Bug#765969: [vlc] green line under some Mpeg-4 XVID videos

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Le 2014-10-20 00:28, Francesco Muzio a écrit :

Oops, I have forgotten the screenshot


The video is really low quality so it's hard to say but we can clearly 
see by zooming in that shades of grey are visible in the last lines, 
even though the colour informations is discarded, resulting in a green 
tint. I can't reproduce the problem with X11 or GLX, so I believe this 
is a bug in your display drivers.


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qtractor update

[Jaromír Mikeš]

I added myself as uploader of qtractor.
Can someone provide DM flag for me?

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qjackctl update

[Jaromír Mikeš]

Update of qjackctl.
I added myself as uploader.

Can somebody make a Team upload or set DM flag for me?

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Re: Disable build on certain archs

[James Cowgill]

On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 22:44 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> 2014-10-19 22:27 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill  > On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 21:05 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> > > I got patch which fixed build on  kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386, but build
> > > on hurd-i386 failed :(
> > >
> > >
> > https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=zam-plugins&arch=hurd-i386&ver=3.5~repack0-5&stamp=1413736712
> > >
> > > I need quick fix or quick advise how correctly disable hurd=i386 only.
> > 
> >
> > Just had a play on a hurd VM. Hurd doesn't define __GLIBC__ so you'll
> > need an extra "|| defined(__GNU__)" in your patch.
> 
> Aha ...something like this should works?
> 
> # elif defined(__linux__) || defined (__GLIBC__) || defined(__GNU__)

Yep that should work.

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Bug#765969: [vlc] green line under some Mpeg-4 XVID videos

[Francesco Muzio]

The green line is visible also is visible also when the height of the 
screen matches the height of the video. Hence the line is overlapped the 
bottom of the screen, but don't change its colour o brightness during 
the playing. (if I understand correctly your question)


The attached screenshot has been taken when VLC is playing the video 
linked in my previous message.
I have tried the default output module "VDPAU", the OpenGL (XCB) and the 
X11 (XCB). same result for all three.

I have also restored the options of VLC without sucessful.

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Re: Disable build on certain archs

[Jaromír Mikeš]

2014-10-19 22:27 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill :

> On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 21:05 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> > I got patch which fixed build on  kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386, but build
> > on hurd-i386 failed :(
> >
> >
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=zam-plugins&arch=hurd-i386&ver=3.5~repack0-5&stamp=1413736712
> >
> > I need quick fix or quick advise how correctly disable hurd=i386 only.
> 
>
> Just had a play on a hurd VM. Hurd doesn't define __GLIBC__ so you'll
> need an extra "|| defined(__GNU__)" in your patch.
>

Aha ...something like this should works?

# elif defined(__linux__) || defined (__GLIBC__) || defined(__GNU__)

thank you

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Bug#765969: [vlc] green line under some Mpeg-4 XVID videos

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Le dimanche 19 octobre 2014, 20:16:34 Francesco Muzio a écrit :
> Package: vlc
> Version: 2.2.0~pre4-1
> Severity: normal

> Some video shows an horizontal green line at the bottom of the video.
> The green line is seen especially if I play a fullscreen 16:9 video on a
> 16:10 (or 4:3, 5:4) screen.

Are the pixel rows at the bottom part obscuring the bottom of the picture or 
are they added extraneous? If obscuring, do they lack colour or do they lack 
both colour and brightness?

Which VLC video output plugin was used and does it affect others?

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Re: Disable build on certain archs

[James Cowgill]

On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 21:05 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> I got patch which fixed build on  kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386, but build
> on hurd-i386 failed :(
> 
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=zam-plugins&arch=hurd-i386&ver=3.5~repack0-5&stamp=1413736712
> 
> I need quick fix or quick advise how correctly disable hurd=i386 only. 

Just had a play on a hurd VM. Hurd doesn't define __GLIBC__ so you'll
need an extra "|| defined(__GNU__)" in your patch.

> architecture: [!=hurd-i386]
> Is solution above right?

You can't do "all arches except xxx" in the architecture field, so if
you were going to do this the best you can do is:
"Architecture: linux-any kfreebsd-any".

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Bug#742896: Blank screen on all videos with VDPAU and nVidia card (xbmc)

[Sergej Wildemann]

2014-10-19 14:22 GMT+02:00 Wojciech Kuranowski :
> It's strange. I have tried to play sample videos attached by Sergej
> Wildemann. And they sometimes work but not always. It's random. I have
> attached logs for both cases.

After testing for some days, i also noticed that they tend to work
randomly. Most files show a video after start/stopping them a few
times.

