Re: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-21 Thread Philip Thompson
On Oct 20, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Michael Sims wrote:
Jonel Rienton wrote:
Hi guys, I just like to ask those using Macs here as to what editor
and/or IDE they are using for writing PHP codes.
I don't personally use Mac OS X, but let me throw in a recommendation 
for jEdit
(www.jedit.org).  It's Java based, hence cross-platform, and extremely 
powerful.  I
use it on Windows and couldn't live without it.  I have installed it 
on my friend's
iMac long enough to see that it works, but not long enough to know of 
any
platform-specific issues and/or gotchas.
I use Xcode to do all my coding.
Just a side-comment: in general, OS X users enjoy/use Cocoa-based 
applications over Java-based. Cocoa provides the OS X Experience with 
the native aqua interface and other cool features that Java cannot 
always supply. (Not intending to start a discussion... just informing 
those non-Mac users.)

~P
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RE: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-21 Thread Michael Sims
Philip Thompson wrote:
 I don't personally use Mac OS X, but let me throw in a
 recommendation for jEdit (www.jedit.org).  It's Java based, hence
[...]
 Just a side-comment: in general, OS X users enjoy/use Cocoa-based
 applications over Java-based. Cocoa provides the OS X Experience
 with the native aqua interface and other cool features that Java
 cannot always supply. (Not intending to start a discussion... just
 informing those non-Mac users.)

It's also been my experience that Windows users prefer pure Win32-based applications
over Java-based ones as well.  However, IMHO jEdit is so flexible and powerful, and
so completely out-classes every other *free* Windows based IDE I have used, that I'm
willing to put up with whatever headaches using a Java based program imposes (which
isn't much if you have a reasonably fast machine).  And it is possible on Windows to
configure jEdit so that it's look and feel is very much native Win32.  I'm not sure
if this is possible on OS X or not, but I'd be surprised if it weren't.

Also, this may not be an advantage for the average joe, but for me the
cross-platform capability that Java brings is a major advantage.  I'm a Windows user
now, but eventually I plan to switch to OS X (once I have the cash).  I like the
fact that I can use my favorite IDE, including all the plugins/customizations/macros
that I've built up over the last year or so, on OS X or Linux with a minimum of
hassle.

As usual, this is all IMHO and YMMV... :)

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Re: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-20 Thread Brent Baisley
BBEdit, of course. I use it for just about all my coding, not just php. 
Not free, but a free fully functional demo is available. I forget if 
the demo is a certain number of launches or a time limit.
I have looked into Zend Studio and Eclipse, but they are a bit slow on 
a laptop.

On Oct 20, 2004, at 4:12 PM, Jonel Rienton wrote:
Hi guys, I just like to ask those using Macs here as to what editor 
and/or
IDE they are using for writing PHP codes.

Thanks and regards to all.
Jonel
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Re: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-20 Thread James McGlinn
Hi Jonel,
Hi guys, I just like to ask those using Macs here as to what editor 
and/or
IDE they are using for writing PHP codes.
I'm using Zend Studio (ZDE) - it works as well as any I've tried.  It's 
significantly faster than Eclipse too (on a G4 PowerBook 1.33Ghz/512MB 
RAM).

James McGlinn
Project Manager
BCom, BSc, Zend Certified Engineer (PHP)
Servers.co.nz Ltd
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Zealand
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RE: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-20 Thread Michael Sims
Jonel Rienton wrote:
 Hi guys, I just like to ask those using Macs here as to what editor
 and/or IDE they are using for writing PHP codes.

I don't personally use Mac OS X, but let me throw in a recommendation for jEdit
(www.jedit.org).  It's Java based, hence cross-platform, and extremely powerful.  I
use it on Windows and couldn't live without it.  I have installed it on my friend's
iMac long enough to see that it works, but not long enough to know of any
platform-specific issues and/or gotchas.

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Re: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-20 Thread Larry E . Ullman
Hi guys, I just like to ask those using Macs here as to what editor 
and/or
IDE they are using for writing PHP codes.
BBEdit is generally consider to be one of the best (note: I said one 
of the best, not best, so let's not start about how emacs, vi, and 
vim are better) text editors available on any platform. It's very easy 
to use yet powerful (supports grep, works with Xcode, has command line 
tools, etc). The new version 8 ties into Apache, letting you test PHP 
scripts in the application. It's a text editor, not an IDE, though. 
There are PHP- and SQL-specific libraries built in so that it 
recognizes function names and such.

Larry
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Re: [PHP] Mac OS X and Editor

2004-10-20 Thread Daniel Schierbeck
James McGlinn wrote:
I'm using Zend Studio (ZDE) - it works as well as any I've tried.  It's 
significantly faster than Eclipse too (on a G4 PowerBook 1.33Ghz/512MB 
RAM).
Hmm, maybe (have you tried out Eclipse 3.0?), but I still find the 
interface of Eclipse superior to Zend Studio's (that's just plain ugly 
and confusing) - plus, it's free! And open-source! Yay!

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