Re: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-05 Thread tedd

At 1:36 PM -0700 5/4/06, Ryan A wrote:

Hi again,
Kindly save the below code as t.php and run it in as
many browsers/servers you can, then click on each of
the links and tell me if you run into any problems.

(Basically, I am checking to see how many characters
we can have in a URL that the server will accept and
process, the script checks 200-1000 chars.. add more
if you want to)

Thanks!
Ryan


Ryan:

http://xn--ovg.com/t.php

In Safari 2.0.3, FireFox 1.5.0.2, IE 5.2, Mozilla 1.83a I could run 
8168 characters (f-click) without any problems. But, Opera 8.5 failed.


However, when I increased it to 8169 characters (g-click) they all failed.

HTH's

tedd

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Re: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-05 Thread Ryan A


 
 Ryan:
 
 http://xn--ovg.com/t.php
 
 In Safari 2.0.3, FireFox 1.5.0.2, IE 5.2, Mozilla
 1.83a I could run 
 8168 characters (f-click) without any problems. But,
 Opera 8.5 failed.
 
 However, when I increased it to 8169 characters
 (g-click) they all failed.
 
 HTH's
 
 tedd
 
 PS: Mac OS-X 10.4.6
 Linux server1.ghettowebhosting.net Apache/1.3.34
 (Unix) 
 mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2
 mod_bwlimited/1.4 
 PHP/4.3.11 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.25
 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
 -- 


Thanks Tedd,
I appreciate it.

Cheers,
Ryan

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RE: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, May 04, 2006 1:36 PM said:

 (Basically, I am checking to see how many characters
 we can have in a URL that the server will accept and
 process, the script checks 200-1000 chars.. add more
 if you want to)

Without any tweaking of the server mine went up to 4000 without a
problem. However, 5000 always times out.

Fx 1.5, Apache 2, Fedora 4, PHP 4.3.11


fwiw,
Chris.

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RE: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-04 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, May 4, 2006 4:51 pm, Chris W. Parker wrote:
 Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 on Thursday, May 04, 2006 1:36 PM said:

 (Basically, I am checking to see how many characters
 we can have in a URL that the server will accept and
 process, the script checks 200-1000 chars.. add more
 if you want to)

 Without any tweaking of the server mine went up to 4000 without a
 problem. However, 5000 always times out.

 Fx 1.5, Apache 2, Fedora 4, PHP 4.3.11

HTTP servers are required to support at least X bytes.

X changed from HTTP spec to spec.

In all specs, servers were encouraged to support as many characters
as is practical

Note that part of this stems from the fact that there are many
embedded HTTP servers with very specific minimalist goals.

EG the HTTP server in one of them little D-Link hub thingies has to be
pretty small, right?

But they want to be compliant with the spec, right?

Or, at least, non-compliance should not be over something as trivial
as the dang URL being too long

At any rate, other than being more than the minimum, it's entirely up
to your HTTP application how long is max length

Here's the thing though:  Do you really want a 4000-char URL?

That's probably not a Good Idea for a lot of different reasons -- some
of which may not apply to domain-specific applications, but...

MOST people asking this question are e, not newbies, but
journeymen web application developers, who are going to soon realize
that there are better ways to manage client/server I/O than cramming
4000 characters into a URL. :-) :-) :-)

IMHO YMMV IANAL

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RE: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-04 Thread Ryan A
Hey,

Thanks for replying and testing it out.


 Here's the thing though:  Do you really want a
 4000-char URL?

Not at all, I just wanted to know if I can put 30-50
words in a url or would it break

 
 MOST people asking this question are e, not
 newbies, 

Well, if you compare me to the gurus on this list, I'm
always going to be a newbie...so dont worry about the
errr just say it ;-)


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RE: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-04 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
Thanks for replying and testing it out.

 Without any tweaking of the server mine went up to
 4000 without a
 problem. However, 5000 always times out.
 
 Fx 1.5, Apache 2, Fedora 4, PHP 4.3.11

Cool...

 Are you sure you searched on this subject?

 maximum url length in Google turns up a number of 
 resources saying 2083 due to IE's limit.

Yes, I mentioned that in my original post...but read
that carefully, it says IE's limit,not everyone uses
IE and if you continue sifting through googles results
you will see that it also mentions some servers
settings may allow more or less. Infact, your test
itself proves that it was worth it coz you took it way
up more than the 2083 limit that you found :-)

I am on a windows machine running apache 1.3, no
problems, I wanted to know if anybody else had a
problem running it on their servers (differnet
platforms, different browsers etc).

Everything good!

Thanks,
Ryan

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RE: [PHP] Test URL length please (Pretty much 0T)

2006-05-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:08 PM said:

 Are you sure you searched on this subject?
 
 maximum url length in Google turns up a number of
 resources saying 2083 due to IE's limit.
 
 Yes, I mentioned that in my original post...

Yes I know, that's why I said, are you sure. To question your claim of
having searched.

 but read
 that carefully, it says IE's limit,not everyone uses
 IE and if you continue sifting through googles results
 you will see that it also mentions some servers
 settings may allow more or less. Infact, your test
 itself proves that it was worth it coz you took it way
 up more than the 2083 limit that you found :-)

Well of course but that's because I wasn't using IE so my point is that
I don't think it matters (that I got over 2083). I would be willing to
say that 3/4 of all internet users are on IE still so tweaking server
settings and testing with browsers other than IE is useless. Unless of
course you know exactly your audience's setup (for example in a
corporate setting where you know your client's setup) in which case this
could possibly be worthwile. But then again if someone is passing long
strings like that they should rethink their implementation anyway... so
back to square one.



Chris.

p.s. fiddleIf I sound snippy it's because I'm at the office later than
planned because something has not gone as planned.../fiddle

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