php-general Digest 25 Nov 2008 20:32:23 -0000 Issue 5810
Topics (messages 283798 through 283816):
PHP friendly web software?
283798 by: John Boy
283799 by: Edgar da Silva (Fly2k)
283800 by: Chris Jiang
283801 by: Chris Jiang
283803 by: uaca man
283804 by: Ashley Sheridan
283811 by: Eric Butera
283812 by: ceo.l-i-e.com
283813 by: uaca man
283814 by: Ashley Sheridan
283815 by: Eric Butera
Re: getStatic
283802 by: ceo.l-i-e.com
HTMLEntities as NUMERIC for XML
283805 by: ceo.l-i-e.com
283806 by: Al
283807 by: ceo.l-i-e.com
283808 by: Ashley Sheridan
283809 by: ceo.l-i-e.com
283810 by: Boyd, Todd M.
php cURL with SSL problem ??
283816 by: LKSunny
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Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page when
any php code is present. Any ideas?
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Have you tried Delphi for PHP?
So, mixing HTML and PHP code is a good choice when the PHP code is
only about how present the information.
If you are mixing your bussines logic and presentation you need learn
MVC layers.
2008/11/25 John Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
> friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
> the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
> Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
> worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
> all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page when
> any php code is present. Any ideas?
>
>
>
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Abraços
Edgar Ferreira da Silva
Engenheiro de Software
Campinas - SP
(19) 8110-0733
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Aprenda PHP, cole códigos, saiba das vagas de empregos:
http://www.manjaphp.com.br
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I'd say it's not a really good idea to mix code and layout together. Try
using some of the template systems, or maybe XML/XSL instead. I honestly
don't know, and doesn't think if there is, or will ever be any page
editor does it well as you've demanded.
Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page when
any php code is present. Any ideas?
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I'd say it's not a really good idea to mix code and layout together. Try
using some of the template systems, or maybe XML/XSL instead. I honestly
don't know, and doesn't think if there is, or will ever be any page
editor does it well as you've demanded.
Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page when
any php code is present. Any ideas?
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I use vs.php to edit php and dreamweaver to html and im happy with those two.
2008/11/25 John Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
> friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
> the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
> Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
> worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
> all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page when
> any php code is present. Any ideas?
>
>
>
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On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 12:54 -0200, uaca man wrote:
> I use vs.php to edit php and dreamweaver to html and im happy with those two.
>
> 2008/11/25 John Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
> > friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
> > the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
> > Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
> > worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
> > all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page when
> > any php code is present. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
At work, the other guys use Dreamweaver to edit HTML and PHP, and it
works well for them. Myself, I do everything with a text editor anyways,
even C# and C++!
Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Ashley Sheridan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 12:54 -0200, uaca man wrote:
>> I use vs.php to edit php and dreamweaver to html and im happy with those
>> two.
>>
>> 2008/11/25 John Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
>> > friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code into
>> > the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
>> > Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This has
>> > worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays stuff
>> > all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page
>> > when
>> > any php code is present. Any ideas?
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>> >
>> >
>>
> At work, the other guys use Dreamweaver to edit HTML and PHP, and it
> works well for them. Myself, I do everything with a text editor anyways,
> even C# and C++!
>
>
> Ash
> www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
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Life's too short to not have code completion! :D
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> Life's too short to not have code completion! :D
I tried to help a guy out yesterday, and his silly code completion thingie
ended up writing bogus HTML as I typed...
I don't NEED code completion, thank you very much, I know what I'm doing, so
get out of my way!
:-p
(I've tried them all, and end up in 'vi' almost always.)
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2008/11/25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Life's too short to not have code completion! :D
>
> I tried to help a guy out yesterday, and his silly code completion thingie
> ended up writing bogus HTML as I typed...
>
> I don't NEED code completion, thank you very much, I know what I'm doing, so
> get out of my way!
>
> :-p
>
> (I've tried them all, and end up in 'vi' almost always.)
>
>
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I completely agree with you! Why use a car when you can walk?
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On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 12:54 -0500, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Ashley Sheridan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 12:54 -0200, uaca man wrote:
> >> I use vs.php to edit php and dreamweaver to html and im happy with those
> >> two.
> >>
> >> 2008/11/25 John Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> > Can anyone recommend a wysiwyg web development software which is php
> >> > friendly, i.e. you can design the page in wysiwyg and insert php code
> >> > into
> >> > the html without destroying the screen image preview. I've been using
> >> > Frontpage to compose the page then dev-php to insert the php code. This
> >> > has
> >> > worked well but if layout changes need to be made Frontpage displays
> >> > stuff
> >> > all over the place. Just trying MS Expression but this shows blank page
> >> > when
> >> > any php code is present. Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> > At work, the other guys use Dreamweaver to edit HTML and PHP, and it
> > works well for them. Myself, I do everything with a text editor anyways,
> > even C# and C++!
