Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
On 25/10/06, Ed Lazor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted to give some feedback on PHP 5 hosting in case it helps someone. I signed up with DreamHost last Thursday. I also signed up with OCS Solutions to compare the two services. I also maintain a server with CalPop. When I signed up with Dreamhost, I discovered that you have to fill out a form and fax it to them, along with a rubbing of your credit card. Personally, I found that part rather annoying. They say it's for added security, but I've never had to do that with any other online transactions that I've done. OCS Solutions had me pay for a year up front, which always makes me nervous when checking out a new provider, but they do offer a money back guarantee. Actually, both providers offered a money back guarantee. DreamHost's is 97 days. That's pretty good. They require that you fax them a rub or your credit card?!? I certainly wouldn't do that! Cost-wise, both companies were fairly inexpensive. I ran a Google search for DreamHost Coupon and found a coupon that eliminated a majority of the up front cost. Actually, I was pretty surprised. They give you a free domain registration that includes private whois for free. After the coupon, I paid $9.90 and covered the start-up fee (normally $45), the first month of service, and the domain registration. It feels like I paid for a domain registration and got free hosting for a month. Nice! My account with DreamHost was created on Monday. Technically, it took 5 days to get my account set up. That's the longest set up delay I've ever experienced with any host provider. OCS Solutions called me an hour after signing up and had my account setup shortly thereafter. That's all it should take. I also registered a domain when signing up with OCS Solutions. The whois was wrong. Somehow it ended up showing as registered to one of their employees, but I called and they quickly fixed it. The account was set up under the wrong username, but they fixed that quickly, along with problems with cpanel when it doesn't handle the name change correctly. Mistakes were made, but I was really pleased with how easy it was to get help and I was really happy with how much people obviously cared about helping out. After signing up with DreamHost, the domain that I'd registered with them wasn't working. I was exploring their control panel to figure out the problem when I came upon a DNS management page. The page automatically identified and fixed the problem. That was impressive. Also, I started exploring the DreamHost forums after signing up, something I almost wish I'd done beforehand. I found a lot of posts from very disgruntled customers. It sounds as if they've been running into problems lately on their servers. People complain A LOT about the lack of phone support from DreamHost... you have to submit a trouble ticket for everything. If your account subscription is high enough, they offer a limited number of call backs. The worst part was reading debates between the really happy and the really unhappy DreamHost clients. A lot of the discussions boiled down to verbal attacks between customers. I'm honestly surprised DreamHost didn't intervene. One last thing with OCS, the plan I started on turned out to be insufficient for my needs. I talked with them and they came up with a new plan that does everything I want and just charged me a little more to cover the difference. End result so far... CalPop: I've always had problems with the initial set up of servers at CalPop. Talking with their tech support on the phone is a nightmare; there's something wrong with their phone lines (seems like a really bad voice over IP solution). It usually takes way too many emails to resolve problems. I've also experienced a lot of hardware failures, which makes me wonder about the quality of parts they purchase. Once the server works though, everything seems to settle down until the next problem shows up. DreamHost: Best prices, low service. It seems like DreamHost is run by and tailored toward experienced techies. That's fine, I can work with that. I'm willing to try working with limited phone support. I'm really only concerned with delays I might experience when a problem shows up in something that's mission critical. Beyond that, there are a lot of features available here that aren't elsewhere. I'm getting great value for my money. OCS Solutions: Good prices, but you have to pay up front. Best customer service I've experienced from an ISP so far. I feel a lot more comfortable using them for anything mission critical. Dotan http://what-is-what.com/what_is/java.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/345/metallica.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
