Re: [PHP] php DBMS
We have been looking at implmenting Prevalyer for PHP but it to us seems impossible to do as the PHP engine is not designed like an application server. To add to this we are now in the process of writing an entpire PHP app server and will then be writing the Prevalyer layer as well as DB abstraction layers for PHP5. Devraj Richard Lynch wrote: Chris W. Parker wrote: Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? They have licensing issues with MySQL, I guess. I'd go with http://postgresql.org in that case, rather than roll my own, but that's just me :-) -- Devraj Mukherjee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eternity Technologies Pty. Ltd. ACN 107 600 975 P O Box 5949 Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Australia Voice: +61-2-69717131 / Fax: +61-2-69251039 http://www.eternitytechnologies.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Richard Lynch wrote: Chris W. Parker wrote: Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? They have licensing issues with MySQL, I guess. I'd go with http://postgresql.org in that case, rather than roll my own, but that's just me :-) thats only because you've never used firebird ;-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Chris W. Parker wrote: Chris W. Parker on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:38 AM said: Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? Now for something more constructive: I found this http://www.c-worker.ch/txtdbapi/index_eng.php. if Gerben was to use this then why wouldn't he want to use SQLite, which is the same idea (SQL interface to flatfile storage) but written by the PHP devs (in C, so its much faster + I think you can assume the devs really know what they are doing) and included as std. in PHP5? that said the TXTDB package does look good and if you are using PHP4 then maybe you should go with that instead (PHP4 does not have SQLite AFAICR) Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Jochem Maas wrote: Chris W. Parker wrote: Chris W. Parker on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:38 AM said: Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? Now for something more constructive: I found this http://www.c-worker.ch/txtdbapi/index_eng.php. if Gerben was to use this then why wouldn't he want to use SQLite, which is the same idea (SQL interface to flatfile storage) but written by the PHP devs (in C, so its much faster + I think you can assume the devs really know what they are doing) and included as std. in PHP5? sqlite isn't written by the php devs. It's simply included in the distributions; just like bcmath is. SQLite itself is a free OS library, usable by pretty much everyone that said the TXTDB package does look good and if you are using PHP4 then maybe you should go with that instead (PHP4 does not have SQLite AFAICR) Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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... sqlite isn't written by the php devs. It's simply included in the distributions; just like bcmath is. SQLite itself is a free OS library, usable by pretty much everyone my apologies - i was under the impression that some/few of the php devs were also responsible for SQLite. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. I know this is not the most effecient way, but I'm not planning to use it for heavy weight database-driven-application. I just want a way to store simple data and I thought this SQL would be a nice interface. Since it could be easelly ported to mysql. John Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerben wrote: I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. I'm currently trying to put something together, but this would be a waste of time if it already exists. SQLite is probably what you're after. It comes with PHP5 and can be built into PHP4, iirc. Of course, I'm assuming what you mean by fully implemented is included with PHP, not written with it. A database written in PHP would not be good, imo. -- ---John Holmes... Amazon Wishlist: www.amazon.com/o/registry/3BEXC84AB3A5E/ php|architect: The Magazine for PHP Professionals www.phparch.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php DBMS
Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php DBMS
Chris W. Parker on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:38 AM said: Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? Now for something more constructive: I found this http://www.c-worker.ch/txtdbapi/index_eng.php. Chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php DBMS
Chris W. Parker wrote: Gerben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:22 AM said: Thanks for all your responses, but I think I wasn't clear enough of my intentions. Actually, that what I'm looking for; A database engine written in PHP. Even if something like this did exist why would you want it over MySQL? They have licensing issues with MySQL, I guess. I'd go with http://postgresql.org in that case, rather than roll my own, but that's just me :-) -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Gerben wrote: I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. I'm currently trying to put something together, but this would be a waste of time if it already exists. SQLite is probably what you're after. It comes with PHP5 and can be built into PHP4, iirc. Of course, I'm assuming what you mean by fully implemented is included with PHP, not written with it. A database written in PHP would not be good, imo. -- ---John Holmes... Amazon Wishlist: www.amazon.com/o/registry/3BEXC84AB3A5E/ php|architect: The Magazine for PHP Professionals www.phparch.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 11:31, Gerben wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. I'm currently trying to put something together, but this would be a waste of time if it already exists. Does MySQL cost money? I thought it was open source and available at no cost. Bret -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Bret Hughes wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 11:31, Gerben wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented what do you mean by 'fully' - there are lots of DB drivers implemented (as extensions) for php. in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. sqlite might be interesting for you. I'm currently trying to put something together, but this would be a waste of time if it already exists. what kind of thing are you trying to put together - I assume your not trying to build a database engine in php??? Does MySQL cost money? I thought it was open source and available at no cost. true its free, but you can also run a comcercial version which gives you indemnity and support and stuff Google for instance are known to run MySQL, companies like that like to have support contracts - at MySQL they are glad to oblige, just unlike some other very fairplaying non-antitrust type businesses they don't force feed you the license fee :-) Bret -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Gerben wrote: I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. MySQL is free... So is PostgreSQL: http://postgresql.org But both packages are external software packages with API modules to use with PHP. I'm currently trying to put something together, but this would be a waste of time if it already exists. [shudder] I also sure hope you're not trying to implement an DBMS in PHP. Perhaps if you explained your concerns/issues for using MySQL as a separate package, the list could better advise you. At the moment, I think you're just a little naive or under-informed, if not a bit crazy. :-) :-) :-) PHP + MySQL is free and running on a zillion sites. Go with that. It works. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Quoting Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gerben wrote: I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. MySQL is free... MySQL is free for use with applications that are themselves open source. If you're going to use it with a commercial or non-open-source application, you need to buy a commercial license. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 13:35, Jochem Maas wrote: Bret Hughes wrote: Does MySQL cost money? I thought it was open source and available at no cost. true its free, but you can also run a comcercial version which gives you indemnity and support and stuff Google for instance are known to run MySQL, companies like that like to have support contracts - at MySQL they are glad to oblige, just unlike some other very fairplaying non-antitrust type businesses they don't force feed you the license fee :-) So if he is looking for a non licensed dbms MySQL would still work albeit without formal support lie the rest of the open source world. Bret -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php DBMS
Hello, on 02/28/2005 07:21 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: I'm wondering if there is any DBMS, like MySQL, which is (fully) implemented in php. This so you don't have to buy a MySQL database. MySQL is free... MySQL is free for use with applications that are themselves open source. If you're going to use it with a commercial or non-open-source application, you need to buy a commercial license. You are confused. You only need to buy a commercial license if you want to distribute MySQL server itself with closed source applications. If you develop closed source applications but you do not distribute MySQL with them, you do not need to buy any licenses. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/ Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