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Re: Disable build on certain archs

[Jaromír Mikeš]

2014-10-16 17:40 GMT+02:00 Jaromír Mikeš :

>
>
> 2014-10-16 17:04 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill :
>
>> On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 16:53 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
>> > 2014-10-15 23:37 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill :
>> > > On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 09:47 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
>> > > > I need disable build zam-plugins on kfreebsd-amd64 and also probably
>> > > > kfreebsd-i386.
>> > > > there is failed build and can't be probably fixed quickly
>> > > >
>> > > > What I need to do?
>> >
>> > > You need to:
>> > >   * Upload a version of the package so it doesn't build on those
>> > > architectures (I see you've already done that).
>> > >   * File a removal bug against ftp.debian.org. The title should
>> be
>> > > something like:
>> > >"RM: zam-plugins [kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386] -- ROM; > reason>"
>> > >
>> >
>> > Is "removal bug"  needed if this is rather temporary issue and there is
>> > assumption that issue will be fixed quite soon?
>>
>> If you're going to get it building on kfreebsd again before the freeze
>> then you don't need to remove it. However, zam-plugins won't migrate
>> into testing until you fix it or have the package removed from kfreebsd.
>>
>
> I just send "removal bug" I would be disappointed to not get this release
> to jessie
>

I got patch which fixed build on  kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386, but build
on hurd-i386 failed :(

https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=zam-plugins&arch=hurd-i386&ver=3.5~repack0-5&stamp=1413736712

I need quick fix or quick advise how correctly disable hurd=i386 only. 
architecture: [!=hurd-i386]
Is solution above right?

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Bug#742896: Blank screen on all videos with VDPAU and nVidia card (xbmc)

[Bálint Réczey]

Hi Wojciech,

2014-10-19 14:22 GMT+02:00 Wojciech Kuranowski :
> On 14 October 2014 00:02, Bálint Réczey  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2014-10-13 23:46 GMT+02:00 Wojciech Kuranowski :
>>> Yes, VDPAU acceleration fails with the latest package. But it's a bit
>>> better than before, because I have one example of working movie which
>>> was not working with previous libav based xbmc packages. All other
>>> tested movies fails with VDPAU. But everything works fine with ffmpeg
>>> based xbmc.
>>>
>>> This is my card:
>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce
>>> GTX 650] (rev a1)
>>>
>>> Driver:
>>> nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64340.46-1
>>>
>>> How can I help?
>> I suspect some codecs work but others don't. Please collect xbmc logs
>> while playing the working and not working files and attach them to the
>> bug.
>
> It's strange. I have tried to play sample videos attached by Sergej
> Wildemann. And they sometimes work but not always. It's random. I have
> attached logs for both cases.
Thank you for the logs they are very useful.

