Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35 mm pinhole camera

2002-10-16 Thread Joao Ribeiro
Hi Zami,

Sorry for the late reply.
The pinholes are 55 mm f 166 with a pinhole diameter of about 0.33 mm
and a 105 mm f 318.
Actually I prefer zone plate 35 mm photography, I don't like 35 mm
pinholes (At least I don't like mine).
I'll keep using the 4x5 cameras with pinhole. I transformed the 35 mm
pinholes into 2 new plastic lens to use with the camera. Now with this
35 mm camera and the extension bellows I am using 55 and 105 mm zone
plates and 390, 210 and 150 mm plastic lens, one of them in even a
composition of a positive and negative lens to give me a usable focal
distance.
Cheers
Joao

Zami Schwartzman wrote:

  Joaothanks for your reply Did you try a pinhole with it ? I wander
 whe hole size and focal lengt and what are the resultsZami

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  [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of
  Joao Ribeiro
  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 12:35 AM
  To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
  Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 35 mm pinhole camera
  Hi Zami,

  I have an old Yashica XYZ, I don't really remember the
  specs, but I found an adapter to use pentax thread lenses
  with it (it transforms the bayonet into a thread).
  I had some aluminum tubes made to fit this thread, so now it
  is easy to change focal distances and/or transform from Zone
  Plate to pinhole in no time. I even made a 300 mm plastic
  lens with an old pentax extension bellows, the aluminum tube
  and some black tape and it is working pretty well.
  Cheers
  Joao

  Zami Schwartzman wrote:

  Anyone has tried converting a 35 mm camera to pinhole ?
 
  I have modified  an old Pentax  Spotmatics Reflex camera ,
  the idea was that
  using a 35 mm format will make it easier to experiment
  with various types of
  films . film drive , sutter timing , tripod attachement
  and  release cable
  are already there  and any local photo shop will process
  the films  for me .
  I turned a lens boby on my lath that allows the metal
  foil be located 28
  mm from the film .
  I discovered that  with this camera  I can flip the mirror
  up permanently
  without disabling other camera functions ( except for the
  viewfinder that
  obviously is shut off )
 
  I use 0.02 mm copper foil .The pinhole  was made under a
  x70 stereo
  microscope by using a very sharp pin ( honed under the
  microscope  ) on hard
  back surface .
  the buurs on the oposit side had  to be very carefuly
  treated with no. 400
  sandpaper to get a perfect hole . Although not a sraight
  forward job , I can
  get perfect holes as small as 0.05 mm diameter ( I have
  scale on the
  microscope )  . there is no chance to get any smaller with
  manual pin
  puncturing tecniques .
 
  I experimented with a 0.1 mm hole , got some good close up
  pictures well
  exposed with Kodak gold 400 ASA( using f: 120 on the light
  meter ) but the
  results are  quite  out of focus  on 10x15  prints .
 
  I wander if going  further to a 0.05 hole will worth the
  panelty in  the f
  number .
  Is there an  optimun hole size  for best sharpness ?  or
  is it the smaller
  the better .
 
  I hear that some people are converting plastic 35 mm
  cameras  , I wander
  what holes they use  and how sharp is the resultant image
  they get .
 
  Zami
 
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  [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of
  DAVID WALTERS
  Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:29 AM
  To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
  Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: New to the list and
  saying hello
 
  Evening, I apologize for the lag time on answering but
  I had a brief episode of file overload while trying to
  upload some pics (Sorry and thanks, Gregg). I have a
  pinhole from my last roll posted at
 
  
 http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wal...@prodigy.net/lst?.dir=/Photo+art.src=ph;.
 
  order=.view=t.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
  (badge), along with some other pieces of mine. The
  body cap is on my Canon EOS, I measured the distance
  at 49 mm and I'm using a laser drilled opening of
  .0102, this gives an f/stop of 163, I reckon. Using
  the bulb setting has given me fairly good results with
  Kodak film, although it seems to be able to meter
  through the pinhole. The Polaroid pinholes are from a
  Polaroid 210 with a hand drilled pinhole, I had such a
  bad rolloff because of reciprocity that I have stuck
  with B/W since. I might go back to color with the 210
  and stick to extreme sun in the future, we'll see.
  Thanks for the welcome, David 

Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4x5 film

2002-10-16 Thread erickson
Readyloads. See at www.calumetphoto.com

- Original Message - 
From: Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 4x5 film


 hi,
 
 after using 4x5 film holders with my pinhole while
 traveling, I am very interested in the film that is
 already in a holder. I can't remember the name of it. 
 
 does anyone have information about what I am trying to
 describe???
 
