[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Success!
I turned my Polaroid Super Shooter Plus into a pinhole following Mike's info, and it worked! The first try was too dark. So I took off the pinhole and made it bigger. I have to have the lightness/darkness setting on the lightest, but I'm afraid if I make the pinhole any bigger, the images will be fuzzy. I used 667 film (3000 speed) with the camera set at 75 ASA and took the photos in full sun. These 2 came out pretty good. The coneflower picture is actually a little brighter than the scan came out. http://www.bonkersfiber.com/photos/pinhole/polaroid/selfportrait.jpg http://www.bonkersfiber.com/photos/pinhole/polaroid/echinacea.jpg -- Traci Bunkers Bonkers Handmade Originals http://www.bonkersfiber.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
Guillermo, Your note led to a couple of real revelations for me! Now that I have a much better grasp on things, I'll go back and re-read what I *thought* I understood before. I'm also now quite proud to consider myself an amateur. Thanks for the lesson(s)! Later, Trent G.Penate wrote: amateur is the french word for LOVER, of pinhole in this case. The answer is not color shift. Why the film's colors shift is because Reciprocity Failure ...
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
Did that just label me as amateur, or what?! big grin Sorry folks. I should have searched before posting. We've just always called it color shift. Later, Trent Trent Dowler wrote: That's a new one on me, and I have no idea what reciprocity failure is.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
Thanks, but I'm still missing it. grin That's a new one on me, and I have no idea what reciprocity failure is. Although, the name itself conjures up many ideas. Any points in the right direction where I can increase my knowledge about it? Later, Trent, who's off to search my books and the web. G.Penate wrote: Perhaps I've missed it, but why does the Polaroid film packs produce strong magenta tones? Could it be improper developing time? Reciprocity failure.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
- Original Message - From: Trent Dowler tdow...@grnco.net Perhaps I've missed it, but why does the Polaroid film packs produce strong magenta tones? Could it be improper developing time? Reciprocity failure.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
Ellis, You can probably find old Polaroid cameras locally at garage sales, flea markets, or thrift stores reasonably. I've found questionable (might work, might not) Polaroids for about $2-$5 that lend themselves to all sorts of tinkering. Perhaps I've missed it, but why does the Polaroid film packs produce strong magenta tones? Could it be improper developing time? Just thinking out loud. Later, Trent ellis CORY wrote: I use the Polaroid SX70/600 type camera and as I did not want to spoil it, I made a wooden pinhole camera to take the film pack. The results have a strong magenta cast. I tried an 80B filter and overexposure, this has improved it a lot and more experiments are needed.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
Aeryck Anechiarico wrote: I have a Polaroid Land Camera that I took off the lense housing and replaced it with a board to size fitted with a pinhole in the middle. It is one of the older Memory Maker versoins of the land camera. The first few pictures I took with it were fine using the newer Fuji FP-100c film, but when I was using it yesterday, every picture I attempted came out brown and the negative side was black. I am curious, as I have not really worked with polaroid type pinhole very much, nor polaroid in itself that much, either, whether or not the film is messed up or if I am just not exposing for the correct amount of time? This is daylight film at ISO 100 and color. Any suggestions would be apprectiated. Eric Hi Eric I tried also the Fuji FP-100c, but the images I got had heavy magenta cast, I used the Polaroid Pinhole Kit and in the bright sunlight the the exposure was something from 5-10 secs. As I thought the colors would be even more off using longer exposures, I never tried to take photos with it in cloudy weather, maybe my results would have been alike of yours. Now I'm using Fuji FP100-B B/W film, but the reciprocity failure is different than that of Polapan Pro and on a cloudy day, exposure times are significantly less than with Polapan Pro. best -matti
[pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole question
I have a Polaroid Land Camera that I took off the lense housing and replaced it with a board to size fitted with a pinhole in the middle. It is one of the older Memory Maker versoins of the land camera. The first few pictures I took with it were fine using the newer Fuji FP-100c film, but when I was using it yesterday, every picture I attempted came out brown and the negative side was black. I am curious, as I have not really worked with polaroid type pinhole very much, nor polaroid in itself that much, either, whether or not the film is messed up or if I am just not exposing for the correct amount of time? This is daylight film at ISO 100 and color. Any suggestions would be apprectiated. Eric
RE: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole kit