The symptom and the logs suggest that it it a threading problem (T is
the thread id):
bad:
...
14:09:30 T:139908127639296  NOTICE: CDVDVideoCodecFFmpeg::GetFormat -
Creating VDPAU(1280x720)
14:09:30 T:139908119246592  NOTICE: running thread: CDVDPlayerAudio::Process()
14:09:30 T:139908119246592   DEBUG: CDVDPlayerAudio -
CDVDMsg::GENERAL_RESYNC(5000.00, 1)
14:09:30 T:139908119246592  NOTICE: Creating audio stream (codec id:
86019, channels: 6, sample rate: 48000, no pass-through)
14:09:30 T:139908589209344INFO: CActiveAESink::OpenSink - initialize sink
14:09:30 T:139908589209344   DEBUG: CActiveAESink::OpenSink - trying
to open device ALSA:@
14:09:30 T:139908589209344   DEBUG: CAESinkALSA::GetChannelLayout -
Input Channel Count: 2 Output Channel Count: 2
14:09:30 T:139908589209344   DEBUG: CAESinkALSA::GetChannelLayout -
Requested Layout: FL,FR
14:09:30 T:139908589209344   DEBUG: CAESinkALSA::GetChannelLayout -
Got Layout: FL,FR
14:09:30 T:139908589209344INFO: CAESinkALSA::Initialize -
Attempting to open device "@"
14:09:30 T:139908119246592   DEBUG: CDVDPlayerAudio:: synctype set to
0: clock feedback
14:09:30 T:139908127639296  NOTICE: VDPAU::CreateContext - creating
decoder context
14:09:30 T:139908589209344INFO: CAESinkALSA::Initialize - Opened
device "sysdefault"
14:09:30 T:139908589209344INFO: CAESinkALSA::InitializeHW - Your
hardware does not support AE_FMT_FLOAT, trying other formats
...
14:09:30 T:139908127639296   DEBUG: CVDPAU::SetWidthHeight Setting
OutWidth: 870 OutHeight: 489
14:09:30 T:139908127639296  NOTICE:  (VDPAU) screenWidth:870
vidWidth:1280 surfaceWidth:1280
14:09:30 T:139908127639296  NOTICE:  (VDPAU) screenHeight:489
vidHeight:720 surfaceHeight:720
14:09:30 T:139907351705344  NOTICE: Thread Vdpau Output start, auto
delete: false
14:09:30 T:139907351705344  NOTICE: COutput::OnStartup: Output Thread created
14:09:30 T:139907351705344  NOTICE: VDPAU::COutput::CreateGlxContext -
created context
14:09:30 T:139907351705344  NOTICE: VDPAU::COutput: vdpau gl interop initialized
14:09:30 T:139907343312640  NOTICE: Thread Vdpau Mixer start, auto delete: false
14:09:30 T:139907343312640  NOTICE: CMixer::OnStartup: Output Thread created
14:09:30 T:139907343312640  NOTICE:  (VDPAU) Creating the video mixer
14:09:30 T:139907351705344  NOTICE: VDPAU::COutput::InitBufferPool -
Output Surface created
14:09:30 T:139908127639296  NOTICE: Previous line repeats 3 times.
14:09:30 T:139908127639296   DEBUG: CDVDPlayerVideo -
CDVDMsg::GENERAL_RESYNC(208000.00, 0)
14:09:30 T:139908127639296   DEBUG: CDVDPlayerVideo - video decoder
returned error
14:09:30 T:139909238515776   DEBUG: Previous line repeats 53 times.
14:09:30 T:139909238515776   DEBUG: LogindUPowerSyscall - Received
unknown signal NameAcquired
14:09:30 T:139908127639296   DEBUG: CDVDPlayerVideo - video decoder
returned error
14:09:31 T:139908127639296   DEBUG: Previous line repeats 163 times.
14:09:31 T:139908127639296 WARNING: CDVDMessageQueue(video)::Get -
asked for new data packet, with nothing available
...

good:
...
14:17:40 T:139776842725120INFO: CDVDPlayerVideo - Stillframe left,
switching to normal playback
14:17:40 T:139776842725120  NOTICE: CDVDVideoCodecFFmpeg::GetFormat -
Creating VDPAU(1280x720)
14:17:40 T:139776842725120  NOTICE: VDPAU::CreateContext - creating
decoder context
14:17:40 T:139777614022720  NOTICE: WebServer: Started the webserver
14:17:40 T:139777614022720  NOTICE: starting upnp server
14:17:40 T:139776867903232   DEBUG: CZeroconfAvahi::doPublishService
identifier: servers.webserver type: _http._tcp name:XBMC (home)
port:8123
14:17:40 T:139776867903232   DEBUG: CZeroconfAvahi::doPublishService:
client not running, queued for publishing
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(home) port:8123
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Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Alessio Treglia (2014-10-19 19:40:19)
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard  wrote:
>> I added flowblade, but that package has since been moved out ot the 
>> Debian Multimedia team due to lack of multiple maintainers.
>>
>> If someone in the team is interested in co-maintaining Flowblade then 
>> great!
>
> I'm interested in both so please add me to the Uploaders list [1].

Great!  I will do that, and move those back to our team git!

Perhaps you are then also interested in co-maintaining Shotcut with me? 
- it is written by the author of MLT: http://www.shotcutapp.com/


> [1] Although I bet you use CDBS to maintain them, don't you? But well,
> I can live with it [2]
> [2] I'm just joking! Please do add me :)

Pffft. :-)

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Bug#765969: [vlc] green line under some Mpeg-4 XVID videos

[Francesco Muzio]

Package: vlc
Version: 2.2.0~pre4-1
Severity: normal

Dear maintainers,

After the latest upgrade of VLC in testing branch I have expirienced a 
problem when I playing some avi file with an XVID content.


Some video shows an horizontal green line at the bottom of the video. 
The green line is seen especially if I play a fullscreen 16:9 video on a 
16:10 (or 4:3, 5:4) screen.


