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Re: Wiki modifications
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 12:04:37AM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > > Did you try to upload with the second button? > > > > "Upload CSS File (wiki.css)" > > Ok, let me describe what I did: > > • → https://picolisp.com/wiki/?home > • login > • → my account > • → Documents > • [New] → click > • [Choose file] > • (select wiki.css) > • Specify a name → wiki.css > • [Upload directly] → click > > And nothing visible happens... Ah, sorry! After "my account" not Documents but the "Upload" menu item (between User Administration and Helz). There you are two file choosers. The second one is "Upload CSS File (wiki.css)". ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Wiki modifications
> On Sep 8, 2021, at 22:19, Alexander Burger wrote: > > Hi Jean-Christophe, > >> I think the file is uploaded now. > > Hmm, are you sure? On the server I still have the old version > from 2020-12-13 12:22:26 > > Did you try to upload with the second button? > > "Upload CSS File (wiki.css)" Ok, let me describe what I did: • → https://picolisp.com/wiki/?home • login • → my account • → Documents • [New] → click • [Choose file] • (select wiki.css) • Specify a name → wiki.css • [Upload directly] → click And nothing visible happens... -- Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune https://mac4translators.blogspot.com https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/ -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: New blog - "PicoLisp for beginners"
Fun Arg Problem?! On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 16:11 O.Hamann wrote: > Welcome Mia! > > I followed the steps of your install pil21 on win10/WSL blog post - and > it worked fine, thanks for putting all (WSL+Linux+pil21) together in one > recipe. > > (I only had to do a 'sudo apt update' before Ubuntu did install the llvm) > > > > Reading over your nice list of planned topics, 'Segmentation Fault' and > 'Dynamic Binding' come to my mind. > > An application / commandline tool quitting with segfault is so very > uncommon nowadays, that new friends of picolisp might think more of a > 'faulty program' than conscious design decisions of the picolisp author. > > Writing the first experimental code lines in a file on disk and > loading it with 'pil mycode.l +' helped me a lot to lower my frustration > about having typed in 10 lines of code in the REPL which were all wiped > out by my false function calls in the beginning. > > > > > 'Dynamic Binding' is rarely used today, I guess, and might lead to > trouble for experienced programmers, who come from other languages, > which follow the 'lexical binding' paradigm(?). > > There was a PilCon talk on this and I tried to find a simple rule, > how to avoid problems or how to recognize in advance if problems would > occur, but I do not have that present. Perhaps we could raise this > topic in the mailing list again one day. > > So this could be an entry with question mark (I'm not really sure how > relevant this topic is) in your nice content list. > > > Keep on writing :-) > > Kind Regards, > Olaf > > > > > > > On 01.09.21 11:57, Mia Burger wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm Mia, one of Alex' daughters, nice to meet you! > > > > I started to play around with PicoLisp a few months ago. So I checked > > the available resources, and after a while I thought it might be good to > > have a little bit more "beginner's level" content, with a low threshold > > and fun to read. Because I feel that a lot of it is already quite > > advanced (or of rather mixed difficulty), which can be quite frustrating
Re: New blog - "PicoLisp for beginners"
Welcome Mia! I followed the steps of your install pil21 on win10/WSL blog post - and it worked fine, thanks for putting all (WSL+Linux+pil21) together in one recipe. (I only had to do a 'sudo apt update' before Ubuntu did install the llvm) Reading over your nice list of planned topics, 'Segmentation Fault' and 'Dynamic Binding' come to my mind. An application / commandline tool quitting with segfault is so very uncommon nowadays, that new friends of picolisp might think more of a 'faulty program' than conscious design decisions of the picolisp author. Writing the first experimental code lines in a file on disk and loading it with 'pil mycode.l +' helped me a lot to lower my frustration about having typed in 10 lines of code in the REPL which were all wiped out by my false function calls in the beginning. 'Dynamic Binding' is rarely used today, I guess, and might lead to trouble for experienced programmers, who come from other languages, which follow the 'lexical binding' paradigm(?). There was a PilCon talk on this and I tried to find a simple rule, how to avoid problems or how to recognize in advance if problems would occur, but I do not have that present. Perhaps we could raise this topic in the mailing list again one day. So this could be an entry with question mark (I'm not really sure how relevant this topic is) in your nice content list. Keep on writing :-) Kind Regards, Olaf On 01.09.21 11:57, Mia Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm Mia, one of Alex' daughters, nice to meet you! > > I started to play around with PicoLisp a few months ago. So I checked > the available resources, and after a while I thought it might be good to > have a little bit more "beginner's level" content, with a low threshold > and fun to read. Because I feel that a lot of it is already quite > advanced (or of rather mixed difficulty), which can be quite frustrating
Re: Wiki modifications
Hi Jean-Christophe, > I think the file is uploaded now. Hmm, are you sure? On the server I still have the old version from 2020-12-13 12:22:26 Did you try to upload with the second button? "Upload CSS File (wiki.css)" If so, it directly copies the uploaded file to wiki/wiki.css Please try again, I'm looking forward to your improvements :) (for the records: The current version is https://software-lab.de/wiki.tgz) ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Wiki modifications
On 06.09.21 14:01, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > 4) I added an "Alternative repository install for macOS" page > https://picolisp.com/wiki/?alternativeMacOSRepository Thank you very much for providing und publishing this! I was able to install a pil21 version on macOS 11.5.2 following the steps of your Howto. There was one message because of not finding pkg-config, but that seems to be acceptable, as /pil @lib/tests.l + finishes with: OK and it was possible to start the documentation index on localhost:8080 cd pil21/doc ./pil @lib/http.l @lib/xhtml.l @lib/form.l --server 8080 index.html -wait (-wait on same line after index.html) So thank you very much for providing and publishing this clear step-by-step instructions! -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Wiki modifications
Alex, I think the file is uploaded now. I don't want to fiddle too much with the Hn sizes, so what I did is comment out the size parts so that the sizes are taken from the default HTML css with sets them in em, and not in px. That way, there is no real need to use a @media directive for bigger screen sizes. I've checked the wiki with the HTML defaults and there is a good separation between the sizes and the wiki blue color still clearly identifies the parts as headers. As far as I can tell, the site looks more structured this way. But I don't want to force my opinion on others, so feel free to revert, or make further changes. I like css a lot. I've created a personal css for the gnu emacs manuals that uses all the default "hooks" found in the texi conversion. It's not much (and it's not possible to have elisp syntax coloring) but I think it looks way better than the original: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Predicates-for-Strings.html https://doublet.jp/gnu%20html/elisp/Predicates-for-Strings.html JC > On Sep 7, 2021, at 0:28, Alexander Burger wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 12:08:57AM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >> I've logged in to the Wiki interface but I'm not sure where I'd upload the >> modified file. > > There is an "Upload" menu item in the GUI. There the Logo and wiki.css files > can > be uploaded :) > > ☺/ A!ex > > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe -- Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune https://mac4translators.blogspot.com https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/ -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
