drumkv1_0.3.3-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers 
pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org
Description: 
 drumkv1- old-school drum-kit sampler
Changes: 
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 .
   [ Jaromír Mikeš ]
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   * New upstream release.
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samplv1_0.3.3-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers 
pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org
Description: 
 samplv1- polyphonic sampler synthesizer
Changes: 
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 .
   [ Alessio Treglia ]
   * New upstream release.
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Re: [SCM] libav/experimental: sync to libnut, nom-num

2013-07-01 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM,  siret...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
 The following commit has been merged in the experimental branch:
 commit d7d3efae82783a1533639c8c258dc61c4785e402
 Author: Oded Shimon od...@ods15.dyndns.org
 Date:   Sat Dec 23 12:33:37 2006 +

This workflow makes the commits list unusable. Can we do anything to
make it usable again?

PS: does the new workflow provide benefits already? I imagine
backporting fixes is made a lot easier now.

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Saludos,
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spam bomb on pkg-multimedia-commits

2013-07-01 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Hi,

I sincerely apologize for the spam bomb I have caused yesterday on
pkg-multimedia-commits. I have used git-import-orig --upstream-vcs-tag
parameter to import all upstream libav commits, and our commit hook
happily send an email for all 32K commits upstream.

This is clearly not acceptable, I really should have disabled the
commit hook first.

Since this process has turned out to be error prone, I think that
maybe the commit hook can be made smarter to send out out a summary of
changes instead of individual commit mails on merges? I figure it
would be tricky to specify what the corner cases and in what case we
want the commit diffs instead.

Does anyone claim maintainership of the commit hooks, or shall I give it a shot?

-- 
regards,
Reinhard

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synthv1_0.3.3-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers 
pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org
Description: 
 synthv1- old-school polyphonic synthesizer
Changes: 
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 .
   [ Alessio Treglia ]
   * New upstream release.
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Re: Bug report on pd-iemambi: iem_ambi.pd_linux crashes with exit status 139

2013-07-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2013-06-26 19:44, Alexandre Rebert wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We found a crash in iem_ambi.pd_linux contained in the pd-iemambi
 package. You are being contacted because your are listed as one of
 the maintainer of pd-iemambi.

as with the pd-readanysf package, i have prepared a package that
fixes the reported problem.
i also nagged upstream enough so they did a new release.

it's all packaged in
 git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-multimedia/pd-iem_ambi

- - this package uses CDBS
- - it builds cleanly in a pbuilder/sid environment

again, i would be grateful if somebody with upload permissions could
review the package and upload it to unstable.


cheers,
fgasdmr
IOhannes
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Re: Bug#686777: netjack2 + opus custom modes + debian

2013-07-01 Thread Robin Gareus
On 06/30/2013 03:11 AM, Ron wrote:

 My understanding of the background prior to that is that Robin had some
 discussion with some of the developers at FOMS, who at the time suggested
 the custom modes probably would be appropriate for the use described to
 them.

correct. derf aka Tim Terriberry in this case.

[..]

 The custom modes are not interoperable with anything else, nor are they
 a part of the codec standard, but they do exist in the code for people
 with very specialised needs in 'closed' applications, where the need for
 oddball frame sizes strongly outweighs any other considerations of
 interoperability, or codec performance (the latter being both in the
 sense of processing resources *and* more importantly audio quality).

jack in particular was one of the use-cases for opus-devs to justify
custom modes.

 My understanding at present is that the primary (only?) reason that
 netjack is using custom modes is so that it can use 64 sample frames
 which shaves ~1ms of latency off the usual 2.5ms (120 sample) minimum
 frame size for normal opus modes.  We didn't quite get to the bottom
 of all of that before Robin had to leave, so at present my only
 understanding of the reason for that is that pro audio equipment
 can operate with lower latencies than normal sound cards which makes
 this desirable.

not quite.

netjack is using opus custom modes so that jack can use the same
period-size across the complete jack system.

Adding buffering on either side (sender + receiver) to align jack + opus
buffers will always result in additional latency.

For large jack buffersizes or long-distance communication that
additional latency may be negligible, but it still is more latency.

Furthermore, aligning non-audio jack-data (transport + MIDI) with sample
accuracy to those opus-audio-buffers is far from trivial.