On Fri, October 27, 2006 7:18 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 25/10/06, Ed Lazor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I signed up with Dreamhost, I discovered that you have to fill out a form and fax it to them, along with a rubbing of your credit card. Personally, I found that part rather annoying. They say it's They require that you fax them a rub or your credit card?!? I certainly wouldn't do that! I *think* they do this only when the credit card does not sail through automatically. Like if you give a shipping address different from your home, or your cell-phone instead of home phone, and then the ultra-stringent CC checks they have turned on kick back the transaction as suspect. Or so they explained it to me, when I had the same reaction. At that point, I suspect you'd be faster to start over and be more careful about matching up your CC input with what the bank has on file PS A Sharpie does not make a good rubbing tool, no matter how gently you try to press. :-) -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
Hi, I wanted to give some feedback on PHP 5 hosting in case it helps someone. I signed up with DreamHost last Thursday. I also signed up with OCS Solutions to compare the two services. I also maintain a server with CalPop. When I signed up with Dreamhost, I discovered that you have to fill out a form and fax it to them, along with a rubbing of your credit card. Personally, I found that part rather annoying. They say it's for added security, but I've never had to do that with any other online transactions that I've done. OCS Solutions had me pay for a year up front, which always makes me nervous when checking out a new provider, but they do offer a money back guarantee. Actually, both providers offered a money back guarantee. DreamHost's is 97 days. That's pretty good. Cost-wise, both companies were fairly inexpensive. I ran a Google search for DreamHost Coupon and found a coupon that eliminated a majority of the up front cost. Actually, I was pretty surprised. They give you a free domain registration that includes private whois for free. After the coupon, I paid $9.90 and covered the start-up fee (normally $45), the first month of service, and the domain registration. It feels like I paid for a domain registration and got free hosting for a month. My account with DreamHost was created on Monday. Technically, it took 5 days to get my account set up. That's the longest set up delay I've ever experienced with any host provider. OCS Solutions called me an hour after signing up and had my account setup shortly thereafter. I also registered a domain when signing up with OCS Solutions. The whois was wrong. Somehow it ended up showing as registered to one of their employees, but I called and they quickly fixed it. The account was set up under the wrong username, but they fixed that quickly, along with problems with cpanel when it doesn't handle the name change correctly. Mistakes were made, but I was really pleased with how easy it was to get help and I was really happy with how much people obviously cared about helping out. After signing up with DreamHost, the domain that I'd registered with them wasn't working. I was exploring their control panel to figure out the problem when I came upon a DNS management page. The page automatically identified and fixed the problem. That was impressive. Also, I started exploring the DreamHost forums after signing up, something I almost wish I'd done beforehand. I found a lot of posts from very disgruntled customers. It sounds as if they've been running into problems lately on their servers. People complain A LOT about the lack of phone support from DreamHost... you have to submit a trouble ticket for everything. If your account subscription is high enough, they offer a limited number of call backs. The worst part was reading debates between the really happy and the really unhappy DreamHost clients. A lot of the discussions boiled down to verbal attacks between customers. I'm honestly surprised DreamHost didn't intervene. One last thing with OCS, the plan I started on turned out to be insufficient for my needs. I talked with them and they came up with a new plan that does everything I want and just charged me a little more to cover the difference. End result so far... CalPop: I've always had problems with the initial set up of servers at CalPop. Talking with their tech support on the phone is a nightmare; there's something wrong with their phone lines (seems like a really bad voice over IP solution). It usually takes way too many emails to resolve problems. I've also experienced a lot of hardware failures, which makes me wonder about the quality of parts they purchase. Once the server works though, everything seems to settle down until the next problem shows up. DreamHost: Best prices, low service. It seems like DreamHost is run by and tailored toward experienced techies. That's fine, I can work with that. I'm willing to try working with limited phone support. I'm really only concerned with delays I might experience when a problem shows up in something that's mission critical. Beyond that, there are a lot of features available here that aren't elsewhere. I'm getting great value for my money. OCS Solutions: Good prices, but you have to pay up front. Best customer service I've experienced from an ISP so far. I feel a lot more comfortable using them for anything mission critical. On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:12 PM, Kyle wrote: Hello, I would suggest dreamhost at www.dreamhost.com. Their prices look a bit hefty at first but there are referral codes all over the internet and you can end up saving $97. Their plans have tons of bandwidth and space and I haven't had any trouble with it. But I would suggest them highly, their service is quite impressive. And if you don't like the PHP features
