are so happy to throw at
> you), or maybe it's because they are so much better at this particular
> technology that they don't have to even be civil.
> 
> What ever the reason it leaves a bad impression for anyone embracing php
> and wanting to gather additional information that can sometimes only be
> obtained from an individual with experience and not a book. (imagine
> that)
> 
> Now I fully expect that some one will come back and say something like,
> "Well you don't have to stay on this list" or something equally as
> moronic.  Quite frankly I don't care.  Flame away...
> 
> Over the last seven months that I have been on this list I have seen the
> same questions addressed several times.  Sometimes worded different, but
> nothing really new.  Maybe that is what creates such animosity to the
> newer members of this list from the older ones.  Then again maybe it's
> nothing more than the age old trait of chastising someone else to give
> themselves a feeling of importance.
> 
> My point is a little temperance goes a lot farther and shows a lot more
> than self importance.
> 
> BTW.., Yes I'm top posting so go ahead and flame away for that too.
> 
> alex hogan
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vail, Warren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:38 PM
> > To: 'Jason Wong'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [PHP] javascript type cast
> >
> > I, for one, am not convinced that this all that far off topic.
> >
> > Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction
> > with server side PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem
> > any more off-topic than dealing with database questions about MySQL.
> >
> > I am probably like most PHP developers, with a very weak
> > knowledge of Javascript, and while that makes the question
> > "feel" like being off-topic, I'm not sure it should be.  I
> > wish I knew of another list I could recommend as a resource
> > for Javascript, but I don't, and that is probably a result of
> > knowing so little.
> >
> > Only abuse occurring here, IMHO is the content police's
> > treatment of Josh.
> > 
> > Warren Vail
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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
I'm using at the time has demanded.

I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
condescending lists I've ever been on. 
[/snip]

Hmmm, you should see the C++ newsgroup(s). 

Actually I would have to say that when it comes to lists (I myself and
many others here are on several) that this one and perhaps the MySQL
general list get more OT posts. Since PHP can be a entry point for first
time programmers it also ramps up the number of posts where the user has
not been familiarized with terms and actions such as RTFM, STFW or STFA.
Common and well established list courtesies established years ago are
expected to be suspended herewhy? 

Having said that I suppose that those of us who are curt and
condescending (of which I am one) can shut up or go somewhere else,
which we have been asked to do several times. I was just here to learn
and to help where I could.

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Alex Hogan]

I have been on a number of lists over the years, as what ever technology
I'm using at the time has demanded.

I would have to say that this list is one of the most curt and
condescending lists I've ever been on.  Perhaps it's because the long
time users don't realize they're being so, (unless of course you read
the FAQ about asking smart questions which they are so happy to throw at
you), or maybe it's because they are so much better at this particular
technology that they don't have to even be civil.

What ever the reason it leaves a bad impression for anyone embracing php
and wanting to gather additional information that can sometimes only be
obtained from an individual with experience and not a book. (imagine
that)

Now I fully expect that some one will come back and say something like,
"Well you don't have to stay on this list" or something equally as
moronic.  Quite frankly I don't care.  Flame away...

Over the last seven months that I have been on this list I have seen the
same questions addressed several times.  Sometimes worded different, but
nothing really new.  Maybe that is what creates such animosity to the
newer members of this list from the older ones.  Then again maybe it's
nothing more than the age old trait of chastising someone else to give
themselves a feeling of importance.

My point is a little temperance goes a lot farther and shows a lot more
than self importance.



BTW.., Yes I'm top posting so go ahead and flame away for that too.

alex hogan


> -Original Message-
> From: Vail, Warren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: 'Jason Wong'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] javascript type cast
> 
> I, for one, am not convinced that this all that far off topic.
> 
> Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction 
> with server side PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem 
> any more off-topic than dealing with database questions about MySQL.
> 
> I am probably like most PHP developers, with a very weak 
> knowledge of Javascript, and while that makes the question 
> "feel" like being off-topic, I'm not sure it should be.  I 
> wish I knew of another list I could recommend as a resource 
> for Javascript, but I don't, and that is probably a result of 
> knowing so little.
> 
> Only abuse occurring here, IMHO is the content police's 
> treatment of Josh.
> 
> Warren Vail 
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Jason Wong]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 01:38, Vail, Warren wrote:

> I, for one, am not convinced that this all that far off topic.

OK if I asked the question "how do I do type casting in Cobol?", would you 
agree that it is OT? Cobol has nothing to do with the zend engine, Javascript 
has nothing to do with the zend engine so where' the relationship with PHP?

> Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server side
> PHP, is to use Javascript, 

I would have thought links and forms were more common. Anyway you're missing 
the point, the question was OT, period. It was not asking about interaction 
with PHP, it was a Javascript question, pure and simple. Comprendez?

> it doesn't seem any more off-topic than dealing
> with database questions about MySQL.

OT questions come and go, they are asked and get answered, but what is 
annoying is the weak justification given by the OP for something that is 
blatantly OT. Hence my rebuttal.

> I am probably like most PHP developers, with a very weak knowledge of
> Javascript, and while that makes the question "feel" like being off-topic,
> I'm not sure it should be.  I wish I knew of another list I could recommend
> as a resource for Javascript, but I don't, and that is probably a result of
> knowing so little.

google > javascript weenie

> Only abuse occurring here, IMHO is the content police's treatment of Josh.