Not all, but most videos shows this problem. I have tried VLC on i386 
and amd64 machines ad the bug affect both architectures


I have found an already online video to reproduce the problem
http://thud.us/videos/misc/xvid-samples/flyby-xvid.avi


--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux 3.16.3

Debian Release: jessie/sid
500 testing cdn.debian.net

--- Package information. ---
Depends (Version) | Installed
==-+-===
fonts-freefont-ttf | 20120503-4
vlc-nox (= 2.1.5-1) | 2.2.0~pre4-1
libaa1 (>= 1.4p5) | 1.4p5-43
libavcodec55 (>= 6:10~beta1~) | 6:10.4-1
OR libavcodec-extra-55 (>= 6:10.2) |
libavutil53 (>= 6:10~beta1~) | 6:10.4-1
libc6 (>= 2.15) | 2.19-11
libcaca0 (>= 0.99.beta17-1) | 0.99.beta19-2
libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) | 2.5.2-2
libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.2) | 0.19.6-2
libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) | 1:4.9.1-16
libgl1-mesa-glx | 10.2.8-1
OR libgl1 |
libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) | 2:1.0.9-1
libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2
libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0) | 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2
libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.10) | 1.2.12-5+b3
libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.11) | 1.2.15-10
libsm6 | 2:1.2.2-1
libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) | 4.9.1-16
libtar0 | 1.2.20-4
libva-x11-1 (>> 1.3.0~) | 1.4.0-3
libva1 (>> 1.3.0~) | 1.4.0-3
libvdpau1 (>= 0.2) | 0.8-1
libvlccore7 (>= 2.1.0) | 2.1.5-1
libx11-6 | 2:1.6.2-3
libxcb-composite0 | 1.10-3
libxcb-keysyms1 (>= 0.3.9) | 0.4.0-1
libxcb-randr0 (>= 1.1) | 1.10-3
libxcb-render0 | 1.10-3
libxcb-shape0 | 1.10-3
libxcb-shm0 | 1.10-3
libxcb-xfixes0 | 1.10-3
libxcb-xv0 (>= 1.2) | 1.10-3
libxcb1 (>= 1.6) | 1.10-3
libxext6 | 2:1.3.3-1
libxinerama1 | 2:1.1.3-1
libxpm4 | 1:3.5.11-1
zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3) | 1:1.2.8.dfsg-2


Recommends (Version) | Installed
=-+-
vlc-plugin-notify (= 2.1.5-1) | 2.2.0~pre4-1
vlc-plugin-pulse (= 2.1.5-1) | 2.2.0~pre4-1
xdg-utils | 1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-7.1


Suggests (Version) | Installed
===-+-===
videolan-doc |

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Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]

[Alessio Treglia]

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard  wrote:
> I added flowblade, but that package has since been moved out ot the
> Debian Multimedia team due to lack of multiple maintainers.
>
> If someone in the team is interested in co-maintaining Flowblade then
> great!

I'm interested in both so please add me to the Uploaders list [1].

[1] Although I bet you use CDBS to maintain them, don't you? But well,
I can live with it [2]
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Bug#742896: Blank screen on all videos with VDPAU and nVidia card (xbmc)

[Wojciech Kuranowski]

On 14 October 2014 00:02, Bálint Réczey  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2014-10-13 23:46 GMT+02:00 Wojciech Kuranowski :
>> Yes, VDPAU acceleration fails with the latest package. But it's a bit
>> better than before, because I have one example of working movie which
>> was not working with previous libav based xbmc packages. All other
>> tested movies fails with VDPAU. But everything works fine with ffmpeg
>> based xbmc.
>>
>> This is my card:
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce
>> GTX 650] (rev a1)
>>
>> Driver:
>> nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64340.46-1
>>
>> How can I help?
> I suspect some codecs work but others don't. Please collect xbmc logs
> while playing the working and not working files and attach them to the
> bug.

It's strange. I have tried to play sample videos attached by Sergej
Wildemann. And they sometimes work but not always. It's random. I have
attached logs for both cases.


vdpau_blank_xbmc.log.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


vdpau_good_xbmc.log.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data
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Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]

[Matteo F. Vescovi]

Ciao!

On Oct 19, 2014 10:29 AM, "Alessio Treglia"  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Matteo F. Vescovi 
wrote:
> > probably it's quite safe to bump it to 2.72a.
>
> Please do fix it.

Done.

Cheers.

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Bug#760758: amb-plugins: spurious LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME

[Fons Adriaensen]

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:50:05AM +0200, Frank Heckenbach wrote:
 
> As I said, it's a bit confusing, since two rather different
> properties include the word "realtime", and confusion about what the
> plugin itself may do vs. what the user of the plugin (the host) may
> do (and the use of the passive voice in the comments doesn't help to
> clear the confusion ...)

I've never had any problem understanding the difference between
the two, thank you.
 
> LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME indicates that the plugin itself *has* a
> realtime dependency. That would be the case only for few plugins,
> not really audio processing plugins, more plugins for I/O.

We clearly disagree on the interpretation of PROPERY_REALTIME.