It's not impossible, but it is quite complex because jack is not
designed to cater for that case.


 What I still don't understand though is why if you are using Pro audio
 equipment the degradation in audio quality that this would bring (which
 is significant) would be acceptable for that use? 

a) because some users demand it :)
b) because celt is no longer available on most distros

low, fixed latency is most important.

There are countless solutions for high-quality streaming - where latency
and jitter is irrelevant, but basically only netjack that provides
synchroneous low latency.

[..]

 Which basically makes the question become: If you are using Pro audio
 equipment and ~1ms of latency does make a difference to you, then
 wouldn't a lossless transport mode be more appropriate for that anyway?

on a LAN, yes lossless. Over Wifi it may make sense to compress lossy to
accommodate more channels. On WAN there are e.g. remote jam-sessions,
phone relays, live monitoring,.. - none of which requires high quality,
but all require fixed low latency.

[..]

 The upstream developers have reaffirmed that they definitely do not
 want to enable the custom modes by default in what they release, so
 even if we do override that here for the .debs, there'll still be a
 question of our compatibility with other distros and users.

yes, the solution for that would be to add opus as git-submodule to jack
and statically link netjack against it. That'd also accommodate windows,
OSX and *BSD builds of jackd.

[..]

  - Can jack really make a case for needing this in a way that actually
delivers real benefits to jack users.  (Robin has said that this is
also 'complicated', but I still don't fully understand why yet).

see above. Sample-sync alignment with other data-types is not easy.
Asynchronous (buffered) communication is orthogonal to everything else
in jack. It will likely be rejected upstream. jack does not aim to do
everything. JACK tries to address 95% and do that right and not care
about the last 5% edge-cases.

On top of of that, there are currently no volunteers to implement
vanilla opus on netjack2 (and also no volunteer to implement that in
netjack1). I was scratching my own itch with netjack2+opus. works for me.

The only case for non-custom modes would be:
 1) interoperability with other opus apps
 2) higher quality encoding

(1) is never going to work out. netjack consists of N audio-channels, M
midi-channels. Both include per-port latencies (min,max). And netjack
also comprises transport information (timecode, tempo, bar-beat-tick,
audio-frames per video-frame, etc). It is not a data stream that will be
consumed by non-jack.

(2) if a user chooses lossy encoding s/he does not really care about
quality anyway. jack's main features is no-copy zero-latency with local
clients, being able to include remote clients on the network that align
sample-sync and respond reliably is the main use-case.


ciao,
robin

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документ эксперта МБА

2013-07-01 Thread jhvpdlgk
для тех, кто желает бытовать успешным http://bit.ly/127Hg07


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Re: spam bomb on pkg-multimedia-commits

2013-07-01 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since this process has turned out to be error prone, I think that
 maybe the commit hook can be made smarter to send out out a summary of
 changes instead of individual commit mails on merges?

I definitely second this :)

 Does anyone claim maintainership of the commit hooks, or shall I give it a 
 shot?

Please go ahead!

-- 
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Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org
Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com
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Re: [SCM] libav/experimental: sync to libnut, nom-num

2013-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Felipe Sateler (2013-07-01 00:39:07)
 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM,  siret...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
  The following commit has been merged in the experimental branch:
  commit d7d3efae82783a1533639c8c258dc61c4785e402
  Author: Oded Shimon od...@ods15.dyndns.org
  Date:   Sat Dec 23 12:33:37 2006 +
 
 This workflow makes the commits list unusable. Can we do anything to 
 make it usable again?

The Perl team faced similar frustration (around the time I started to do 
same - not sure if only I was to blame there) for their irc bot.  That 
has now been improved to abbreviate 9+ commits (or something like that, 
I don't know the details).  Perhaps their code can be reused for 
whatever has been put into place for spewing out to -commit mailinglist.


 PS: does the new workflow provide benefits already? I imagine 
 backporting fixes is made a lot easier now.

Yes, that's one detail of a larger benefit as I see it: Being able to 
easily follow what changes within each upstream change, and why.

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Re: spam bomb on pkg-multimedia-commits

2013-07-01 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since this process has turned out to be error prone, I think that
 maybe the commit hook can be made smarter to send out out a summary of
 changes instead of individual commit mails on merges? I figure it
 would be tricky to specify what the corner cases and in what case we
 want the commit diffs instead.

