Re: Wiki

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi Joe,

yes, I'll do that.

Thx
   Arie

Op zo 20 mei 2018 20:32 schreef Joe Bogner :

> Hi Arie - Thanks for the contribution and good suggestion on removing the
> flinux page. Can you do that for me?
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018, 10:56 AM Arie van Wingerden 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just added a Wiki page about new WSL install for Windows 10, which is
>> linked from the main page.
>>
>> Maybe the maintainer of the Flinux page should remove that, because it
>> seems invalid at the moment.
>>
>> BTW a very nice Wiki Alex!!
>>
>> Thx,
>> Arie
>>
>

Re: Wiki

[Joe Bogner]

Hi Arie - Thanks for the contribution and good suggestion on removing the
flinux page. Can you do that for me?

On Sun, May 20, 2018, 10:56 AM Arie van Wingerden  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just added a Wiki page about new WSL install for Windows 10, which is
> linked from the main page.
>
> Maybe the maintainer of the Flinux page should remove that, because it
> seems invalid at the moment.
>
> BTW a very nice Wiki Alex!!
>
> Thx,
> Arie
>

Wiki

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi,

Just added a Wiki page about new WSL install for Windows 10, which is
linked from the main page.

Maybe the maintainer of the Flinux page should remove that, because it
seems invalid at the moment.

BTW a very nice Wiki Alex!!

Thx,
Arie

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Re: Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Arie,

> Maybe this could put on the Wiki (and replace the Flinux thing, which
> appears to be broken).
> Is Alex the maintainer, or also a community thing to do this?

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Re: Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi all,

as I had to fight the first time to get WSL and PicoLisp working, I now
just overlooked the easy way ;-)

The steps involved in installing WSL/Ubuntu and PicoLisp can now be reduced
to just:


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> *Start the "Microsoft Store" App: 01. search for "Ubuntu" 02. install
> latest Ubuntu version (currently 18.04)Ubuntu Bash shell opens during last
> step: 01. you are asked for your User name and Password (twice) 02. update
> Ubuntu (packages): sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get
> dist-upgrade sudo apt autoremove sudo apt-get update 04. go into your home
> directory: cd ~ 05. install PicoLisp: sudo apt install PicoLisp*


After that everything just works fine so far.
So, WSL/Ubuntu is well behaving at the moment.

Side notes:
- I had issues with symlinks in WSL (found a lot of issues on the web as
well); maybe not yet ready for use
- question about /usr/lib vs. /usr/local/lib remains

Maybe this could put on the Wiki (and replace the Flinux thing, which
appears to be broken).
Is Alex the maintainer, or also a community thing to do this?

TIA,
   Arie

2018-05-20 12:58 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden :

> As a follow-up I attach the output of env command.
>
> 2018-05-20 12:42 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> as I found out that (already) the way WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux)
>> works has changed in a big way, I needed to update things a bit. This
>> applies to Windows 10 with latest April 2018 update.
>>
>> If you did the installation the old way, you should:
>> - remove the Linux subsystem (PowerShell as admin):
>>   lxrun /uninstall
>> - backup any stuff you need from within the rootfs to Windows dir
>> - remove the rootfs:
>>   Use the program "Search Everything" from VoidTools to find
>>   the name "rootfs" and delete that folder
>>
>> New installation goes via Microsoft Store.
>>
>> Find new WSL + PicoLisp installation attached.
>>
>> QUESTION 1:
>> I now can start picolisp from within the installation directory, but even
>> after creating symlinks I cannot get pil or picolisp to run from anywhere
>> else.
>>
>> Any help?
>>
>> QUESTION 2:
>>
>> I also found out that using /usr/lib is deprecated and that instead
>> /usr/local/lib should be used. This also applies for other paths as well.
>>
>> Should this be changed in installation instructions and/or make files?
>>
>> /Arie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

[Arie van Wingerden]

As a follow-up I attach the output of env command.

2018-05-20 12:42 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden :

