RE: [pinhole-discussion] Panorama printing question static

[I Zarkov]

Yes, using a larger format enlarger is the solution. I  have been using an 
Omeda D2V for years, had a mask cut at a machine shop as an insert plate for 
the 4x5 negative carrier and print 3 35mm frame sequences. Works great for 
sequential frames or panoramic compositions. You might try handling your 
film on anti-stat mats that are grounded as are used in computer repair 
situations or perhaps wiping the film with an anti-stat cloth prior to 
loading into your cameras might reduce static.


God bless the master of this house and the mistress also,
And the little children that round your table grow,
The cattle in your stable, the dog by your front door,
And all that dwell within your gates, we wish you ten times more

A happy, peace-filled and productive year to all.

Peter



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!

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Oh, but a least this is better than arguing about who's the better webmaster
:-) Z (-:


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] digital wonderings

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Lisa has expressed exactly my apprehensions about what I read here daily 
about the marriage of the digital with the pinhole. I began doing pinhole 12 
years ago because I was already at that point disgusted with the critical 
discourse that was then emerging as to how digital imagery would replace 
film and what the inherent nature of the photographic art was, if indeed 
there is such a thing as an 'inherent' nature of this process of image 
making.
There seem to be multiple issues implicit within this discussion: the nature 
of the recording matrix, film vs. hard drives  memory sticks, the medium of 
display: paper vs. cathode ray tubes; the capture device: lenses vs pinhole; 
as well as ink vs light sensitive salts, photons vs 0's  1's, Pythagoreans 
vs Neo-Platonists [well, maybe] alchemists vs. positivists.
While I understand entirely the allure that the digital choice offers, I've 
never been able to shake the feeling that the prime reason for my doing 
pinhole work was to restore the 'aura' to the photographic print that Walter 
Benjamin says was lost to photography  in his essay The Work of Art in the 
Age of Mechanical Reproduction There is nothing about using digital media 
that reinvests the print with that sense of the unique that chemical image 
making allows, especially when one is involved with elaborate bleaching and 
toning ‘post-processing’ of the print.
I feel that  the fundamental difference between digital and wet photography 
has more to do with our understanding of and complicity with time in the 
art-making process more than the media of reproduction and that digital 
manipulation of images further subverts a correspondence relationship 
between an external world and what is presented as a photographic truth.
The conundrum to all of this discussion is that this dialogue/disagreement 
would not be possible without our computers, networks, CRT’s or plasma 
screens and software galore. It’s too darn  hard to throw a ‘sabot’ into the 
CD-ROM drive.

Peter
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Question on image circle and medium format pinhole camera design

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The recent discussion re the circle and vignetting and falloff leads me to 
post this.

I have been using this camera [upload gallery
http://www.???/discussion/upload/ 
gallery2002.php?pic=donahoe_camera.jpg  ] and others like it for about 12 
years now. I wouldn't think of using anything else for doing pinhole work. 
The barrel is about 6 though others I use are 4 1/2 and 3 focal lengths, 
a good range of 'tele', 'normal' and 'wide' angle; no issues of falloff or 
change of density as you approach the edges since only a small part of the 
optical 'circle' is used. The pinholes were made by using either a #10 or 
#12 sewing needle - sorry no laser drilled exactitude :-) and a tip of the 
hat to Jim Shull's book too.
I began using these cameras as I am sure most people on the list have: to 
get back to a simpler more direct means of making photographs. But trying to 
compose on the circle rather than the rectilinear frame and anticipating 
what may fall within the field of vision - how to use the near foreground 
and sky - has kept me with them.
For an example of my work with this camera see the gallery at 
Pinholeformat.com [http://www.pinholeformat.com/peterdgal1.html ]

Embrace the Great Circle in the Little Box!
Peter Donahoe

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space

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Actually Steve, I thought that 'authentic space' aptly describes what 
pinhole photography does best: the least-'mediated' form of optical 
representation possible, the least mechanically altered form of vision 
between the object and its representation.

Just my .02USD
-Z-

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Tim Rudman Book

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Thanks to all who supplied possible online book sellers listing Tim Rudman's 
The Master Photographer's Lith Printing Course: A Definitive Guide to 
Creative Lith Printing  However each and every one is Out of Stock with 
uncertain dates for reorder. Have tried all the usual suspects on the 
internet. Call to publisher: 'out of stock' = out of print. If anyone, 
especially those who have posted images recently using lith developing, know 
of used book source, I would be grateful for the information. You may 
contact off list if preferred.

Thanks to all for their help.
Ishmael Zarkov


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole size

[I Zarkov]

Achal,

Hello I. Zarkov! (it is Igor?)

Call me Ishmael...
Thanks for the links, will explore further.
:-] = Z




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[pinhole-discussion] Tim Rudman Book

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Hello to all,
Does anyone know of a U.S. supplier that has a copy of the Tim Rudman book 
on Lith printing? Amazon lists it, but with a 5 week delivery time. Online 
search only finds me UK bookstores.

Many thanks,
Zarkov




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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Test

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World Series look provincial.

WHAT! WHAT! Have you no sense of proportion, sir?
It's Inter-league play week and the Mets took the Yankees 2 games to 1! 
Never mind this nonsense of 12 guys out standing in a field kicking a 
beachball around.