> >
> >
> > Ash
> > www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
> >
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> Life's too short to not have code completion! :D
Ah but I do, there's a neat little plugin for KATE that completes your
code based on what you've typed before in the same document, which stops
me making a typo when I;m entering variable names!
Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:20 PM, uaca man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/11/25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> Life's too short to not have code completion! :D
>>
>> I tried to help a guy out yesterday, and his silly code completion thingie
>> ended up writing bogus HTML as I typed...
>>
>> I don't NEED code completion, thank you very much, I know what I'm doing, so
>> get out of my way!
>>
>> :-p
>>
>> (I've tried them all, and end up in 'vi' almost always.)
>>
>>
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>>
>
> I completely agree with you! Why use a car when you can walk?
>
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Well I work on a lot of various projects. Some procedural, some oop.
Lots written by different developers too. It saves me time not having
to remember where things are, what they'renamed, parameter orders,
etc. Being able to also click on a function and open its source file
without worrying about paths saves a lot of time too.
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str_replace will take arrays for "before" and "after" sequences.
So, build arrays, and do ONE str_replace and Bob's your uncle.
Another option, a bit crude, but effective, would be to wrap your template-y
bit in a function that calls 'extract' on an array of variable names.
class Template_thingie {
private $vars = array();
public function template_register_variable($varname){
$vars[] = $varname;
}
function template_render_whatsit(){
extract($vars);
include("some_file_$foo_here.php");
}
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After reading this:
http://validator.w3.org/feed/docs/error/UndefinedNamedEntity.html
(all praise W3.org!)
I am searching for a PHP library function that will convert all my &abc; into
{
I have a zillion of these things from converting stupid MS Word characters into
something that will, like, you know, actually WORK on the Internet, and do not
really want to re-invent the wheel here.
Somebody has to have written this function...
I'm kind of surprised it's not http://php.net/xmlentities or somesuch...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After reading this:
http://validator.w3.org/feed/docs/error/UndefinedNamedEntity.html
(all praise W3.org!)
I am searching for a PHP library function that will convert all my &abc; into
{
I have a zillion of these things from converting stupid MS Word characters into
something that will, like, you know, actually WORK on the Internet, and do not
really want to re-invent the wheel here.
Somebody has to have written this function...
I'm kind of surprised it's not http://php.net/xmlentities or somesuch...
Here's what I use:
//Translate table for dumb Windows chars when user paste from Word; function
strips all >160
$win1252ToPlainTextArray=array(
chr(130)=> ',',
chr(131)=> '',
chr(132)=> ',,',
chr(133)=> '...',
chr(134)=> '+',
chr(135)=> '',
chr(139)=> '<',
chr(145)=> '\'',
chr(146)=> '\'',
chr(147)=> '"',
chr(148)=> '"',
chr(149)=> '*',
chr(150)=> '-',
chr(151)=> '-',
chr(155)=> '>',
chr(160)=> ' ',
);
function cleanWin1252Text($str)
{
global $win1252ToPlainTextArray; //translate array for many dumb Windows special chars; used
for paste in textarears
$str = strtr($str, $win1252ToPlainTextArray);
$str = trim($str);
$patterns = array('%[\x7F-\x81]%', '%[\x83]%', '%[\x87-\x8A]%',
'%[\x8C-\x90]%', %[\x98-\xff]%');
return preg_replace($patterns, '', $str); //Strip
}
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I already had a function to go from weird MS-Word characters to HTML Entities,
which I was putting into the DB as such.
In retrospect, that function should have been called at output... Actually, I
knew it should have, but convincing my co-workers was the proverbial brick
wall, so I cheated and did it on data import and now I'm paying for it...
I ended up just copy-pasting the entity/number table from here:
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_entities.asp
and go through a 2-step process:
RAW DATA (pasted from Word in unknown code-page/charset/encoding)
HTML Name Entities
HTML Numeric Entities
This seemed to make the W3.org RSS validator "happy"
It still looks goofy in the browser, but that's the problem of the users
putting in this goofy stuff in the first place, so I'm shoving it back into
their laps.
My RSS feed validates, and the content within it not being "right" is the
problem of the content creators. :-)
[soapbox "on"]
I'm pretty tired of dealing with this charset/codepage stuff, personally, after
years of frustrating experiences, none ending in a real "solution"
If anybody has a petition to abolish everything except for UTF-32, sign me up!
:-v
UTF-32 is the biggest, right? The one that has ALL characters anybody needs?...
Hey, I don't care, UTF-64 or UTF-128 is fine by me too. Disk space is cheap.