> Hi,
>
> as I found out that (already) the way WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux)
> works has changed in a big way, I needed to update things a bit. This
> applies to Windows 10 with latest April 2018 update.
>
> If you did the installation the old way, you should:
> - remove the Linux subsystem (PowerShell as admin):
>   lxrun /uninstall
> - backup any stuff you need from within the rootfs to Windows dir
> - remove the rootfs:
>   Use the program "Search Everything" from VoidTools to find
>   the name "rootfs" and delete that folder
>
> New installation goes via Microsoft Store.
>
> Find new WSL + PicoLisp installation attached.
>
> QUESTION 1:
> I now can start picolisp from within the installation directory, but even
> after creating symlinks I cannot get pil or picolisp to run from anywhere
> else.
>
> Any help?
>
> QUESTION 2:
>
> I also found out that using /usr/lib is deprecated and that instead
> /usr/local/lib should be used. This also applies for other paths as well.
>
> Should this be changed in installation instructions and/or make files?
>
> /Arie
>
>
>
>
>
LS_COLORS=rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:mi=00:su=37;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arc=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lha=01;31:*.lz4=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.tlz=01;31:*.txz=01;31:*.tzo=01;31:*.t7z=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.lrz=01;31:*.lz=01;31:*.lzo=01;31:*.xz=01;31:*.zst=01;31:*.tzst=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.war=01;31:*.ear=01;31:*.sar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.alz=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.cab=01;31:*.wim=01;31:*.swm=01;31:*.dwm=01;31:*.esd=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.mjpg=01;35:*.mjpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.svgz=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.webm=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.flv=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.cgm=01;35:*.emf=01;35:*.ogv=01;35:*.ogx=01;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.m4a=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36:*.oga=00;36:*.opus=00;36:*.spx=00;36:*.xspf=00;36:
HOSTTYPE=x86_64
LESSCLOSE=/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s
LANG=C.UTF-8
USER=arie
PWD=/home/arie
HOME=/home/arie
NAME=HP-Arie
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
SHELL=/bin/bash
TERM=xterm-256color
SHLVL=1
LOGNAME=arie
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/mnt/c/Program
 Files (x86)/Intel/iCLS Client:/mnt/c/Program Files/Intel/iCLS 
Client:/mnt/c/Windows/System32:/mnt/c/Windows:/mnt/c/Windows/System32/wbem:/mnt/c/Windows/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/mnt/c/Program
 Files/Intel/Intel(R) Management Engine Components/DAL:/mnt/c/Program Files 
(x86)/Intel/Intel(R) Management Engine Components/DAL:/mnt/c/Program 
Files/Intel/Intel(R) Management Engine Components/IPT:/mnt/c/Program Files 
(x86)/Intel/Intel(R) Management Engine 
Components/IPT:/mnt/c/Windows/System32/OpenSSH:/mnt/e/_utils_/scripts:/mnt/c/Users/HP/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/mnt/c/Users/HP/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/snap/bin
LESSOPEN=| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s
_=/usr/bin/env

Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi,

as I found out that (already) the way WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux)
works has changed in a big way, I needed to update things a bit. This
applies to Windows 10 with latest April 2018 update.

If you did the installation the old way, you should:
- remove the Linux subsystem (PowerShell as admin):
  lxrun /uninstall
- backup any stuff you need from within the rootfs to Windows dir
- remove the rootfs:
  Use the program "Search Everything" from VoidTools to find
  the name "rootfs" and delete that folder

New installation goes via Microsoft Store.

Find new WSL + PicoLisp installation attached.

QUESTION 1:
I now can start picolisp from within the installation directory, but even
after creating symlinks I cannot get pil or picolisp to run from anywhere
else.

Any help?

QUESTION 2:

I also found out that using /usr/lib is deprecated and that instead
/usr/local/lib should be used. This also applies for other paths as well.

Should this be changed in installation instructions and/or make files?

/Arie
Install PicoLisp on Windows 10 64 bit using WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux)
=

Open a PowerScript shell as Admin:
01. Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName 
Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux
(reboot if required)
02. Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -FeatureName 
Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux -Online 
(reboot if required)

Start the "Microsoft Store" App:
01. search for "Ubuntu"
02. install latest Ubuntu version (currently 18.04)

Ubuntu terminal opens during last step:
01. you are asked for your User name and Password (twice)
02. update Ubuntu (packages):   
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt autoremove
sudo apt-get update
03. install a few needed packages:
sudo apt install make
sudo apt install make-guile
sudo apt install gcc
sudo apt-get install gcc-multilib g++-multilib
sudo apt-get install libssl-dev 
04. go into your home directory
cd ~
05. download and unpack PicoLisp sources:
wget https://software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz
tar xfz picolisp.tgz
rm picolisp.tgz
06. download and unpack platform specific file for 64 bit:
cd picolisp/
wget http://software-lab.de/x86-64.linux.tgz
tar xfz x86-64.linux.tgz
rm x86-64.linux.tgz
07. install PicoLisp 64 bit:
(cd src64; make)
(cd src; make tools gate)
10. create symlinks:
sudo ln -s / /usr/lib/picolisp
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/picolisp/bin/picolisp /usr/bin
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/picolisp/bin/pil /usr/bin
sudo ln -s //man/man1/picolisp.1 
/usr/share/man/man1
sudo ln -s //man/man1/pil.1 
/usr/share/man/man1
sudo ln -s / /usr/share/picolisp
11. add library to ldconfig:
sudo ldconfig /usr/lib

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Hi Arie,

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Great! Welcome back! ☺/
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