 So instead of having to load the film into a holder
 you can buy a pack of film in its own holder.
 
 I am interested in black and white film, 100 speed.
 
 curious where to buy it, and how many come in a pack.
 
 Some people where talking about it a while back, but I
 have deleted the information.
 
 also:
 
 I'm looking through my first pinhole images, and most
 of them were handheld 45 second eposure, so they look
 hazey/ slightly blurred which I love.
 
 I am considering printing sizes as I am planning on
 having a show of these images.
 
 But I am curious about how much more blurred it will
 be if I blow them up really large. I will most likely
 lose alot of the detail, and they may look really
 blown out
 
 But because they are images with castles in them, they
 just scream at me to be bigger. Does anyone have
 experience printing this type of image large? Did you
 lose the image quality so much that it wasn't worth
 the enlargement???
 
 Curious before i get started.
 
 also:
 
 has anyone used alternative methods of printing
 such as kallitype? Or salt printing? Interested in
 creating more depth / and using an old method of
 printing for these castles.
 
 thank you !
 
 Catherine
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole Origins

2002-10-16 Thread RObrien630
Kurt, you would have to order a copy from Proquest
Renee



Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4x5 film

2002-10-16 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Hi:

Salt printing is one of the easiest alternative processes - (cyanotype is
the easiest)

One of the best books on salt printing (and albumen printing) is

The Albumen and Salted Paper Book by James Reilly - its out of print but
is available online as a web page at:

http://albumen.stanford.edu/library/monographs/reilly/

Also see:

George L. Smyth's altprocess page

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/AltProcess/Articles/AltArticles.htm


For an introduction to alt-process see

http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg/photo/faq.html

For everything you ever wanted to know about alternative processes see the
alt-photo-process mailing list archive

http://www.usask.ca/lists/alt-photo-process/

Gord (who manages to alt-photo-process list :) )

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Catherine Just wrote:

 also:

 has anyone used alternative methods of printing
 such as kallitype? Or salt printing? Interested in
 creating more depth / and using an old method of
 printing for these castles.

 thank you !

 Catherine

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4x5 film

2002-10-16 Thread Jeff Dilcher
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Catherine Just wrote:

 hi,

 after using 4x5 film holders with my pinhole while
 traveling, I am very interested in the film that is
 already in a holder. I can't remember the name of it.



I think you are referring to the readyload packs from Kodak.
I use TMAX ones for black and white.  They are substantially
more expensive than traditional film packages, but you can't
beat the convenience of not having to load and unload in
a dark place.  Also, your film stays cleaner and is less likely
to get scratched, in my experience.

Check this document:

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/pubs/kic/kic92753/kic92753.pdf




[pinhole-discussion] Was 1: Is This Nuts? Now: Triboluminescence!

2002-10-16 Thread John Moore
Okay, time to look this up!

http://www.towson.edu/~sweeting/wg/candywww.htm

Fascinating study on triboluminescence... includes
photos (somehow stays on topic?).

John Moore
Ramona, CA

--- erick...@hickorytech.net wrote:
 I think I remember that the general technical term
 for the phenomenon we're talking about is
piezoelectric.

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1: Is This Nuts?
 Dear All,

 Thank you for the reassuring psychiatric evaluation,
for a 
 new word and the desire for a new experience with
 wintergreen lifesavers.  If the lifesavers came in
little tins, 
 this email thread could come full circle.
 Tom
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Achal Pashine Tuesday, October 15, 2002
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1: Is This Nuts?
 
 Do you mean, triboluminescence of Lifesaver??
 achal.