To all your questions: 1) The tripod mound REALLY sucks. I wrapped black electrical tape around the camera and around the mount. It's now solid enough that I can do horizontal or vertical images. It's ugly, but hey, it's a cardboard box to begin with. 2) Fuji's FP100 will work in it, I've shot it. It won't solve the film loading error problem, that's just a matter of getting used to the weirdness (or should I say unique features) of Polaroid film. Learning to pull the film out in a way that doesn't give you a white triangle of blank at the corner of the image is another skill that you will find yourself striving to master. It's fussy, no matter what kind of film you use. 3) I wish I understood why they package 669 with the camera when it's the worst film for reciprocity failure. The 689 film is fantastic and I strongly recommend using it - the increased color saturation helps a lot, and reciprocity failure doesnt really start to show up until you get into the 30 second exposure range - I've gotten good color up to 15 second exposures. Take your 669 images into photoshop and use the eyedropper tool in levels - you'll yield a very quaint 1950's Kodak color film look. Some of the newer Kodak color films have a lot less reciprocity failure, they say. I've used black and white, even the 3000 speed stuff indoors and in dark blizzard conditions. Any Polaroid film will work. In my opinion 669 is the worst possible choice, reciprocity failure sets in around 1/10 of a second. And finally, developing time is very sensitive to temperature. _ ___ Ed Nazarko -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion- admin@p at ???] On Behalf Of Matti Koskinen Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:45 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole kit hi all, today I received my Polaroid pinhole kit and sort of managed to put it together. The tripod mount sucks, first of all in the package was so little bit of sponge tape that it never held the camera, I bought some more, but still the tripod mount is unusable. Here's so windy that the camera moves so much, that the pictures I finally got, are all too bad. I'd like to know how others have got the tripod mount rigid? Another problem was loading the film. I have never loaded earlier 669 type film and so I ruined four first photos. Luckily with the kit came another film pack, yesterday I tried to locate Polaroid pack film here in my home town, but it seems no shop has it for sale, only for their own passport cameras. Does the kit's holder accept Fuji FP-100 film? Then after getting the film loaded correctly, the photos are very bluish. They look otherwise ok (exposure) but colors are badly off. Polaroid says long exposures may cause this, but mine were about 5 secs all and development 1 minute. All information urgently needed. TIA -matti
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid pinhole
Only the very old (1950s vintage, roll film) Polaroid cameras developed the film inside the camera. All the more recent models develop the film outside the camera. With the pack film cameras (the ones needed for Polaroid transfers, for instance), the processing of the film is entirely mechanical so you don't have to worry about cutting off the electronic shutter. On the integral film cameras (the ones that develop in fron of your eyes), there is usually a motorized system for ejecting the film and the electronics for operating the motor are a part of the exposure system. Mike Vande Bunt bendur...@aol.com wrote: Hello Thanks for the responses, If I make a pinhole camera out of an old polaroid will it still develop the pictures in camera? Ben ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid pinhole.
Polaroid makes a Polaroid pinhole camera - $99 at most of the discount camera places, try Calumet since they seem to be pinhole camera friendly - cardboard, with a nice brass pinhole, and a good quality Polaroid back which is NOT cardboard. Looks great, and looks like great fun to be had building it. You can check it on at www.polaroid.com. Have seen some pix from it online, and they've been quite nice. Can't speak for myself, though - I bought one for my wife to give me for Christmas, so while I'm looking at the box right now, that's all I'm allowed to do for another week or so. Also bought one for my sister, and one for my niece - we're going to have a family pinhole day during the holidays. Ed Nazarko -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???] On Behalf Of andy schmitt Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:25 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid pinhole. either take an old Polaroid camera, remove the lens put in a pinhole OR pickup a Polaroid back attach it to some form of light tight container w/ a pinhole on it... It really is quite fun. I just came in from using one...similar to the ones illustrated @ my old site http://members.tripod.com/andycam1/aandyAP_c.html Lots of fun..try it! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of bendur...@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:10 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole. Dear All I was wondering if could help me. I want to do polaroid transfers, and want to know if anyone knows a cheap an effective way to make a polaroid pinhole camera that can do this. Cheers Ben ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole.
