Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-17 Thread Per Jessen
vester_s wrote:

 I need to get the list for all of the people that subscribing to this
 newsreader, this list will be used to modify the other mailing list
 programs.
 
 Basically by getting the list of the people that subscribing on this
 newsgroup, then i could migrate it to our new forum based.
 
 So is it possible for getting those list?

You can always check the news-server logfiles.  I think that's probably
the best place to get some user/usage information.  


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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-17 Thread Stut

On 16 Apr 2008, at 23:50, vester_s wrote:

I need to get the list for all of the people that subscribing to this
newsreader, this list will be used to modify the other mailing list
programs.

Basically by getting the list of the people that subscribing on this
newsgroup, then i could migrate it to our new forum based.

So is it possible for getting those list?


Really not sure what you mean by modify the other mailing list  
programs.


And nobody subscribed to this mailing list has agreed to have an  
account on your new forum.


So no, I won't help you get their details.

Have a cracking day.

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Stut wrote:


On 16 Apr 2008, at 18:01, vester_s wrote:

Is it possible to do it without using imap? I am trying to get the
list of
all users that is on the newsgroup, is that possible?


I'm wondering what possible legitimate reason you could have for
wanting that list?

There is a way to get it (it's not easy but it's possible) but  
until I

know why you want it I'm not sharing.

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chris smith-9 wrote:


vester_s wrote:

Hi,

Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of
all
users
in the newsgroups?


http://php.net/imap supports nntp.

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Per Jessen
vester_s wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of all
 users in the newsgroups?
 

I'm not sure about getting all the users, but you could create a
connection using plain socket programming.  NNTP is a pretty simple
protocol. 


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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Chris

vester_s wrote:

Hi,

Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of all users
in the newsgroups?


http://php.net/imap supports nntp.

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Crayon Shin Chan
On Wednesday 16 April 2008, vester_s wrote:

 Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of all
 users in the newsgroups?

NNTP has no concept of users.

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread vester_s

Is it possible to do it without using imap? I am trying to get the list of
all users that is on the newsgroup, is that possible?


chris smith-9 wrote:
 
 vester_s wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of all
 users
 in the newsgroups?
 
 http://php.net/imap supports nntp.
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Crayon Shin Chan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 April 2008, vester_s wrote:

   Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of all
   users in the newsgroups?

  NNTP has no concept of users.

Crayon is right.

Authentication is probably being done via PAM or an IMAP module
(or something of the sort).

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Per Jessen
Daniel Brown wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Crayon Shin Chan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 April 2008, vester_s wrote:

   Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of
   all users in the newsgroups?

  NNTP has no concept of users.
 
 Crayon is right.
 
  Authentication is probably being done via PAM or an IMAP module
 (or something of the sort).

If required, authentication is done via NNTP.  The nntp servers can be
set up to require authentication for some or more groups, for instance
for closed user communities.  
If you check your newsreader, you'll no doubt find a place to
tick authentication required and to enter userid and password.


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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If required, authentication is done via NNTP.  The nntp servers can be
  set up to require authentication for some or more groups, for instance
  for closed user communities.
  If you check your newsreader, you'll no doubt find a place to
  tick authentication required and to enter userid and password.

Correct, but to my understanding, NNTP only matches the data for
authentication (using PAM, LDAP, etc.), just like SSH, most FTP, and
other services.  What I sent didn't mean that NNTP can't use
authentication, but rather that Crayon was right in stating that NNTP
doesn't track the users itself.

I'll admit, though, that I could be wrong on this.  Every once in
a very great while, it's been known to happen.  :-\

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Per Jessen
Daniel Brown wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If required, authentication is done via NNTP.  The nntp servers can
  be set up to require authentication for some or more groups, for
  instance for closed user communities.
  If you check your newsreader, you'll no doubt find a place to
  tick authentication required and to enter userid and password.
 
 Correct, but to my understanding, NNTP only matches the data for
 authentication (using PAM, LDAP, etc.), just like SSH, most FTP, and
 other services.  What I sent didn't mean that NNTP can't use
 authentication, but rather that Crayon was right in stating that NNTP
 doesn't track the users itself.
 I'll admit, though, that I could be wrong on this.  Every once in
 a very great while, it's been known to happen.  :-\

Well, NNTP (the protocol) certainly has a userid/password concept, and
so does e.g. INN, the news-server I'm using. 
I'm sure INN _could_ use a PAM-module for interfacing Linux access
control, but the straight forward config with restricted access is done
with userid/passwd files generated by htpasswd (from apache).


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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, NNTP (the protocol) certainly has a userid/password concept, and
  so does e.g. INN, the news-server I'm using.
  I'm sure INN _could_ use a PAM-module for interfacing Linux access
  control, but the straight forward config with restricted access is done
  with userid/passwd files generated by htpasswd (from apache).

Ah, duly-noted.  This must've been one of those once in a very
great while moments where I'm wrong.  I should be good for a while
now.  ;-P

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread Stut

On 16 Apr 2008, at 18:01, vester_s wrote:
Is it possible to do it without using imap? I am trying to get the  
list of

all users that is on the newsgroup, is that possible?


I'm wondering what possible legitimate reason you could have for  
wanting that list?


There is a way to get it (it's not easy but it's possible) but until I  
know why you want it I'm not sharing.


-Stut

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chris smith-9 wrote:


vester_s wrote:

Hi,

Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of  
all

users
in the newsgroups?


http://php.net/imap supports nntp.

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Re: [PHP] PHP with NNTP?

2008-04-16 Thread vester_s

I need to get the list for all of the people that subscribing to this
newsreader, this list will be used to modify the other mailing list
programs.

Basically by getting the list of the people that subscribing on this
newsgroup, then i could migrate it to our new forum based.

So is it possible for getting those list?

thanks,



Stut wrote:
 
 On 16 Apr 2008, at 18:01, vester_s wrote:
 Is it possible to do it without using imap? I am trying to get the  
 list of
 all users that is on the newsgroup, is that possible?
 
 I'm wondering what possible legitimate reason you could have for  
 wanting that list?
 
 There is a way to get it (it's not easy but it's possible) but until I  
 know why you want it I'm not sharing.
 
 -Stut
 
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 chris smith-9 wrote:

 vester_s wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anybody tell me how can php connect to NNTP to get the list of  
 all
 users
 in the newsgroups?

 http://php.net/imap supports nntp.

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