For all of my plugins the following is true: if their output
is cached, or subject to significant latency, they will not
produce the expected result. Hence this must not be done, 
and setting the property is required to restrict the host.

If a user expects to hear a note played on a MIDI keyboard
without delay, then this requires the entire processing 
chain to do the right thing, not just the part that is 
talking directly to the MIDI device. All plugins in such
a chain have the same real-time dependency. This is most
obvious  for plugins that implement a synthesiser module,
e.g. a VCF, but in fact valid for almost all. Exception
would be plugin that implements e.g. a VU-meter or spectrum
analyser - it doesn't matter much if the result is displayed
with some delay (as long as that remains reasonable).


Another interpretation, closer to yours, would be that if
the plugin has REALTIME_PROPERTY set it can not be used in
any form of batch (non-real-time) processing. But that is
not what the text in ladspa.h says.


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Bug#760758: amb-plugins: spurious LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME

[Frank Heckenbach]

Fons Adriaensen wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:00:15AM +0200, Frank Heckenbach wrote:
>  
> > > > The same seems to apply to vco-plugins, mcp-plugins and rev-plugins.
> > > > Should I submit separate bug reports for each package?
> 
> See ladspa.h:
> 
> /* Property LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME indicates that the plugin has a
>real-time dependency (e.g. listens to a MIDI device) and so its
>output must not be cached or subject to significant latency. */
> #define LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME0x1
> 
> So by removing this property you indicate that the plugin's output
> may be cached or subject to significant latency. There will be
> very few audio processing plugins for which this is true. The only
> ones I could imagine would be those that only produce metering or
> statistics and no audio output at all.
>
> For all of the plugins I ever wrote the user would expect a prompt
> response to control inputs and these may be bound to MIDI controllers
> by the host as well. There is never any reason to add latency or
> cache the output (whatever that would mean for an audio stream).

As I said, it's a bit confusing, since two rather different
properties include the word "realtime", and confusion about what the
plugin itself may do vs. what the user of the plugin (the host) may
do (and the use of the passive voice in the comments doesn't help to
clear the confusion ...)

LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME indicates that the plugin itself *has* a
realtime dependency. That would be the case only for few plugins,
not really audio processing plugins, more plugins for I/O. The given
example is a MIDI device, and the restriction here is that when the
player presses say a key on a MIDI keyboard, they expect to hear the
corresponding sound promptly. So the *host* may not significantly
delay the processing, nor cache the output and play it back at a
later time. Whereas for a normal processing plugin, it may do the
processing any time it likes (if no other module in the chain has a
realtime dependency) and it may even cache the result, e.g. to
precompute a series of effects and play back the result at various
times. So this property adds restrictions to the host, and removing
it gives the host more freedom.

OTOH, LADSPA_PROPERTY_HARD_RT_CAPABLE (which you've set correctly)
indicates (among other things) that the plugin will not block and
"will take a [linear] amount of time to execute a run() or
run_adding() call". That means the host can use them in realtime
environments (e.g. JACK callbacks) that must not block and must
finish within the cycle. That's the case for most processing plugins
(unless they need a very variable processing time which cannot be
bound linearly). It would not be the case for a plugin that e.g.
needs to read data from files during run() (because reading might
block) or for I/O plugins unless they use non-blocking I/O or
similar (which they should generally do). So adding the property
gives more guarantees (and therefore more freedom) to the host.

So the upshot is that almost all pure processing plugins should set
LADSPA_PROPERTY_HARD_RT_CAPABLE, but not LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME,
and indeed that's what I see is done in most plugin libraries.

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Bug#760758: amb-plugins: spurious LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME

[Fons Adriaensen]

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:00:15AM +0200, Frank Heckenbach wrote:
 
> > > The same seems to apply to vco-plugins, mcp-plugins and rev-plugins.
> > > Should I submit separate bug reports for each package?

See ladspa.h:

/* Property LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME indicates that the plugin has a
   real-time dependency (e.g. listens to a MIDI device) and so its
   output must not be cached or subject to significant latency. */
#define LADSPA_PROPERTY_REALTIME0x1

So by removing this property you indicate that the plugin's output
may be cached or subject to significant latency. There will be
very few audio processing plugins for which this is true. The only
ones I could imagine would be those that only produce metering or
statistics and no audio output at all.

For all of the plugins I ever wrote the user would expect a prompt
response to control inputs and these may be bound to MIDI controllers
by the host as well. There is never any reason to add latency or
cache the output (whatever that would mean for an audio stream).


Ciao,

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Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]

[Alessio Treglia]

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Matteo F. Vescovi  wrote:
> probably it's quite safe to bump it to 2.72a.

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