- Original Message - From: bendur...@aol.com Dear All I was wondering if could help me. I want to do polaroid transfers, and want to know if anyone knows a cheap an effective way to make a polaroid pinhole camera that can do this. Ben, The easiest and cheapest would be to get yourself either a Polaroid holder or camera that takes the film you want to use and then you build a wooden box around the holder and or modify the camera to make it a pinhole camera. There are always holders and cameras being auctioned at eBay that can serve the purposes mentioned, these are some currently being auctioned: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1944584085 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1944512695 The main thing is to make sure the holder or camera actually takes the film you intend to use, as there are older Polaroid holder/cameras that may seem to take modern film but they will not, so do your homework before bidding. I bought an oscilloscope camera at eBay, from that purchase I have a shutter like this http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/G-Claron/Ilex75_4.jpg that I could use for pinhole , a close up lens I use as paper weight and a holder exactly like this one: http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/021502/pinhole0.jpg http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/021502/pinhole2.jpg that I also converted to pinhole camera. Disclaimer: those auctions above are just to give you an idea, I do not know the persons auctioning that stuff nor I have any interest in them selling it. Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole kit manuals online
I just spotted this -- Polaroid has posted the manuals for their pinhole camara kit online: http://www.polaroid.com/service/userguides/photographic/pinhole_ug.pdf http://www.polaroid.com/service/userguides/photographic/pinhole_hndbk.pdf -- p __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Kits
I am in Japan where they released Polaroid pinhole camera kits mid last year, and am thinking about buying one. Is it worth buying one, or is it cheaper and just as good to make one from an old back? I am a complete Polaroid beginner (only used a day lab a few times), can anyone recommend the best sites to check out to learn about building a polaroid-pinhole? What old camera models would I be looking for to get the back? Cheers, Louisa See the following site for Polaroid pack film camera models -- and lots of other information on Polaroid cameras and film: http://www.rwhirled.com/landlist/landdcam-pack.htm The rigid body Colorpack and Super Shooter models (but not Square Shooter) are easily found on eBay and in thrift stores, are inexpensive, and are easily converted to pinhole use. You just need to be sure to get the 100-series film cameras, not the 80-series ones. These are definitely cheaper than a $100 new Poloroid pinhole camera. The cameras are also cheaper than separate film backs. Without very little work, you can convert one to a normal focal length pinhole camera. The June/July 1998 issue of Camera Arts has an article on cutting one down to make a wide-angle body. And the Polaroid Big Shot camera can be nade into a telephoto camera.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Kits
I tried one pack of the sepia and wasted a lot of it because I underestimated the reciprocitycorrection very badly. It would be a contributiuon for soemone to come up with good reciprocity recommendations for polaroid sepia. - Original Message - From: Louisa M. Kirby To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Cc: lmki...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Kits I am in Japan where they released Polaroid pinhole camera kits mid last year, and am thinking about buying one. http://www.polaroid.co.jp/product/business/pinhole/pinhole.html http://www.polaroid.co.jp/support/pinhole_sample.html The sepia kit is about ��8000 and colour is ��9000. Each include a double pack of film (sepia 606 and colour 669). They were planned to be released in the US last October for $100, but I have never seen them there. Anyway this is a bit much for a cardboard box. My questions are: Is there any reason that I could not use sepia/bw film in the colour camera and visa-versa? Is it worth buying one, or is it cheaper and just as good to make one from an old back? I am a complete Polaroid beginner (only used a day lab a few times), can anyone recommend the best sites to check out to learn about building a polaroid-pinhole? What old camera models would I be looking for to get the back? Cheers, Louisa P.S. Should it be pinaroid, polarhole, or pinholaroid? -- MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Kits