If it pleases you.

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast OT

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server
side
PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem any more off-topic than
dealing
with database questions about MySQL.
[/snip]

Actually the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server
side PHP is http requests, JavaScript is a little more off topic. Just
picking nits, but we all know that I am an arse! ;) And many MySQL (or
plain old SQL) questions get flamed too.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[raditha dissanayake]

Matthew Sims wrote:
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:38, Josh Close wrote:
   

Yes, but most php users do some web programming and might have come
across this before.
 

Most people on this list eat as well, but that doesn't make this list an
appropriate forum for discussing food.
   

Unless it's about PEAR.
 

or the muscat API.
;)
 


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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[raditha dissanayake]

Vail, Warren wrote:
I, for one, am not convinced that this all that far off topic.
Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server side
PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem any more off-topic than dealing
with database questions about MySQL.
 

unfortunately it's not quite so. javascript is javascript and has 
nothing at all to do with php. Perhaps a good place to ask questions 
about javascript might be the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

pure mysql questions are off topic for this list as well - however you 
will notice that most of the questions are about the PHP mysql API pure 
sql questions rarely get polite answers.

Only abuse occurring here, IMHO is the content police's treatment of Josh.
 

Well it's hardly abuse While i symphathise with josh - the point is that 
when there are lots of off topic discussions taking place in a list it 
loses it's value. If you posted these questions on a perl list or the 
qmail list you will see how polite the content police in this list 
really is.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[John Nichel]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 13:38, Vail, Warren offered up the following 
tid-bit of information :
> I, for one, am not convinced that this all that far off topic.
>
> Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server
> side PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem any more off-topic than
> dealing with database questions about MySQL.

Most DB questions you see here come from php problems...or people who don't 
realize 'proper mailing list conduct'.  But the OP stated that he knew it 
was OT, and decided to ask here anyway, instead of on a JS mailing list, or 
going to Google (I say this, because five minutes after his original post 
he posted back that he found the answer)

> I am probably like most PHP developers, with a very weak knowledge of
> Javascript, and while that makes the question "feel" like being
> off-topic, I'm not sure it should be.  I wish I knew of another list I
> could recommend as a resource for Javascript, but I don't, and that is
> probably a result of knowing so little.

Most PHP developers I know, and have worked with over the past 6 or 7 years 
have a pretty strong grasp of JS, but that doesn't change the point.  I 
know quite a few on this list come from a Perl background, but it would 
still be bad form of me to pose a Perl question to this list.

> Only abuse occurring here, IMHO is the content police's treatment of
> Josh.

We're under a high security alertrougher treatment is allowed.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Matthew Sims]

> On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:38, Josh Close wrote:
>> Yes, but most php users do some web programming and might have come
>> across this before.
>
> Most people on this list eat as well, but that doesn't make this list an
> appropriate forum for discussing food.
>

Unless it's about PEAR.

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RE: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Vail, Warren]

I, for one, am not convinced that this all that far off topic.

Since the accepted method to generate browser interaction with server side
PHP, is to use Javascript, it doesn't seem any more off-topic than dealing
with database questions about MySQL.

I am probably like most PHP developers, with a very weak knowledge of
Javascript, and while that makes the question "feel" like being off-topic,
I'm not sure it should be.  I wish I knew of another list I could recommend
as a resource for Javascript, but I don't, and that is probably a result of
knowing so little.

Only abuse occurring here, IMHO is the content police's treatment of Josh.

Warren Vail


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On Wednesday 04 August 2004 01:06, Josh Close wrote:
> Wow, no need to be an ass. I just wanted a little help and this list 
> is usually pretty friendly and willing to help. but I guess not.

So you're saying you're taking advantage of (or abusing) the list's
readiness 
to help by asking OT questions?

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Jason Wong]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 01:06, Josh Close wrote:
> Wow, no need to be an ass. I just wanted a little help and this list
> is usually pretty friendly and willing to help. but I guess not.

So you're saying you're taking advantage of (or abusing) the list's readiness 
to help by asking OT questions?

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Josh Close]

Wow, no need to be an ass. I just wanted a little help and this list
is usually pretty friendly and willing to help. but I guess not.



On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 01:01:47 +0800, Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:38, Josh Close wrote:
> > Yes, but most php users do some web programming and might have come
> > across this before.
> 
> Most people on this list eat as well, but that doesn't make this list an
> appropriate forum for discussing food.
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Jason Wong]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 00:38, Josh Close wrote:
> Yes, but most php users do some web programming and might have come
> across this before.

Most people on this list eat as well, but that doesn't make this list an 
appropriate forum for discussing food.

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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[Josh Close]

Yes, but most php users do some web programming and might have come
across this before.

-Josh

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:34:40 -0400, John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:28, Josh Close wrote:
> > P.S. I'm doing this in a php page... that's why I'm asking here.
> 
> But this doesn't make it a php problem.
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Re: [PHP] javascript type cast

[John Nichel]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:28, Josh Close wrote:
> P.S. I'm doing this in a php page... that's why I'm asking here.

But this doesn't make it a php problem.

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