[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Transfer
I want to try and learn how to use image transfer with my pinhold camera but can I try using this camera first. Will this type of film work? Thanks. http://preview.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SKid=484956
RE: [pinhole-discussion] re pinhole size
What about using a beer can? Is that to thick of a material? Thanks. Travis -Original Message- From: Paul Prober [mailto:pro...@silcom.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:05 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re pinhole size Hi, The pinhole size is not the problem. The thickness of the material is. At 70mm or less 0.001 inch thickness and thinner is required to allow for side angle view with minimum roll off. A pinhole with the minimal thickness the expected at 120 degree [+/-60] view angle 1 stop roll off at edge. Lenox Laser has laser pinholes for photography in 0.0005 stainless steel. When designing the PinPLUS Pinhole cameras this became an important requirement for the wide angle cameras design. Lenox Laser drilled pinhole of 250 microns [0.010 inches] in 0.0005 stainless steel meet the requirements for 100 degree diagonally view angle of the PinPLUS 64mm. Paul Prober ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] weddings
Here you go. http://www.zeroimage.com/camera1.html -Original Message- From: eco...@aol.com [mailto:eco...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] weddings Please help my ignorance, I keep seeing referances to 'Zone plate' and I haven't a clue to what it means. Will someone describe it for me, or a site with a picture of one. Thanks, Ellis ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Heading to England
Can you tell me more about your camera. Did you build it yourself or did you buy it. I am not comfortable with my handmade pinhold camera yet because I am shooting with 400 speed film and its hard to judge a fast shutter speed on a sunny day. Yuck. Goodluck with your pinhole adventure in England. I can not wait to see your photos. Thanks. Travis. -Original Message- From: Catherine Just [mailto:blue_medic...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:27 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Heading to England Hi, I'm new to the group, and I am new to pinhole photography. I am heading out of the country with my pinhole camera, a polaroid back, Type 55, and 4x5 film and film holders. I want to create a new body of work that is dreamlike, but really subtle, not really obscure. I've seen some Beautiful pinhole images that were printed as kallitypes. This may be how I capture the feel I am looking for. I am curious if you have any pointers for me as I go out of the country with this fabulous camera. thanks, Catherine = Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] ilford
If you are just starting I can help. I have been doing pinhole photography for about 3 months now and I have learned a lot. I have built 4 cameras so far. One out of a oatmeal can, a Pringles can ( talk about warped), a balsa wood camera, and now out of a black foam board. The first three camera, I had problems with light leaks and I had no idea about how long of an exposure should I make. I was also using paper negatives and this accounted for very long exposure times and I did not like this. Frustrated I decided to try and build one with the optimum settings.I found this web site that really helped. http://mrpinhole.no-ip.org/index.php http://mrpinhole.no-ip.org/index.php My fourth camera I built this out a black foam board and a 4x5 camera back that I bought for 5 bucks. As far as the pinhole I use a # 16 beading needle and a empty coke can. Find out everything you can about how to make pinholes. What I decided to do is make a camera with the optimum settings and then change the camera to reflect your style you want. As far as the dark room. This is what I use on a tight budget. Room I convert the bathroom into a dark room and use tape to fix the light leaks. Film Last Friday someone told me about this film. http://www.theeconozone.com/econozone/xxx4.html http://www.theeconozone.com/econozone/xxx4.htmlI have to tried it yet but later I will. Right now I'm shooting 4x5 TMAX 400. I do not like this film because I'm not getting the high contrast. Some people might love it but I'm not getting the results, plus its very expensive compared to ortho litho film and the chemical are cheap. Developing trays. I use those sandwich containers with the lids. I have one for the film developer and the other for fixer and one for water. I use the lids because it cuts down on the fumes because I do not have the best ventilation system. Contact prints. I bought a 35mm enlarge so I can make contact sheets of the 4x5 negatives. The nice thing about 4x5 is that you can make a contact print from this and decide it you like the results. As far as a dark room light I bought a small safe light for about 12.00 bucks. Hope this helps. Travis [ROBERTSON,TRAVIS J] -Original Message- From: kelca...@aol.com [mailto:kelca...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 7:11 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] ilford Okay now that I'm finally building a darkroom I can hopefully start understanding more about the whole pinhole process and see more eye to eye with it rather than just read the discussion e-mails and try to figure out what goes where in all that lingo I'm not aware of yet. I'm very excited for this I have so many ideas for pinhole and can't wait to start though I have a question (and probibly many questions to come) as to what kind or brand of developer, stop bath, and fixer I should use in order to get the best results with ilford paper? kelseyj