I am in Japan where they released Polaroid pinhole camera kitsmid lastyear, and am thinking about buying one. http://www.polaroid.co.jp/product/business/pinhole/pinhole.htmlhttp://www.polaroid.co.jp/support/pinhole_sample.html The sepia kitis about 8000 and colour is 9000. Each include a double pack of film (sepia 606 and colour 669). They were planned to be released in the US last October for $100, but I have never seen them there. Anyway this is a bit much for a cardboard box. My questions are: Is there any reason that I could not use sepia/bw film in the colour camera and visa-versa?Is it worth buying one, or is it cheaper and just as good to make one from an old back? I am a complete Polaroid beginner (only used a day lab a few times), can anyone recommend the best sites to check out to learn about building a polaroid-pinhole? What old camera models would I be looking for to get the back? Cheers, Louisa P.S. Should it be "pinaroid," "polarhole," or"pinholaroid"?MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole kits
Just a guess, but since Polaroid Corp. is currently involved in a reorganization to avoid bankruptcy they may have put on hold products targeted at a specialty market... Mike Vande Bunt Gregg Kemp wrote: At 11:49 AM 1/12/02 -0800, you wrote: (forwarded from the polaroid_enthusiasts list, snipped for size) in Japan they released Polaroid pinhole camera kitsmid lastyear. http://www.polaroid.co.jp/product/business/pinhole/pinhole.html http://www.polaroid.co.jp/support/pinhole_sample.html The sepia kitis about ??8000 and colour is ??9000. Each include a double pack of film. They were planned to be released in the US last October for $100, but I have never seen them there. -- J.E. Patterson www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com Ed Levinson has tried these out. He added a story about this in the Pinhole Diary last September: http://www.???/diary/index.php?id=188 But, I've heard nothing from Polaroid since announcing a late October release of these. Gregg _
Re: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole kits
At 11:49 AM 1/12/02 -0800, you wrote: (forwarded from the polaroid_enthusiasts list, snipped for size) in Japan they released Polaroid pinhole camera kitsmid lastyear. http://www.polaroid.co.jp/product/business/pinhole/pinhole.html http://www.polaroid.co.jp/support/pinhole_sample.html The sepia kitis about 8000 and colour is 9000. Each include a double pack of film. They were planned to be released in the US last October for $100, but I have never seen them there. -- J.E. Patterson www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com Ed Levinson has tried these out. He added a story about this in the Pinhole Diary last September: http://www.???/diary/index.php?id=188 But, I've heard nothing from Polaroid since announcing a late October release of these. Gregg _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.??? Worldwide Pinhole Photograhy Day at http://www.pinholeday.org
[pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole kits
(forwarded from the polaroid_enthusiasts list, snipped for size) in Japan they released Polaroid pinhole camera kitsmid lastyear. http://www.polaroid.co.jp/product/business/pinhole/pinhole.html http://www.polaroid.co.jp/support/pinhole_sample.html The sepia kitis about 8000 and colour is 9000. Each include a double pack of film. They were planned to be released in the US last October for $100, but I have never seen them there. -- J.E. Patterson www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Camera
Mike: I'd like to see how to convert a pack film camera to a pinhole camera. Please write it up. Thanks. -mark - Original Message - From: Mike Vande Bunt mike.vandeb...@mixcom.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:14 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Camera I finally had a chance to look at Edward Levinson's report on the Polaroid Pinhole Camera that is available in Japan. (The report is on http://www.???