Harumpf!
Zarkov

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] FIlm reciprocity

[I Zarkov]

A good solution to deal with proper development after a reciprocity-adjusted 
exposure is to use a compensation developer like Accufine. I expose HP5+ 
sheeet film and develop close to the indicated times for EI 800 and the 
results are well detailed, if slightly flat negatives and print on Forte 
Fortezo #3 paper or something similar.
The theory is that compensation developers exhaust themselves in the 
highlights while continuing to develop up the shadow areas. I use Accufine 
replenisher to keep the solution active and have been using the same 
solution for almost a year now - not a bad thing when you have a well and 
septic system rather than municipal water/waste systems, no spent developer 
to deal with. TMax R.S. also is good in that regard, if you want the higher 
contrast negatives that TMY  TMX are prone to give and their lesser 
reciprocity adjustments.

Z

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers

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I agreee totally about getting an Omega D series enlarger. I've had a D2V 
for about 20 years now and it's still great. Just found a point source head 
for it and will be printing electron microscope negatives. Extremely 
versatile assortment of heads: cold light, condenser, color fits many needs, 
worth the cost. IF you want to enlarges neg to larger dimensions get the 
longer column.
Always good to look locally if you can to avoid higher shipping costs. Save 
the $ and invest in a good lens. Look for a package deal as the additional 
parts- negative holders, lens cones, replacement condensers can get a bit 
pricey if bought separately. I found it cheaper to have a machine shop cut 
me neagive carriers than pay the photo-shop price.

Good luck,
Z

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] United States airline screening and film

[I Zarkov]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned using the lead shielded film bags 
for airline travel. I went to France in Nov. and carried 4x5 HP5+ and TMax 
100 120mm film. No hassle whatever and no ill effects to the film either 
way.


Sally, if you're in France in July see the following 
http://www.rencontres-arles.com/ The Recontres is one of the biggest 
photographic events in Europe. Perhaps some of our French listers can 
recommend more.


'Z'

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole is not about sharpness?

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Optical resolution is only one of many formal categories that one can have 
'disagreement' over. We can prefer and promote the circular to the 
rectilinear, the completely digital free to the photoshop enhanced, the 
laser drilled to a #12 sewing needle or a tin can to a handsomely crafted 
commercial model.
What counts most is the continuing 'discussion' going on in the WWPD 
gallery. Such a global conversation. SO much good work.

Keep talking and shooting.

Zarkov

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Great image Jeff! Personally I try my best to get sharpness..Here's a couple I took with a SnapDragon 4x5 pinhole camera One of my customers traded meit for one of my modified Holgas.I'm sure I got the better end of the deal..
http://www.holgamods.com/snapdragon/gallery/canal/canal.htmlhttp://www.holgamods.com/snapdragon/gallery/mill/mill.html
Randy
www.holgamods.comModified Holgas and PinHolgas

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That is a heck of a good image, my idea of an ideal pinhole image, well
executed no matter what the apeture.

Mitch Guthrie


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Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 16:35:01 +0100


 
  On Tuesday 07 May 2002 09:51 pm, michael_georg...@trendmicro.com
wrote:
  Perhaps the majority of pinhole is not at all concerned with
sharpness.
  There are many, many of what I consider Pictorial shooters,
achieving
great
  soft images, some very dreamlike. Very nice stuff! (eg:
Davison's The
  Onion Field, etc, etc). The WWPD gallery is full of great, soft
pinhole
  images.
 
 
  I have had people who couldn't believe that some Finney pics I
made
  were actually pinhole, due to sharpness. Using the "correct"
focal
length and
  aperature, I was able to get this amount of detail:
 
 
http://hiddenworld.net:81/pinhole/?cmd=maxstart=pic=blackbeard.jpg
 
  I don't mind not having "razor" sharpness, but I like a certain
level of
  clarity...


I like you picture Jeff


Alexis


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[pinhole-discussion] Hudson Valley

[I Zarkov]

Are there any pinholers in the Hudson Valley in New York State that may be 
planning an event for World Pinhole Day? Would like to participate if 
someone is setting someting up.

Regards,
Z

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity and TMY film

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Guillermo,
Your persistence is admirable.
Yes TMY does need very much less compensation than my usual HP5+ as I found 
out in trying to print bullet-proof 120mm film negs. I had to develop for 
the general exposures on the roll and not the 300sec. exposures done inside 
an almost completely darkened medieval chapel with just a glint of light 
thru narrow windows.
Thanks for the url for the chart from Kodak. As it is, I have been plotting 
the curve on an excel spread sheet for TMY  and playing connect the dots. 
Thanks for the reminder that it is indeed a curve and not a straight line.
And cheers for that AXIS OF EVIL: Hurter and Driffield, those demons of the 
d log e curve.

Ishmael Zarkov


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity and TMY film

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Guillermo,
Thanks for the times. I'll give them a try.
Zarkov

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[pinhole-discussion] sheet film

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Sorry to join this thread so late, but I would also recommend the Doran cut film daylight developing tank. I been using them for years, just do be wary of burrs on the guide rails which can cause scratches on the film.
I use replenishment system developers [Ilford HP5+ in accufine replenishment dev. and TMY in T-Max Replenishment developer] so there is no real loss of chemistry. This is especially valuable for those of us on septic systems.
My $.02 US.
Zarkov
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