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show
Thanks for your help. Travis. -Original Message- From: James Kellar [mailto:pinh...@jameskellar.com] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:39 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show Travis, Thanks All of my images are shot on film. As of late I have been using color negative film. I have found out that it gives me the most exposure latitude. They also give me the most information when I convert the image to a monotone. I then scan the negative and do most of my work in Photoshop. BTW I don't use the convert to gray scale in Photoshop. All my images stay an RGB through out my process. I'll pass along my method latter when I have more time. I have been trying making different borders, and what I'm finding out is that I like the simple ones. When it comes to the images them self is I am trying for a distressed look, or as if I have found an old negative that might be torn, scratched, or maybe stored improperly. I have been trying this over the last couple of years and have just lately come across a style I like. The photographer that really inspired me is James Fee. If you see some of his work I'm sure you'll see some similarities. On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 07:51 AM, ROBERTSON,TRAVIS J wrote: Congratulations James, I would like to pick you brain for a few minutes. I'm new and trying to understand what method you used to make these prints so I can do a little research on the subject. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Dijk, Frans van [mailto:fra...@kunstgebouw.nl] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:37 AM To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show Congratulations James. I had seen http://www.jameskellar.com/print3.jpg. before via the list. I printed it carefully on matte paper since I appreciated it so much. My wife and I live 3 miles from the Norh-Sea and walk a lot in the dunes. Your image enabled me to to share the athmosfere one finds there. Could one call that impressionistic? Did you pick the subject or did it choose you? Frans van Dijk -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: James Kellar [SMTP:pinh...@jameskellar.com] Verzonden: donderdag 5 september 2002 2:07 Aan: Pinhole Disscussion Group Onderwerp: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show I just got word that I had 2 images accepted in a show at the Swope Art Museum in Terre Haute Indiana. I guess the only bad thing is that while I entered 3 images, 1 a pinhole and the other 2 were holga's. The pinhole did not get excepted. I know it's not to cool to announce this on the pinhole list, but I'm excited and this is a pretty important show for southern Indiana. If you want to see the two images go to http://www.jameskellar.com/print1.jpg and http://www.jameskellar.com/print2.jpg. The pinhole that didn't make it is, http://www.jameskellar.com/print3.jpg. Thanks for letting me brag. James James Kellar Co-manager of the Pinhole Discussion List pinh...@jameskellar.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show
Congratulations James, I would like to pick you brain for a few minutes. I'm new and trying to understand what method you used to make these prints so I can do a little research on the subject. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Dijk, Frans van [mailto:fra...@kunstgebouw.nl] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:37 AM To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Images in show Congratulations James. I had seen http://www.jameskellar.com/print3.jpg. before via the list. I printed it carefully on matte paper since I appreciated it so much. My wife and I live 3 miles from the Norh-Sea and walk a lot in the dunes. Your image enabled me to to share the athmosfere one finds there. Could one call that impressionistic? Did you pick the subject or did it choose you? Frans van Dijk -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: James Kellar [SMTP:pinh...@jameskellar.com] Verzonden:donderdag 5 september 2002 2:07 Aan: Pinhole Disscussion Group Onderwerp:[pinhole-discussion] Images in show I just got word that I had 2 images accepted in a show at the Swope Art Museum in Terre Haute Indiana. I guess the only bad thing is that while I entered 3 images, 1 a pinhole and the other 2 were holga's. The pinhole did not get excepted. I know it's not to cool to announce this on the pinhole list, but I'm excited and this is a pretty important show for southern Indiana. If you want to see the two images go to http://www.jameskellar.com/print1.jpg and http://www.jameskellar.com/print2.jpg. The pinhole that didn't make it is, http://www.jameskellar.com/print3.jpg. Thanks for letting me brag. James James Kellar Co-manager of the Pinhole Discussion List pinh...@jameskellar.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Strange Problem and I need some help.