/ for those that have yet to see it.) This clears up some confusion (in my mind at least...) regarding the film used. Here in the US the Polaroid integral film formerly called One-Step has been relabeled Polaroid 600. Since Polaroid has not produced any new cameras since the 80's that do not use integral film, I expected that this was the film used. It turns out to be 600 Series PACK FILM, which is another matter entirely. (Pack film is the 3.25 x 4.25 inch format peel apart film most of us are familliar with fron the 1960's and 70's. I just never call it 600 film, rather I call it pack film or 669, or 667, or 665. A better name would be 660 series since all the stock numbers begin with 66.) $99.95 is a lot to pay for a camera of this type. As a collectors item it is interesting, but one can make their own version of this camera for next to no cost. Cameras that use pack film are widely available at yard sales and resale shops for very little cost, often less than $10.00 in good condition. I used a camera of this type for my Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day photo. I have used the Type 665 Pos/Neg material and can confirm that it does indeed produce a useable negative. My experience has been that one must overexpose the print to get a good negative, but if you have a good negative you don't really need that original print. If there is interest on the list, I can write up some brief instructions on how to (and how easy it is to) convert a Polaroid pack film camera to pinhole / zoneplate. (Type 667 is the ISO 3000 speed BW material that I use for hand held zone plate shots, auto-exposure meetered by the camera's original shutter.) Mike Vande Bunt ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Camera
I finally had a chance to look at Edward Levinson's report on the Polaroid Pinhole Camera that is available in Japan. (The report is on http://www.???/ for those that have yet to see it.) This clears up some confusion (in my mind at least...) regarding the film used. Here in the US the Polaroid integral film formerly called One-Step has been relabeled Polaroid 600. Since Polaroid has not produced any new cameras since the 80's that do not use integral film, I expected that this was the film used. It turns out to be 600 Series PACK FILM, which is another matter entirely. (Pack film is the 3.25 x 4.25 inch format peel apart film most of us are familliar with fron the 1960's and 70's. I just never call it 600 film, rather I call it pack film or 669, or 667, or 665. A better name would be 660 series since all the stock numbers begin with 66.) $99.95 is a lot to pay for a camera of this type. As a collectors item it is interesting, but one can make their own version of this camera for next to no cost. Cameras that use pack film are widely available at yard sales and resale shops for very little cost, often less than $10.00 in good condition. I used a camera of this type for my Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day photo. I have used the Type 665 Pos/Neg material and can confirm that it does indeed produce a useable negative. My experience has been that one must overexpose the print to get a good negative, but if you have a good negative you don't really need that original print. If there is interest on the list, I can write up some brief instructions on how to (and how easy it is to) convert a Polaroid pack film camera to pinhole / zoneplate. (Type 667 is the ISO 3000 speed BW material that I use for hand held zone plate shots, auto-exposure meetered by the camera's original shutter.) Mike Vande Bunt
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid pinhole
I broke/cut the back off of a polaroid portrait land camera that i got for nothing,added a wooden front box and added a 58mm lens ring,i can screw on any filter that i want and i use the lense cap for the shutter :)i made the pinhole in brass shim stock,btw the aperture is f125. Harry A HREF=http://www.figurefoto.com/;Figurefoto.com/A
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid pinhole
ok...how did you do yours? andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of figuref...@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 7:05 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole I just built a pinhole polaroid camera.If any one wants to know any details just ask.Btw,its a really simple idea :) Harry Figurefoto.com
[pinhole-discussion] polaroid pinhole
I just built a pinhole polaroid camera.If any one wants to know any details just ask.Btw,its a really simple idea :) Harry A HREF=http://www.figurefoto.com/;Figurefoto.com/A
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid pinhole
Dear Sam and Larry, Thanks for your comments. I've currently been using a Square Shooter 2 with type 88 film, the peel apart kind. I've only used it successfully out of doors but have found I can manipulate the image in various ways e.g. pressing on the unpeeled film preventing areas of the image from exposing. I pressed on an image of the sky over Coventry creating a 'tear' in the heavens. Would like advice on adapting an SX70 for pinhole and using Polaroid in standard oatmeal box type cameras. What Polaroid film would you suggest? Mark
