Re: building pilos
> > > > > (using UART for io using --serial stdio option in qemu). The drivers/rest > > of the kernel infrastructure could then be crowd sourced :) > > Will you give it a try? > I think that I am close to doing it with miniPicoLisp :) > You mean Pil64 and PilOS? (Beause pil21 has no assembly sources) > > The sources of Pil64 and PilOS *are* Lisp files. They are evaluated via > 'load' > in "src64/mkAsm.l". That's why I said in the last mail that a running > PicoLisp > is nneded to bootstrap the build. > > I think I misunderstood. I'll get back to this later. Regards, Kashyap > >
Re: building pilos
On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 08:53:23AM -0700, C K Kashyap wrote: > How about something that runs on qemu using a bootloader like limine/grub? > It could be really vanilla without even the need for a keyboard driver > (using UART for io using --serial stdio option in qemu). The drivers/rest > of the kernel infrastructure could then be crowd sourced :) Will you give it a try? > Btw .. perhaps you have already answered this but, does it make sense to > have a different extension for the assembly files? Technically, I don't > believe that they are plicolisp sources right? You mean Pil64 and PilOS? (Beause pil21 has no assembly sources) The sources of Pil64 and PilOS *are* Lisp files. They are evaluated via 'load' in "src64/mkAsm.l". That's why I said in the last mail that a running PicoLisp is nneded to bootstrap the build. ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: building pilos
How about something that runs on qemu using a bootloader like limine/grub? It could be really vanilla without even the need for a keyboard driver (using UART for io using --serial stdio option in qemu). The drivers/rest of the kernel infrastructure could then be crowd sourced :) Btw .. perhaps you have already answered this but, does it make sense to have a different extension for the assembly files? Technically, I don't believe that they are plicolisp sources right? Regards, Kashyap On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 8:03 AM Alexander Burger wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 07:32:26AM -0700, C K Kashyap wrote: > > Any chance that we could expect a pil21 based pilos? > > This would indeed be fascinating. Perhaps there is some LLVM backend to > Verilog? > But PilOS is a huge task, and needs lots of drivers etc. for some target > hardware. I have no hope for the near future. > > > > I had not been watching pil21 for a while - I looked at it now and I > really > > liked "lib.c" :) If I understood right, then all the platform > > dependencies are in there (atleast as far as the picolisp executable) > > Yes, this is correct. In that way it is possible to distribute the > pre-built > *.ll files, and a running PicoLisp is no longer needed to bootstrap the > build. > > ☺/ A!ex > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
Re: building pilos
On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 07:32:26AM -0700, C K Kashyap wrote: > Any chance that we could expect a pil21 based pilos? This would indeed be fascinating. Perhaps there is some LLVM backend to Verilog? But PilOS is a huge task, and needs lots of drivers etc. for some target hardware. I have no hope for the near future. > I had not been watching pil21 for a while - I looked at it now and I really > liked "lib.c" :) If I understood right, then all the platform > dependencies are in there (atleast as far as the picolisp executable) Yes, this is correct. In that way it is possible to distribute the pre-built *.ll files, and a running PicoLisp is no longer needed to bootstrap the build. ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: building pilos
Thanks Alex, Any chance that we could expect a pil21 based pilos? I had not been watching pil21 for a while - I looked at it now and I really liked "lib.c" :) If I understood right, then all the platform dependencies are in there (atleast as far as the picolisp executable) On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:09 AM Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Kashyap, > > > It looks like pilos build may be broken :( I think it has dependency on > > pil64. > > This may well be. PilOS is built by PicoLisp, and is a modified and > partially > scaled down version of Pil64. > > ☺/ A!ex > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
Re: building pilos
Hi Kashyap, > It looks like pilos build may be broken :( I think it has dependency on > pil64. This may well be. PilOS is built by PicoLisp, and is a modified and partially scaled down version of Pil64. ☺/ A!ex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
building pilos
Hey Alex, It looks like pilos build may be broken :( I think it has dependency on pil64. I will take a look more later but it would be great if you could share the updated instructions :) Regards, Kashyap