Chances are that the light you are seeing is caused by a reflection from the surface of your film or paper. Did you paint the inside of the camera black? That will help, though it may not eliminate the problem. I did paint the inside of the camera black. I did not consider that light could reflect from the paper, (Duh :P )and I guess there is an advantage of having a flat surface for your film. I also might be getting a reflection from my pinhole because I did not want to pant it black, because they say it will mess up your hole, so this could be a problem. To tried to get around this problem by using electrical tape to cover as much of the metal I could. I bet that light could reflect off of the tape. I hope that this helps other people in some way. Thanks everyone. Travis. -Original Message- From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:03 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Strange Problem and I need some help. --- ROBERTSON,TRAVIS J is-...@womans.com wrote: My photos are having problems and I posted some example hoping that I can find out what is the problem. Please note that this is my first camera and I have been doing this for about a week. I'm just trying to work out the kinks in my camera design. This photo was a 2-min exposure on a very overcast sky about 20 min before sunset. I just wanted to see how a long exposure would turn out. Can you see the two vertical lines down the middle of the photo? What could cause that? http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=trfarm_lines.jpg The photo below was the same shot but was a 1 min and 30 second exposure and now I have a strange light source coming from the bottom. Could it be cause by a problem with my pinhole? I sure I don't have any light leaks. I'm using an oatmeal pinhole camera. http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?cmd=maxstar t=pic=trfarm_lightproblem.jpg Chances are that the light you are seeing is caused by a reflection from the surface of your film or paper. Did you paint the inside of the camera black? That will help, though it may not eliminate the problem. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Camera Size?
Thanks for your help Tom and I look forward to displaying some images. If they come out :) Travis. -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:twmil...@mr.net] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:28 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera Size? Hi Travis, Comments are embedded... - Original Message - From: ROBERTSON,TRAVIS J is-...@womans.com Thanks for your reply. I am learning about the science of pinhole cameras and I must tell you my head hurts at times trying to figure it out. Pinhole should be fun. Start simple and don't worry about optimal until you already have some of pinhole's magical results. As far as the result, look at this web site. http://marthacasanave.com/lenin.html I really like the dreamlike quality of these photos but I would like to have the images a little sharper. I'm pretty sure that Martha Casanave made these images in 35mm and with a larger than optimal pinhole. The dreaminess or fuzziness come both from the pinhole size and from enlarging the 35mm neg. Most likely if you're using a paper negative you'll get much sharper image. I'm from New Orleans and I want to make a photo gallery of the older parts of town. What I can not figure out is how they did this. See how even the light is. With my oatmeal pinhole camera, more light is located in the center to the photo and gradually gets darker on the sides. The darker edges on the oatmeal can images is from the curved film plane. The amount of light that hits the curved negative changes because parts of the curved film are closer to the pinhole than others. Light can easily fall off by one or two stops across a wide angle image. A couple of possibilities: to see what happens: try a (small) camera with a normal focal length and a flat film plane (ex: 5 or 6 inch focal length for a 4x5 inch negative - cube shaped cigar boxes are a cheap way to build a camera like this); or, accept the light fall off and make it part of your image. In old New Orleans, the streets are narrow and you'll probably need a wide-angle camera. The even light in Martha's images results from the quality of light in a far norther winter. A quote found on the internet: St Petersburg is located at 59 degrees 57' North (roughly on the same latitude as Oslo, Norway, the southern tip of Greenland and Seward, Alaska). Plus, Martha almost always photographs on overcast days. Today, I'm going to find something that will measure the pinhole size. I have been cutting up a coke can and poking the hole in it. I then sand the back down to try and make a clean hole. Does anybody have a cheap suggestions that might work better. Try using a disposable cookie sheet for pinhole material. The sheets are a dollar or two at the supermarket. They are thin and easy to work with. I've been making pinholes regularly from a cookie sheet I bought in 1996. There are still a couple of pinholes blanks left! Once I get a better understanding of this, I will build the larger camera. Have fun along the way and please share your images with us. New Orleans is fascinating. Tom ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Camera Size?
