Re[6]: [PHP] preg_replace: avoiding double replacements

2010-05-19 Thread Andre Polykanine
Ash,

Actually it's not the Caesar cypher itself (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temurah_(Kabbalah), third method), but
your way of transformation seems to me the best for a while)
Thanks!

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- Original message -
From: Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
To: Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 2:32:11 PM
Subject: [PHP] preg_replace: avoiding double replacements

On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 13:09 +0200, Peter Lind wrote:

 On 18 May 2010 12:35, Andre Polykanine an...@oire.org wrote:
  Hello Peter,
 
  Hm... I see I need to specify what I'm really doing. Actually, I need
  to change the letters in the text. It's a famous and ancient crypting
  method: you divide the alphabet making two parts, then you change the
  letters of one part with letters for other part (so A becomes N, B
  becomes O, etc., and vice versa). it works fine and slightly with
  strtr or str_replace... but only if the text is not in utf-8 and it
  doesn't contain any non-English letters such as Cyrillic what I need.
  What my regex does is the following: it sees an A, well it changes it
  to N; then it goes through the string and sees an N... what does it
  do? Surely, it changes it back to A! I hoped (in vain) that there
  exists a modifier preventing this behavior... but it seems that it's
  false(
  Thanks!
 
 Hmmm, what comes to mind is using your string as an array and
 translating one character after another, building your output string
 using a lookup table. Not entirely sure how that will play with utf8
 characters, you'd have to try and see.
  I don't think you'll get any of PHPs string functions to do the work
 for you - they'll do the job in serial, not parallel.
 
 Regards
 Peter
 
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If you're wanting to use the Caesar cypher (for that's what it is) then
why not just modify the entire string, character by character, to use a
character code n characters ahead. For example, a capital A is ascii 65,
you want to change it to an N to add 14 to that. Just keep n the same
throughout and it's easy to convert back.

Thanks,
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Re: Re[6]: [PHP] preg_replace: avoiding double replacements

2010-05-19 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 16:40 +0300, Andre Polykanine wrote:

 Ash,
 
 Actually it's not the Caesar cypher itself (see
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temurah_(Kabbalah), third method), but
 your way of transformation seems to me the best for a while)
 Thanks!
 
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 With best regards from Ukraine,
 Andre
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 - Original message -
 From: Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
 To: Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 2:32:11 PM
 Subject: [PHP] preg_replace: avoiding double replacements
 
 On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 13:09 +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
 
  On 18 May 2010 12:35, Andre Polykanine an...@oire.org wrote:
   Hello Peter,
  
   Hm... I see I need to specify what I'm really doing. Actually, I need
   to change the letters in the text. It's a famous and ancient crypting
   method: you divide the alphabet making two parts, then you change the
   letters of one part with letters for other part (so A becomes N, B
   becomes O, etc., and vice versa). it works fine and slightly with
   strtr or str_replace... but only if the text is not in utf-8 and it
   doesn't contain any non-English letters such as Cyrillic what I need.
   What my regex does is the following: it sees an A, well it changes it
   to N; then it goes through the string and sees an N... what does it
   do? Surely, it changes it back to A! I hoped (in vain) that there
   exists a modifier preventing this behavior... but it seems that it's
   false(
   Thanks!
  
  Hmmm, what comes to mind is using your string as an array and
  translating one character after another, building your output string
  using a lookup table. Not entirely sure how that will play with utf8
  characters, you'd have to try and see.
   I don't think you'll get any of PHPs string functions to do the work
  for you - they'll do the job in serial, not parallel.
  
  Regards
  Peter
  
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 If you're wanting to use the Caesar cypher (for that's what it is) then
 why not just modify the entire string, character by character, to use a
 character code n characters ahead. For example, a capital A is ascii 65,
 you want to change it to an N to add 14 to that. Just keep n the same
 throughout and it's easy to convert back.
 
 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
 
 
 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_cypher

This is what I was suggesting, which appears to be the same as the third
method (Albam) of the Temurah cypher.


Thanks,
Ash
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Re[6]: [PHP] preg_replace: avoiding double replacements

2010-05-18 Thread Andre Polykanine
Hello Peter,

Good point. And more than that, I make a decrypting script, also... so
gibberish defenitely is an issue)
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- Original message -
From: Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com
To: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 3:00:56 PM
Subject: [PHP] preg_replace: avoiding double replacements

On 18 May 2010 13:43, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:

 On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 13:46 +0200, Peter Lind wrote:

 On 18 May 2010 13:32, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 13:09 +0200, Peter Lind wrote:
 
  On 18 May 2010 12:35, Andre Polykanine an...@oire.org wrote:
   Hello Peter,
  
   Hm... I see I need to specify what I'm really doing. Actually, I need
   to change the letters in the text. It's a famous and ancient crypting
   method: you divide the alphabet making two parts, then you change the
   letters of one part with letters for other part (so A becomes N, B
   becomes O, etc., and vice versa). it works fine and slightly with
   strtr or str_replace... but only if the text is not in utf-8 and it
   doesn't contain any non-English letters such as Cyrillic what I need.
   What my regex does is the following: it sees an A, well it changes it
   to N; then it goes through the string and sees an N... what does it
   do? Surely, it changes it back to A! I hoped (in vain) that there
   exists a modifier preventing this behavior... but it seems that it's
   false(
   Thanks!
 
  Hmmm, what comes to mind is using your string as an array and
  translating one character after another, building your output string
  using a lookup table. Not entirely sure how that will play with utf8
  characters, you'd have to try and see.
   I don't think you'll get any of PHPs string functions to do the work
  for you - they'll do the job in serial, not parallel.
 
  Regards
  Peter
 
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  If you're wanting to use the Caesar cypher (for that's what it is) then why 
  not just modify the entire string, character by character, to use a 
  character code n characters ahead. For example, a capital A is ascii 65, 
  you want to change it to an N to add 14 to that. Just keep n the same 
  throughout and it's easy to convert back.
 
  Thanks,
  Ash
  http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
 

 You probably overlooked the part where the OP points out he's not
 using ascii but utf8. If it was just ascii, using str_rot13() would be
 the weapon of choice I'd say (note that adding 14 to every character
 of an ascii string will turn lots of it into gibberish - you have to
 wrap round when you reach a certain point).

 Regards
 Peter

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 I gave the example as Ascii because I knew the code for A off the top of my 
 head, I don't see a reason why it won't work for utf, the characters still 
 have incremental codes.

 Also, is gibberish really an issue to worry about? The Caesar cypher is 
 already rendering the string unreadable.

You normally want output in the same range that you encode from (i.e.
you're remapping within the alphabet, not within the entire range of
printable characters) if you're doing a caesar/rot13.

Regards
Peter

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