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
take look www.site5.com On Thursday 12 October 2006 00:59, Ed Lazor wrote: Anyone ever use A2Hosting.com? Or better yet, any recommendations on a PHP 5 web hosting company that you're happy with - measured in terms of quality support, they know what they're doing, and they have good prices? Bonus points for good drive space, bandwidth, and SSH access. I ran a Google search and came up with several options. A2Hosting.com seems the best so far. My only reservation is that they offer 24/7 support through a message service who will page a tech who in turn will call you back - seems sketchy and I can imagine trying to talk someone into going to the server room at 2am. I also checked out many of the other options, but some of them seemed even more sketchy... like VisualWebHosting.com... you click on their link for a BBB review and it brings up another company entirely... and you call their number and all the greeting says is Please leave a message... bep... pretty scary if you ask me. Anyway, thanks in advance for any recommendations you have. -Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
Thanks for the feedback Kyle, much appreciated. DreamHost does look pretty good price-wise. Two others I was referred to are HostBaby.com and OCSSolutions.com. Have a good one :) -Ed On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:12 PM, Kyle wrote: Hello, I would suggest dreamhost at www.dreamhost.com. Their prices look a bit hefty at first but there are referral codes all over the internet and you can end up saving $97. Their plans have tons of bandwidth and space and I haven't had any trouble with it. But I would suggest them highly, their service is quite impressive. And if you don't like the PHP features they let you compile you own! Good Luck with it! Kyle -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
Hello, I would suggest dreamhost at www.dreamhost.com. Their prices look a bit hefty at first but there are referral codes all over the internet and you can end up saving $97. Their plans have tons of bandwidth and space and I haven't had any trouble with it. But I would suggest them highly, their service is quite impressive. And if you don't like the PHP features they let you compile you own! Good Luck with it! Kyle Ed Lazor wrote: Anyone ever use A2Hosting.com? Or better yet, any recommendations on a PHP 5 web hosting company that you're happy with - measured in terms of quality support, they know what they're doing, and they have good prices? Bonus points for good drive space, bandwidth, and SSH access. I ran a Google search and came up with several options. A2Hosting.com seems the best so far. My only reservation is that they offer 24/7 support through a message service who will page a tech who in turn will call you back - seems sketchy and I can imagine trying to talk someone into going to the server room at 2am. I also checked out many of the other options, but some of them seemed even more sketchy... like VisualWebHosting.com... you click on their link for a BBB review and it brings up another company entirely... and you call their number and all the greeting says is Please leave a message... bep... pretty scary if you ask me. Anyway, thanks in advance for any recommendations you have. -Ed --PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
On 9/30/05, Tom Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an interesting one. As someone learning PHP, I am still confused which route I should be going down? Especially as I am looking to take on a dedicated server soon, I don't know if PHP5 will become standard soon or are we going to see PHP6 first??!? It is a really serious problem, PHP 5 have so much good things specially in terms of XML that I just want to use them in my programmes but whenever I decide to do programming in PHP 5, I stuck on the choice of a good server. Most of the Hosting service providers are still providing hosting in PHP 4. I think PHP is going through a very tough phase. It has got the capabilities but we can not use them, thats why we can SAY that PHP is good programming language But we can not PROVE that in practically. Well the original posting was about hosting service provider, somewhere I read about HOSTWAY. they are in PHP 5 hosting. Zareef Aahmed Please can some more experienced people let me have their views on this? Many thanks,# Tom On 30/09/05, Joe Wollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first two results both seem pretty good at a glance: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=php5+ssh+hostingbtnG=Google+Search On Sep 29, 2005, at 8:29 PM, Ed Lazor wrote: Any recommendations on good host providers for PHP 5? Bonus points if they support SSH access and a PHP compiler like Zend. Thanks, Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Tom Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07915 053312 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Zareef Ahmed :: A PHP Developer in India ( Delhi ) Homepage :: http://www.zareef.net