Just stop the insanity of endless incompatible irreversible calculations to
substitute a bunch of numeric codes for characters, and make it socially
unacceptable to use anything other than the one true encoding.
I'm sure somebody somewhere actually enjoys dealing with this [bleep], but I'm
betting the majority are quite tired of it.
[/soapbox]
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On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 17:09 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I already had a function to go from weird MS-Word characters to HTML
> Entities, which I was putting into the DB as such.
>
>
>
> In retrospect, that function should have been called at output... Actually, I
> knew it should have, but convincing my co-workers was the proverbial brick
> wall, so I cheated and did it on data import and now I'm paying for it...
>
>
>
> I ended up just copy-pasting the entity/number table from here:
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_entities.asp
>
> and go through a 2-step process:
>
>
>
> RAW DATA (pasted from Word in unknown code-page/charset/encoding)
>
> HTML Name Entities
>
> HTML Numeric Entities
>
>
>
> This seemed to make the W3.org RSS validator "happy"
>
>
>
> It still looks goofy in the browser, but that's the problem of the users
> putting in this goofy stuff in the first place, so I'm shoving it back into
> their laps.
>
>
>
> My RSS feed validates, and the content within it not being "right" is the
> problem of the content creators. :-)
>
>
>
> [soapbox "on"]
>
> I'm pretty tired of dealing with this charset/codepage stuff, personally,
> after years of frustrating experiences, none ending in a real "solution"
>
>
>
> If anybody has a petition to abolish everything except for UTF-32, sign me
> up! :-v
>
>
>
> UTF-32 is the biggest, right? The one that has ALL characters anybody
> needs?...
>
>
>
> Hey, I don't care, UTF-64 or UTF-128 is fine by me too. Disk space is cheap.
>
>
>
> Just stop the insanity of endless incompatible irreversible calculations to
> substitute a bunch of numeric codes for characters, and make it socially
> unacceptable to use anything other than the one true encoding.
>
>
>
> I'm sure somebody somewhere actually enjoys dealing with this [bleep], but
> I'm betting the majority are quite tired of it.
>
> [/soapbox]
>
>
>
I came across a similar problem using an AJAX thing, with MSWord
characters in the text. The way round the problem was to enclose
everything inside CDATA blocks, which made the browsers happy to receive
as the entities only had to be understood by the HTML browser now, not
the XML parser. As RSS is an XML format, maybe this would help you?
Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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> I came across a similar problem using an AJAX thing, with MSWord
> characters in the text. The way round the problem was to enclose
> everything inside CDATA blocks, which made the browsers happy to
> receive as the entities only had to be understood by the HTML browser
> now, not the XML parser. As RSS is an XML format, maybe this would help
> you?
I suspect not.
The RSS+XML standard[1] seems to be quite finicky, and wrapping in CDATA block,
from what I've read, will simply make some readers/aggregators decide to not
carry the RSS feed at all.
I have no idea if "some" means "a handful" or "most" however.
But trying to maximize audience, I'm being conservative and using KISS
principle until I know more.
[1]
Actually, it's 9 different incompatible standards, with no two published RSS
standards being compatible:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/02/04/incompatible-rss
I personally found this blog post "brilliant"
YMMV
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] HTMLEntities as NUMERIC for XML
>
>
> > I came across a similar problem using an AJAX thing, with MSWord
> > characters in the text. The way round the problem was to enclose
> > everything inside CDATA blocks, which made the browsers happy to
> > receive as the entities only had to be understood by the HTML
browser
> > now, not the XML parser. As RSS is an XML format, maybe this would
> help
> > you?
>
> I suspect not.
>
> The RSS+XML standard[1] seems to be quite finicky, and wrapping in
> CDATA block, from what I've read, will simply make some
> readers/aggregators decide to not carry the RSS feed at all.
>
> I have no idea if "some" means "a handful" or "most" however.
>
> But trying to maximize audience, I'm being conservative and using KISS
> principle until I know more.
>
> [1]
> Actually, it's 9 different incompatible standards, with no two
> published RSS standards being compatible:
> http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/02/04/incompatible-rss
> I personally found this blog post "brilliant"
> YMMV
You are correct. Some feed readers will just throw everything in a
<![CDATA[]]> block away. It can be useful when you are the only one
reading/manipulating the XML ... but getting it into a "universal" code
page is the way to go if aggregators are going to be touching your
content.
My 2c,
// Todd
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Hello,
i want get https data with cURL, however just can via set
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER, false);
by the moment, i need turn curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER, true);
i got some idea is "ca certificates", however how can i do it ?
this is crt file ? can not make from openssl ? if can make from openssl, any
sample command ?
and how to use ?
i am using Windows (WIN32)
apache2.2+php5
Thank You Very Much.
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