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Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] documentation about distributing minified versions of files
On 05/06/2013 02:21 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote: Daniel you ask me to explain some things i thought was common practice. Below i try to give explanations ; please help me fix, refine, or reject them. thanks, i think it's useful to establish documentation of common practice, along with the rationales for it, so we can evaluate whether the practice actually supports the rationales. An essential difference between C and Javascript is that C is compiled, and Javascript is interpreted. Before minifying was so easy, nobody minified Javascript files, and it is perfectly fine to use unminified Javascript files in production. sure, i understand the nature of the toolchains; but clearly it's not 100% perfectly fine to use unminified js in production, or we wouldn't have tools that generate minified js :) That is, minifying js provides certain performance gains that users can't expect from non-minified js. The obvious advantage of keeping unminified files by default is keeping this advantage of being able to debug a Javascript program right away, since all modern web browsers ship full-featured debuggers. i like the idea of being able to debug a webapp using the browser's debugger; however, i'm not sure how we expect a webapp maintainer to switch between the minified and non-minified versions of the javascript. * should name the minified files like foo.min.js it sounds to me like this proposal asks the webapp maintainer/developer to change all their code to explicitly source $foo.min.js when it is in production, and then change it back to sourcing $foo.js when they are debugging. Is this a realistic workflow to expect of web developers? It seems more plausible to me that webdevs will write the code to use $foo.js (for easier debugging) and never use the minified versions. Given that it will be system administrators and not webdevs who want it to use the minified versions, maybe another approach would be to have two different packages that conflict with each other. for example: libjs-jquery libjs-jquery-minified (Provides: libjs-jquery) then the source code for webapps could remain static, and the sysadmin could switch between minified and verbose forms via apt/dpkg. I'm happy to hear suggestions for other approaches, i'm just trying to think more widely if we're in the process of establishing best-practices. For the keep it easily debuggable reason. It brings absolutely no real advantage to have minified versions for nodejs modules. Just to be clear, is this because node loads the interpreted code once, does so at minimal expense, and then operates from it in memory as it handles each subsequent request? (sorry, i don't know the node process architecture very well) Or is it because node is loading the files from disk instead of over the network and we just assume that there is minimal cost for loading from disk as compared to loading over the network? --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Processing of node-resolve_0.3.1-1_amd64.changes
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[Pkg-javascript-devel] node-yajsml_1.1.5-1_amd64.changes is NEW
Mapping sid to unstable. binary:node-yajsml is NEW. source:node-yajsml is NEW. Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of the override file. It is ok otherwise, so please be patient. New packages are usually added to the override file about once a week. ___ Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#707171: ITP: node-base64id -- Node.js module that generates a base64 id
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de * Package name: node-base64id Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Kristian Faeldt faeldt_krist...@cyberagent.co.jp * URL : https://github.com/faeldt/base64id * License : MIT Programming Lang: Javascript Description : Node.js module that generates a base64 id Node.js module that generates a base64 id. It uses crypto.randomBytes when available, but falls back to unsafe methods for node.js = 0.4. . To increase performance, random bytes are buffered to minimize the number of synchronous calls to crypto.randomBytes. ___ Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Processing of node-base64id_0.1.0~git20130507-1_amd64.changes
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[Pkg-javascript-devel] Processing of node-policyfile_0.0.5-1_amd64.changes
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[Pkg-javascript-devel] node-policyfile_0.0.5-1_amd64.changes is NEW
Mapping sid to unstable. binary:node-policyfile is NEW. source:node-policyfile is NEW. Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of the override file. It is ok otherwise, so please be patient. New packages are usually added to the override file about once a week. ___ Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Processing of node-xmlhttprequest_1.5.0-1_amd64.changes
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