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
Sheesh! No week passing by without people complaining about hosters missiong out on PHP5. This is one point where we in Germany seem to be lucky. The two biggest german hosters 11 (about 4 million domains) and Strato (about 2.5 million domains) both offer SSH and the possibility to chosse the PHP version on a per directory basis (via .htaccess). Strato offers PHP 3.x, 4.0.x, 4.3.x and 5.0.x in parallel. Perhaps you should think about outsourcing your hosting *g*. For about 13 EUR per month you get PHP3, 4, 5 and even Ruby, SSH access, MySQL access, 4 Domains, 600MB space and 30 GB free traffic. AllOLLi -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
Oliver Grätz wrote: Sheesh! No week passing by without people complaining about hosters missiong out on PHP5. This is one point where we in Germany seem to be lucky. The two biggest german hosters 11 (about 4 million domains) and Strato (about 2.5 million domains) both offer SSH and the possibility to chosse the PHP version on a per directory basis (via .htaccess). Strato offers PHP 3.x, 4.0.x, 4.3.x and 5.0.x in parallel. Perhaps you should think about outsourcing your hosting *g*. I am assuming they're running PHP through CGI in this case, am I correct, or are they hosting on Windows to achieve the multiple PHP versions? If CGI, that rather affects performance of larger applications, it especially impact render time of more complex templates and forms. During my own testing we gained lots of time by just running it as a compiled Apache module instead of through CGI and in .htaccess. On our hosting servers we solved it by running a compiled PHP 5 Apache module on one server, and regular on the others. This way, if someone requests PHP 5, they can be put on the server that supports it, and if somebody wants to switch server from PHP 4 to PHP 5, it's an easy enough task. Or, of course, we have the CGI option to fall back on. Regards, Torgny -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
Torgny Bjers schrieb: I am assuming they're running PHP through CGI in this case, am I correct, or are they hosting on Windows to achieve the multiple PHP versions? If CGI, that rather affects performance of larger applications, it especially impact render time of more complex templates and forms. During my own testing we gained lots of time by just running it as a compiled Apache module instead of through CGI and in .htaccess. Well, I guess you are right. One can compile multiple versions of PHP to run as Apache module in parallel by changing the sources (one has to change some symbol names) but I think Strato didn't do that since most shared hosting services run PHP as CGI anway for security reasons. Also, I think writing applications with high performance requirements somewhat contradicts deploying them on shared hosts. If you need performance: Get a dedicated server and - if you want - even compile yer own hand-optimized PHP. And: Clever development circumvents the CGI bottleneck. Developing is absolutely no problem under CGI since it's done by just a few users and here the flexibility of multiple version kicks in: You can freely choose! For the production version you simply use a good userland cache that minimizes the work done by PHP. AllOLLi Bree: Do you know, I’ve finally convinced Rex to buy his first orchid. George: Make sure you study up. I hate people who own precious flowers and don’t know how to take proper care of them. Rex: You know what I hate? Weeds. They just pop up out of nowhere and you have to work so hard to get rid of them. George: I find that with the right chemicals you can get rid of anything. [DH 120, earns the price for most subtext per sentence.] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
This is an interesting one. As someone learning PHP, I am still confused which route I should be going down? Especially as I am looking to take on a dedicated server soon, I don't know if PHP5 will become standard soon or are we going to see PHP6 first??!? Please can some more experienced people let me have their views on this? Many thanks,# Tom On 30/09/05, Joe Wollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first two results both seem pretty good at a glance: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=php5+ssh+hostingbtnG=Google+Search On Sep 29, 2005, at 8:29 PM, Ed Lazor wrote: Any recommendations on good host providers for PHP 5? Bonus points if they support SSH access and a PHP compiler like Zend. Thanks, Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Tom Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07915 053312 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP 5 Hosting
The first two results both seem pretty good at a glance: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=php5+ssh+hostingbtnG=Google+Search On Sep 29, 2005, at 8:29 PM, Ed Lazor wrote: Any recommendations on good host providers for PHP 5? Bonus points if they support SSH access and a PHP compiler like Zend. Thanks, Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
