[PHP] mysql cache query as xml

2009-07-10 Thread workerho...@studysite.eu

hi guys, i need some help by optimize the performance.
my problem is that i need a lot of rows the whole site (don't ask i need 
the rows really :-) )
this is about ~4000 rows it will be loaded from mysql database in 0.3 
seconds

my idea was to cache this rows in a xml file like for example:


   some hash id
   category title 

..

also load query from mysql first, save to xml using 6 hours, erase the 
cached file, load query against
but to load the same num rows from xml during more then 3 seconds in 
comparison mysql need just 0.3 seconds.


how can i optimize the reading from xml faster?

server design:
2 mysql server (Master & Slave with Replication  )
8 Applikation Server with connect to the 2 mysql server

this i the reason why i want to cache this query anyway! other querys 
just need about 0.0004 seconds, but this is the slowest query!

i hope someone can help me or had a better ideas to solve this problem!

thanks chris


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Re: [PHP] mysql cache query as xml

2009-07-10 Thread workerho...@studysite.eu

hi andrew i think you understand my problem a little,
but if 100 user load this query at the same time, the two mysql server 
had a lot to do!
so i think to cache this query as xml to the application server local 
make thinks faster,
but, i would like to have the same performance to read this xml document 
as read the query from mysql server...

i dont know why php is so slow to read the xml file...


Andrew Ballard schrieb:

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
  

   Chris;

   From my understanding of your question, your message (included
below in its entirety) is better sent to the MySQL General list, which
I've CC'd on this reply.  If you haven't yet, please subscribe there
at mysql-subscr...@lists.mysql.com to follow the thread for responses.

   If I'm misunderstanding and you're asking a PHP-related question,
please rephrase your question.



I understood the question to be how to improve performance by caching
MySQL results into an XML document (which, given that it was posted
here) within a PHP script. Perhaps this is not the correct
interpretation, but if so it would be relevant.

However, I'm not sure I'd spend time trying to devise a "fast" XML
cache for a query that only took 0.3 seconds to execute. By itself,
that isn't bad performance unless this is a query that is called
frequently by several concurrent users. Personally, I'd look into ways
to improve the execution of the query itself in MySQL (making sure the
query is sargable and improving indexes, etc.) until I thought I had
exhausted everything there.

Just my 2 cents.

Andrew
  



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Re: [PHP] mysql cache query as xml

2009-07-10 Thread workerho...@studysite.eu

hmm, the infrastructure ist good, this is just this query
so to solve my problem i could run mysql on the application server and 
store just this table

and read the query from them, it could solve my problem litte, i hope so!



Daniel Brown schrieb:

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 13:07,
workerho...@studysite.eu wrote:
  

hi andrew i think you understand my problem a little,
but if 100 user load this query at the same time, the two mysql server had a
lot to do!
so i think to cache this query as xml to the application server local make
thinks faster,
but, i would like to have the same performance to read this xml document as
read the query from mysql server...
i dont know why php is so slow to read the xml file...



It will be slower to read a file than data from an SQL database by
sheer design --- regardless of whether it's XML, CSV, plain text, etc.
 And MySQL is faster still because it's run as a server with it's own
processing engine, completely independent of the PHP engine and
spawned process.  Other factors involved are disk seek time, memory
capabilities, et cetera, but the SQL-vs-file point is the biggest.

For PHP to locate something within the file, it must load the
entire file into memory or read it byte-by-byte, line-by-line, from an
exact offset (given explicitly).  SQL databases such as MySQL work
similarly, but don't catalog all data in quite the same linear
fashion.  Further, MySQL is capable of indexing, allowing it to return
the data far faster.

There's a time and a place for each, but it sounds as though what
you're attempting to do would not be best-served by caching it in an
XML sheet.

Also, something to keep in mind (with no offense intended by any
means): if you have two database servers (using replication) for
load-balancing and they - combined - cannot handle 100 simultaneous
connections and queries, you may want to re-evaluate your
infrastructure and architecture.

  



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Re: [PHP] mysql cache query as xml

2009-07-10 Thread workerho...@studysite.eu

yes i think i should do this

Daniel Brown schrieb:

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 13:23,
workerho...@studysite.eu wrote:
  

hmm, the infrastructure ist good, this is just this query
so to solve my problem i could run mysql on the application server and store
just this table
and read the query from them, it could solve my problem litte, i hope so!



You may also want to look into SQLite --- it's perfectly designed
for this kind of situation.

  



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Re: [PHP] mysql cache query as xml

2009-07-10 Thread workerho...@studysite.eu

first thanks to all who have read ;-)

your solution looks like the method how i done it actually,
i have tested the last hours the solution with sql lite on application 
server


the Solution:

3 Mysql Server ( 1 more to handle the big load ) (1 Master, 2 Slaves) 
mysql replication

10 Applikation Server ( get today two more from my hoster :-) )
on Application Serer running php and sql lite
by the first load from mysql server the big query get synchronised with 
the lokal sql lite and write into the database

entrys are about 6 hour valid, after then the server get the new list.

performance looks nice:
total load time: between 0.03-0.09 Seconds

but i found another problem by the time i worked on the server
application server can create images and thumbs of them in various sizes 
(gd lib etc.)
then this server open a ftp connection ( ftp_connect() ) to a global 
data & storage server
the data server has just running ftp so i must created the thumbs on 
application server and move all files to the data server:

question:
*can php handle some compression with ftp* ? so that i can move some 
more data?


chirs


Michael A. Peters schrieb:

workerho...@studysite.eu wrote:

hi andrew i think you understand my problem a little,
but if 100 user load this query at the same time, the two mysql 
server had a lot to do!
so i think to cache this query as xml to the application server local 
make thinks faster,
but, i would like to have the same performance to read this xml 
document as read the query from mysql server...

i dont know why php is so slow to read the xml file...


Are you saving to file or caching as a query result?
Also note that you can cache an array of rows (at least with APC but I 
suspect memcache as well) - say my_fetch(key) is you function to fetch 
from cache and my_store(key,data,life) is your function to store.


$result = my_fetch('big_query');
if (! $result) {
  $sql = 'your query';
  $rs = mysql_query($sql);
  while ($row = mysql_fetch_object($rs)) {
 $result[] = $row;
 }
  my_store('big_query',$result,21600);
  }

No xml involved and you can loop through the results.

If you'd rather do it as xml, you can cache the xml as a string and 
then fetch it, importing it into a DOM or whatever to extract your 
results.


$xml = my_fetch('queryResultAsXML');
if (! $xml) {
   generate xml and cache it
   }
$dom = new DOMDocument('1.0','utf-8');
$dom->loadXML($xml);

Not sure what you are doing, apoligize if these suggestions are 
useless or already considered.





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