I was thinking that maybe we should only report on commits touching
the debian/ folder.

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Re: nekobee and ladspa-sdk DM flag

2013-07-01 Thread Felipe Sateler
Hi Jaromir, sorry for the delay
What is your key ID?

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would like to upload nekobee and ladspa-sdk.
 Can someone set DM flag for me?

 best regards

 mira

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Re: spam bomb on pkg-multimedia-commits

2013-07-01 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote:
 I was thinking that maybe we should only report on commits touching
 the debian/ folder.

Yeah, it looks redundant to me to forward upstream commits to our -commit list.

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Re: Bug#686777: netjack2 + opus custom modes + debian

2013-07-01 Thread Ron
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:15:10AM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote:
 On 06/30/2013 03:11 AM, Ron wrote:
 
  My understanding of the background prior to that is that Robin had some
  discussion with some of the developers at FOMS, who at the time suggested
  the custom modes probably would be appropriate for the use described to
  them.
 
 correct. derf aka Tim Terriberry in this case.

Right, and it was Tim who ran through the math in the IRC discussion to
point out that this might not have been the best suggestion after all.

  The custom modes are not interoperable with anything else, nor are they
  a part of the codec standard, but they do exist in the code for people
  with very specialised needs in 'closed' applications, where the need for
  oddball frame sizes strongly outweighs any other considerations of
  interoperability, or codec performance (the latter being both in the
  sense of processing resources *and* more importantly audio quality).
 
 jack in particular was one of the use-cases for opus-devs to justify
 custom modes.

Greg was probably the one who most often raised oddball cases that might
use this, but even he was now scratching his head somewhat at what you
are actually trying to achieve with using it for netjack as you are.

Which is why I wanted to try to get to the bottom of your rationale here.

  My understanding at present is that the primary (only?) reason that
  netjack is using custom modes is so that it can use 64 sample frames
  which shaves ~1ms of latency off the usual 2.5ms (120 sample) minimum
  frame size for normal opus modes.  We didn't quite get to the bottom
  of all of that before Robin had to leave, so at present my only
  understanding of the reason for that is that pro audio equipment
  can operate with lower latencies than normal sound cards which makes
  this desirable.
 
 not quite.
 
 netjack is using opus custom modes so that jack can use the same
 period-size across the complete jack system.

What gets to pick the period here?  Even custom modes still limit you to
some discrete number of choices, it isn't continuously variable, so there
will surely still be cases where some part of the system needs to adapt
to suit other parts if this is to be true, won't there?

 Adding buffering on either side (sender + receiver) to align jack + opus
 buffers will always result in additional latency.
 
 For large jack buffersizes or long-distance communication that
 additional latency may be negligible, but it still is more latency.

You realise that we are talking about a latency that is equivalent to
moving your head approximately 15 inches from your speakers, right?

Or in the case of a 'jam session', two players standing about a foot
from each other ...  with their instruments held a foot from each
others chins.  If they are any further apart than that, in the same
room, then the latency difference that you are worrying over here
becomes insignificant by comparison.

If they stand a guitar length apart and put headphones on, even the
normal mode of opus will get the sound to their ears faster than the
air between them would.

It doesn't take large buffer sizes or long distances to make this
negligible.  We're not talking coarse yak hairs here, it's the finest
angora.

 Furthermore, aligning non-audio jack-data (transport + MIDI) with sample
 accuracy to those opus-audio-buffers is far from trivial.

Elastic stores really are trivial.  So I'm still not really sure what
showstopper complexity you are worried about there.


  What I still don't understand though is why if you are using Pro audio
  equipment the degradation in audio quality that this would bring (which
  is significant) would be acceptable for that use? 
 
 a) because some users demand it :)

What exactly are users demanding here?  They surely aren't demanding that
members of the band stand on each others toes and play their guitars with
their teeth.  If they want to use oxygen free copper that's fine, but what
_real_ gain are they demanding to get here?  That's the important question
we need to answer.

 b) because celt is no longer available on most distros

It arguably should have never been available on them in the first place :)
But that was a learning experience for us too!

 low, fixed latency is most important.
 
 There are countless solutions for high-quality streaming - where latency
 and jitter is irrelevant, but basically only netjack that provides
 synchroneous low latency.