Thanks for your reply. I am learning about the science of pinhole cameras and I must tell you my head hurts at times trying to figure it out. As far as the result, look at this web site. http://marthacasanave.com/lenin.html . I really like the dreamlike quality of these photos but I would like to have the images a little sharper. I'm from New Orleans and I want to make a photo gallery of the older parts of town. What I can not figure out is how they did this. See how even the light is. With my oatmeal pinhole camera, more light is located in the center to the photo and gradually gets darker on the sides. Today, I'm going to find something that will measure the pinhole size. I have been cutting up a coke can and poking the hole in it. I then sand the back down to try and make a clean hole. Does anybody have a cheap suggestions that might work better. Once I get a better understanding of this, I will build the larger camera. Thanks, Travis. -Original Message- From: G.Penate [mailto:pen...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:56 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Camera Size? - Original Message - From: ROBERTSON,TRAVIS J is-...@womans.com I would like to make 16X20 prints (That is I want to put the paper in the camera) and I'm trying to figure out how large of a pinhole camera I would need. Any suggestions on how to figure this out? Travis, Asking how large a pinhole camera I'd need for 16x20 format is in essence not different than asking: I have an SLR what lens should I buy?. The answer is: it depends on the application and/or results you want to achieve. Having said that, if I was making a 16x20 camera, I'd make it wide angle, perhaps something equivalent to 75mm to 90mm in 4x5 format (in case you are familiar with this format), in other words, I'd make it so it has anywhere from 300mm to 360mm in focal length or distance pinhole to film/paper. You were not asking for pinhole sizes but: As for getting scientific about pinhole, as Chris was refering to, I don't like optimum pinholes either, but I do measure the pinholes I make, I'd hate to poke a hole in a metal foil and by chance get the perfect optimum hole for my camera. By knowing what the perfect optimum hole is and by measuring my pinholes, I can not only know the f/stop of my camera but equally important I can make sure I avoid using the perfect optimum pinhole!! Guillermo ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Camera Size?
I would like to make 16X20 prints (That is I want to put the paper in the camera) and I'm trying to figure out how large of a pinhole camera I would need. Any suggestions on how to figure this out? Thanks. Travis.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] I have a question.
Thank for your fast and informative reply. I want to make some prints, at least 12x13, but this weekend I'm going to try and create a small pinhole camera from a 2 pound coffee can. This way I can get an idea about how to make a simple pinhole camera and the exposure time. I also want to find a way or create a way, to take a photo and make a print on the spot. I have been dreaming up ways to create a portable darkroom. I will let you know how it works out. Thanks, Travis. -Original Message- From: b2myo...@aol.com [mailto:b2myo...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:55 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] I have a question. In a message dated 7/25/02 5:39:36 PM, is-...@womans.com writes: Can you create a very large pinhole camera and just use photo-paper instead of film? Yes, yes, yes! You will get a negative print which can then be contact printed onto another sheet of enlarging paper for a positive print...if you want it. Are their limitations to this? The limitations are the size of the printing capabilities in your darkroom...and when you make a contact print, it's usually done with a heavy piece of glass. How large do you want to go? leezy ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole panoramic camera
Hi, my name is Travis and I wanted to know if you know if their are limitations on how large of a pinhole camera can you make? I do not want to use film, just photopaper, so I can just develop the image. I want to make large prints and will you get distortions? Thanks. Travis. -Original Message- From: Gordy Emery [mailto:geme...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 4:25 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole panoramic camera JUST A TEST Gordy From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole panoramic camera Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:18:28 -0500 Hi Mark and All, My first thought on reading this post was Kurt Mottweiler's Pinoramic 120. It looks like he is redesigning his website... http://www.cnsp.com/mdesign/ ...there is not much info on his cameras there right now. Pinoramics have turned up on eBay once or twice. Related thought: Chris Faust is a wonderful photographer whose work is nearly all panoramic. He has also done pinhole work, including teaching a group which participated in WPPD this year. One of my favorites, which was taken with a Pinoramic, is in the middle of this mostly unrelated link: http://www.electricedge.com/greymatter/archives/0713.htm Chris also has an image in the Pinhole Journal, Vol 12 #3. It was made by placing a zone plate on an old Cirkut camera. The image in Pinhole Journal mentions that the image is 4.5 by 31. At a local pinhole gathering, Chris showed us a print of this image that was 18 feet long! Tom - Original Message - From: Mark Interrante m...@interwalk.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole panoramic camera Hi, I am quite interested in panoramic photos, any one have experience with this camera? I currently use the ZeroImage 6x9 and take two image side by side. Any other camera suggestions for pano? Mark http://www.interwalk.com/pinhole.htm ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] I have a question.
I have a passion for photography, but the cost of large format cameras and enlargers prevent me from doing the work I want to. Today I found your web site and I have that excited feeling about pinhole photography. You see I want to create very large photos, but I have a question. Can you create a very large pinhole camera and just use photo-paper instead of film? Are their limitations to this? I have a dark room and I can make the prints. Thanks. Travis.
