Re: Pil transformed

[George-Phillip Orais]

No problem ;)



On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:15 AM Jean-Christophe Helary <
jean.christophe.hel...@traduction-libre.org> wrote:

> Thank you George,
>
> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:39, George Orais  wrote:
>
> > Hi Jean-Christophe,
> > maybe the README file inside doc64 can help answer your question ;) one
> thing that reminds me is the namespace? The reason why is pil32 uses hash
> table for the symbol table while pil64 uses binary tree? Not so sure but
> something like that :)
>
> Ok then, way over my head then :) But thank you for the pointer :)
>
>
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Re: Pil transformed

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Thank you George,

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:39, George Orais  wrote:

> Hi Jean-Christophe, 
> maybe the README file inside doc64 can help answer your question ;) one thing 
> that reminds me is the namespace? The reason why is pil32 uses hash table for 
> the symbol table while pil64 uses binary tree? Not so sure but something like 
> that :)

Ok then, way over my head then :) But thank you for the pointer :)


Jean-Christophe Helary
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Re: Pil transformed

[George Orais]

Hi Andras, 
this is super cool! Thanks for sharing!


Hi Jean-Christophe, 
maybe the README file inside doc64 can help answer your question ;) one thing 
that reminds me is the namespace? The reason why is pil32 uses hash table for 
the symbol table while pil64 uses binary tree? Not so sure but something like 
that :)


BR,
Geo




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Re: Pil transformed

[George-Phillip Orais]

Hi Andras,
this is super cool! Thanks for sharing!


Hi Jean-Christophe,
maybe the README file inside doc64 can help answer your question ;) one
thing that reminds me is the namespace? The reason why is pil32 uses hash
table for the symbol table while pil64 uses binary tree? Not so sure but
something like that :)


BR,
Geo

Re: Pil transformed

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Andras,

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:02, Andras Pahi  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have changed the 32bit pil version written in C to compile in 64bit mode
> and to support short numbers encoded in the pointers themselves.
> That means that (== 64 64) is T for both the 32bit and the 64bit version.

Well, I tried to build it on macos 10.15 and, as far as I can tell, it works :)

I was a bit emotional when I tried so I actually ran pil by using the full 
path, and OMG it worked !!! :)

> It passes the picoLisp test suite and tankf33der’ test suite as well.
> The tests should be modified to detect this particular version with
> (and *CPU (== 64 64)) because it does not support the constructs of pil64.
> 
> No doubt pil64 still has the performance advantage, running tankf33der’s
> Test suite:
> 
> pil64 9m40s
> pil, 64bit 14m 
> pil, 32bit 18m40s
> 
> If anyone is interested the sources can be found at 
> https://github.com/pahihu/picoLisp

Is there any other thing that we'd get from pil64 and that we don't get from 
that new pil32 ? I'm not sure I understand the implications (which might as 
well mean that, hey, it should work for my purposes ;)

> Happy Lisping!

Thank you so much !!!


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Pil transformed

[Andras Pahi]

Hi all,

I have changed the 32bit pil version written in C to compile in 64bit mode
and to support short numbers encoded in the pointers themselves.
That means that (== 64 64) is T for both the 32bit and the 64bit version.

It passes the picoLisp test suite and tankf33der’ test suite as well.
The tests should be modified to detect this particular version with
(and *CPU (== 64 64)) because it does not support the constructs of pil64.

No doubt pil64 still has the performance advantage, running tankf33der’s
Test suite:

pil64 9m40s
pil, 64bit 14m 
pil, 32bit 18m40s

If anyone is interested the sources can be found at 
https://github.com/pahihu/picoLisp 

Happy Lisping!

Andras

Re: PilCon 2020

[Bruno Franco]

I am interested too in an online conference. Its the only way I could
attend anyways. And saving it up for playback on youtube interests me.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:58 AM O.Hamann  wrote:

> Timely, short, clear communication, thank you for that, Alex.
>
>
> I do not really have any real experience with video conferences,
>
> but last year I attended a few presentations of a software conference
> via web and it was quite fun and very inspiring.
>
> So thumbs up for your idea - but all I could offer to make that happen
> is a little donation for bandwidth or hardware rental or so.
>
>
> I would appreciate the opportunity to see some infos concerning pil21
>
> or possibly to watch what others are working on with picolisp.
>
>
> Perhaps such a video conference could be a better chance for those who
> don't live in Germany
>
> to show sth to the community, which would be otherwise 'not worth' to
> travel around for.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olaf
>
>
>
>
> On 22.04.20 07:00, Alexander Burger wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > yesterday the Oktoberfest, the largest annual event in Bavaria, was
> canceled.
> >
> > I think we will also have to cancel the other large event, PilCon. It is
> not
> > sure whether such events will be allowed legally by end of July, and how
> the
> > international travel situation will be.
> >
> > I hope this is OK for everybody.
> >
> > Would it make sense to plan an online conference instead? We are playing
> around
> > with Jitsi Meet currently. Any thoughts?
> >
> > ☺/ A!ex
> >
>
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Re: PilCon 2020

[O.Hamann]

Timely, short, clear communication, thank you for that, Alex.


I do not really have any real experience with video conferences,

but last year I attended a few presentations of a software conference
via web and it was quite fun and very inspiring.

So thumbs up for your idea - but all I could offer to make that happen
is a little donation for bandwidth or hardware rental or so.


I would appreciate the opportunity to see some infos concerning pil21

or possibly to watch what others are working on with picolisp.


Perhaps such a video conference could be a better chance for those who
don't live in Germany

to show sth to the community, which would be otherwise 'not worth' to
travel around for.


Kind regards,

Olaf




On 22.04.20 07:00, Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> yesterday the Oktoberfest, the largest annual event in Bavaria, was canceled.
>
> I think we will also have to cancel the other large event, PilCon. It is not
> sure whether such events will be allowed legally by end of July, and how the
> international travel situation will be.
>
> I hope this is OK for everybody.
>
> Would it make sense to plan an online conference instead? We are playing 
> around
> with Jitsi Meet currently. Any thoughts?
>
> ☺/ A!ex
>


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