You can still have low latency with standard opus modes.  If you take one
small step toward your speaker it can even be lower than the custom mode
you are currently using :)

  Which basically makes the question become: If you are using Pro audio
  equipment and ~1ms of latency does make a difference to you, then
  wouldn't a lossless transport mode be more appropriate for that anyway?
 
 on a LAN, yes lossless. Over Wifi it may make sense to compress lossy to
 accommodate more channels.

On WIFI it's pointless to talk about 

Re: Bug#686777: netjack2 + opus custom modes + debian

2013-07-01 Thread Ron
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 04:40:19PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
 On 06/30/2013 03:11 AM, Ron wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I'll limit my response to the aspect of symbols, since Robin has already
 answered the other questions.
 
 
  Just sketching now:
 
  libopus0 will provide /usr/lib/libopus.so.0 (business as usual)
  libopus-custom-0 will provide /usr/lib/libopus-custom.so.0
  
  The big problem with this is that both of those will provide all of
  the functions that libopus.so.0 does, only some of the symbols with
  the same names will have different implementations in the -custom one.
  
  Which means that when jack links to -custom, and jill links to -vanilla,
  and then some high level audio app or desktop environment or whatever
  links to both jack and jill ...   hilarity is likely to ensue.
 
 I've seen colliding symbols with ardour via indirect linking, and it's
 really a PITA to diagnose.
 
 But here it seems to be very unlikely: only the jack server links
 against libopus(-custom), and this server is a standalone binary that's
 not linking or linked to anything else.
 
 All the clients link against libjack, and even if they do link against
 libopus, they're not interfering with the server's libopus-custom, since
 client-server communication is done via /dev/shm.
 
 So I think we can ignore the symbol aspect for all practical cases.
 (Correct me if I'm wrong).

Where does libjacknet.so.0.1.0 fit into all of that?

I don't think we can guarantee that for the forever future something
using the custom modified symbols would be compatible with the normal
builds.  Optimisation work is really only just beginning, and there
are quite a few places where the normal code might diverge in newly
incompatible ways from what is possible when custom is enabled, and
where a symbol collision could be even worse than it is at present.

This could turn into a snowball of ugly pretty easily I fear ...

Which is why I'm really keen to be sure we're not going down this
path for something so tiny that nobody will ever be able to hear it.

  Cheers,
  Ron



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[bts-link] source package vlc

2013-07-01 Thread bts-link-upstream
#
# bts-link upstream status pull for source package vlc
# see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg1.html
#

user bts-link-upstr...@lists.alioth.debian.org

# remote status report for #699832 (http://bugs.debian.org/699832)
# Bug title: vlc-nox: document VLC_PLUGIN_PATH environment variable
#  * http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/8835
#  * remote status changed: (?) - new
usertags 699832 + status-new

# remote status report for #704221 (http://bugs.debian.org/704221)
# Bug title: vlc: doesn't document cdda://
#  * http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/8834
#  * remote status changed: (?) - new
usertags 704221 + status-new

# remote status report for #708953 (http://bugs.debian.org/708953)
# Bug title: vlc: VLC open in single instance mode doesn't play files opened 
from nautilus Open with VLC
#  * http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/8839
#  * remote status changed: (?) - closed
#  * remote resolution changed: (?) - fixed
usertags 708953 + status-closed resolution-fixed

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Processing of openni_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.changes

2013-07-01 Thread Debian FTP Masters
openni_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.changes uploaded successfully to localhost
along with the files:
  openni_1.5.4.0-7.dsc
  openni_1.5.4.0.orig.tar.gz
  openni_1.5.4.0-7.debian.tar.gz
  libopenni0_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.deb
  libopenni-java_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.deb
  openni-utils_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.deb
  libopenni-dev_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.deb
  openni-doc_1.5.4.0-7_all.deb

Greetings,

Your Debian queue daemon (running on host franck.debian.org)

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openni_1.5.4.0-7_amd64.changes is NEW

2013-07-01 Thread Debian FTP Masters
binary:libopenni-java is NEW.
binary:openni-doc is NEW.
binary:openni-utils is NEW.
binary:libopenni-dev is NEW.
binary:libopenni0 is NEW.
source:openni is NEW.

Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of
the override file.  It is ok otherwise, so please be patient.  New
packages are usually added to the override file about once a week.

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