Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-24 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 10/23/02 8:40:41 PM, neuhausph...@aol.com writes:

 Not really...the intense blue achieved with the H2O2 bath just quick 
forces 
the dark blue that will naturally occur with normal drying...kind of like a 
preview.  

Exactly
leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-24 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
When a cyanotype is made it looks gorgeous when wet.  As it dries it looks
lighter.  After the cyanotyoe is dry the pigment (prussian blue) oxidizes
and gradually turns darker.

hydrogen peroxide oxidized the pigment immediately.

Its not the drying process that makes it go darker - its the gradual
oxidation of the pigment.

H2O2 will get the print as dark as it will ever be.

Gord

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 neuhausph...@aol.com wrote:

 Not really...the intense blue achieved with the H2O2 bath just quick forces
 the dark blue that will naturally occur with normal drying...kind of like a
 preview.

 Mike


 In a message dated 10/21/02 12:30:49 PM, glsm...@yahoo.com writes:

  My understanding is that the blue will reduce in intensity after drying.
 Is
 this not true?

 Cheers -

 george 


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-21 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Cyanotype is very fussy about the paper used.  Buffered papers are really
bad for it.

What kind of paper are you using?

I use a Stonehenge paper, works very well.

could be underexposed.  What are you using to expose it?  UV lights,
Sunlight?

Gord

On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 bendur...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi
 Could anyone tell me the image gets washed away, when you rince your
 cyantype.
 And also what you can do about it.
 Cheers
 Ben


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-21 Thread B2MYOUNG
The chemistry must be mixed EXACTLY according to directions.
Part A and part B must be combined in equal amounts JUST before applying.
***The paper must be bone dry after applying chemistry and before putting on 
the neg. and exposing.

The exposure should be long enough for the image (by inspection) begins to 
turn grey...and then some.

Wash in cold water until the water is clear.

You may make a solution of a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in a tray of 
water. The image will turn an intense blue.

Good Luck.
leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-20 Thread D. Hill
Ben,

Try a longer exposure, for if the image washes away it
was not exposed long enough.  Also, as the image
dries, it intensifies.  A quick check of this is to
put a washed test print in a drymount press or print
dryer.

Don
 
--- Ingo Guenther ingoguent...@web.de wrote:
 Hi Ben,
 at first try to use water in a tray, not rinse
 water. Change the water 8
 times. Dunk the cyano careful face down with very
 low agitation in the tray
 for 5 minutes. If this not will work, change (at
 second) to a other paper.
 Regards, Ingo
 
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 Could anyone tell me the image gets washed away,
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 cyantype.
 And also what you can do about it.
 Cheers
 Ben
 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-20 Thread Tom Ferguson
Two of the more common cyanotype problems are alkaline water and/or a 
bad paper choice. Try adding a few CC of stop bath to your first rinse. 
If that fixes your problem, then you know your water source is alkaline. 
Cyanotype need nuetral or acidic wash water.


If that isn't your problem, then you need to try a different paper. 
Reves BFK is a widely available paper that will work with cyanotype. It 
isn't my favorite paper, but you can get a sheet almost anywhere. papers 
for cyanotype need to be nuetral or acidic (just like the wash). many 
papers are made with large amounts of buffer. This is usually strongly 
alkaline, and thus an unhappy match for cyanotype. Some papers are 
simply too hard (non absorbant) for a good cyanotype photograph.


My favorote paper for cyanotype is Cranes Platinotype available from 
Bostick and Sullivan  http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/


The above assume that by washed away you mean faded during washing. If 
you mean that your image is totally disappearing, then I would be 
woriied that your chemicals are incorrect or bad.


On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 08:29  AM, bendur...@aol.com wrote:


Hi
Could anyone tell me the image gets washed away, when you rince your 
cyantype.

And also what you can do about it.
Cheers
Ben



Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-20 Thread Ingo Guenther
Hi Ben,
at first try to use water in a tray, not rinse water. Change the water 8
times. Dunk the cyano careful face down with very low agitation in the tray
for 5 minutes. If this not will work, change (at second) to a other paper.
Regards, Ingo

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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes


Hi
Could anyone tell me the image gets washed away, when you rince your
cyantype.
And also what you can do about it.
Cheers
Ben




Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-20 Thread Ingo Guenther
Hi Ben,

at first try to use still water in a tray, not rinse water. Change the water
for 8 times. Dunk the cyano careful facedown in the tray, without great
agitation. If this not work change
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From: bendur...@aol.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes


Hi
Could anyone tell me the image gets washed away, when you rince your
cyantype.
And also what you can do about it.
Cheers
Ben




Re: [pinhole-discussion] problems with cyanotypes

2002-10-17 Thread BenDuross
Hi
Could anyone tell me the image gets washed away, when you rince your 
cyantype.
And also what you can do about it.
Cheers
Ben