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4x5 film

2002-10-16 Thread Margaret Graham
The film type is referred to as 'quickload' or 'readyload', depending on
the manufacturer, and generally comes in b/w, color neg and color
transparency.  It fits a 4x5 Polaroid back and functions similarly to
Polaroid sheets in the way the paper functions like a dark slide.  It's
much more expensive than traditional sheet film, as you're paying for
the convenience.  Any major supplier should carry it; try bhphoto.com in
NYC.

Enjoy and good luck,
Margaret Graham

Catherine Just wrote:

 hi,

 after using 4x5 film holders with my pinhole while
 traveling, I am very interested in the film that is
 already in a holder. I can't remember the name of it.

 does anyone have information about what I am trying to
 describe???

 So instead of having to load the film into a holder
 you can buy a pack of film in its own holder.

 I am interested in black and white film, 100 speed.

 curious where to buy it, and how many come in a pack.

 Some people where talking about it a while back, but I
 have deleted the information.

 also:

 I'm looking through my first pinhole images, and most
 of them were handheld 45 second eposure, so they look
 hazey/ slightly blurred which I love.

 I am considering printing sizes as I am planning on
 having a show of these images.

 But I am curious about how much more blurred it will
 be if I blow them up really large. I will most likely
 lose alot of the detail, and they may look really
 blown out

 But because they are images with castles in them, they
 just scream at me to be bigger. Does anyone have
 experience printing this type of image large? Did you
 lose the image quality so much that it wasn't worth
 the enlargement???

 Curious before i get started.

 also:

 has anyone used alternative methods of printing
 such as kallitype? Or salt printing? Interested in
 creating more depth / and using an old method of
 printing for these castles.

 thank you !

 Catherine

 =
 Catherine Just Photography
 http://www.catherinejust.com

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[pinhole-discussion] 4x5 film

2002-10-16 Thread Catherine Just
hi,

after using 4x5 film holders with my pinhole while
traveling, I am very interested in the film that is
already in a holder. I can't remember the name of it. 

does anyone have information about what I am trying to
describe???

So instead of having to load the film into a holder
you can buy a pack of film in its own holder.

I am interested in black and white film, 100 speed.

curious where to buy it, and how many come in a pack.

Some people where talking about it a while back, but I
have deleted the information.

also:

I'm looking through my first pinhole images, and most
of them were handheld 45 second eposure, so they look
hazey/ slightly blurred which I love.

I am considering printing sizes as I am planning on
having a show of these images.

But I am curious about how much more blurred it will
be if I blow them up really large. I will most likely
lose alot of the detail, and they may look really
blown out

But because they are images with castles in them, they
just scream at me to be bigger. Does anyone have
experience printing this type of image large? Did you
lose the image quality so much that it wasn't worth
the enlargement???

Curious before i get started.

also:

has anyone used alternative methods of printing
such as kallitype? Or salt printing? Interested in
creating more depth / and using an old method of
printing for these castles.

thank you !

Catherine

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http://www.catherinejust.com

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1: Is This Nuts? 2: A Plug

2002-10-16 Thread erickson
I think I remember that the general technical term for the phenomenon we're
talking about is piezoelectric.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1: Is This Nuts? 2: A Plug


 Dear All,

 Thank you for the reassuring psychiatric evaluation, for a new word
 and the desire for a new experience with wintergreen lifesavers.  If
 the lifesavers came in little tins, this email thread could come full
 circle.

 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Achal Pashine Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1: Is This Nuts? 2: A Plug


  Do you mean, triboluminescence of Lifesaver??
  achal.
 
   --- Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net wrote:
Dear List Members,
   
1:  I've noticed that when pulling electrician's
tape off the roll in
complete darkness there is a small greenish light at
the spot where
the tape is pulling off the roll.  Recently, I made
   ..snip..
   Oh, I see that too.  I forget the technical name for
   it, but I remember doing an experiment in high school
   where you cracked a wintergreen lifesaver in the dark
   and it created a similar brief light -- imagine 30
   high school students breaking lifesavers in the dark.
   Brave teacher, no?   I think it's the same
   physics/chemistry involved.
  



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