Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
je... sorry for the delay, Real Life, y'know... I was about to upload, but I see Reinhard already uploaded it. awesome =) cheers, -- Niv Sardi %% Free Software hacker hacktivist ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Dear Rogério, Am 27.08.2012 14:58, schrieb Fabian Greffrath: Am 27.08.2012 14:43, schrieb Niv Sardi: I think it's good enough, I'd say upload to experimental, and then we see how we fix it. Generally I agree, but Rogerio (CC'ed) also has a word to say about this. Rogerio? hiding is futile, I can see that you are alive from your recent blog posts. ;) Niv is interested in uploading the current state of handbrake to Debian experimental. Do you agree with this plan or are there any severe show stoppers left in your opinion? - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Hi there.
On Sep 05 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Dear Rogério,
Am 27.08.2012 14:58, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:
Am 27.08.2012 14:43, schrieb Niv Sardi:
I think it's good enough, I'd say upload to experimental, and then we
see how we fix it.
Generally I agree, but Rogerio (CC'ed) also has a word to say about
this. Rogerio?
hiding is futile, I can see that you are alive from your recent blog
posts. ;)
Thanks for the lovely ping. :)
Niv is interested in uploading the current state of handbrake to
Debian experimental. Do you agree with this plan or are there any
severe show stoppers left in your opinion?
Please, go ahead. There are some other points that we should work on, but no
showstopper (well, my private copy with FAAC and with mp4v2 *does* have
issues and is segfaulting in some ways, but I don't think that applies to
the the stripped down version in Debian).
Let's get it past the NEW queue so that we can upload some other incremental
things in further uploads, until we have something in shape.
Niv, it would be nice if you could add the DMUA flag set to yes, so that I
can upload newer versions (I am a DM).
Fabian, would you mind writing/adapting a script to strip down windows
binaries etc. from the upstream package? I could do that, but I'm quite busy
blogging :) right now. :) (not, not really). :)
Thanks,
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As said, i'm happy to sponsor an upload. But wouldn't want to overstep DDs
in pkg-multimedia.
Fabian was seeming to say there are a lot there :)
Cheers,
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On 5 Sep 2012 08:30, Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote:
Hi there.
On Sep 05 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Dear Rogério,
Am 27.08.2012 14:58, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:
Am 27.08.2012 14:43, schrieb Niv Sardi:
I think it's good enough, I'd say upload to experimental, and then we
see how we fix it.
Generally I agree, but Rogerio (CC'ed) also has a word to say about
this. Rogerio?
hiding is futile, I can see that you are alive from your recent blog
posts. ;)
Thanks for the lovely ping. :)
Niv is interested in uploading the current state of handbrake to
Debian experimental. Do you agree with this plan or are there any
severe show stoppers left in your opinion?
Please, go ahead. There are some other points that we should work on, but
no
showstopper (well, my private copy with FAAC and with mp4v2 *does* have
issues and is segfaulting in some ways, but I don't think that applies to
the the stripped down version in Debian).
Let's get it past the NEW queue so that we can upload some other
incremental
things in further uploads, until we have something in shape.
Niv, it would be nice if you could add the DMUA flag set to yes, so that I
can upload newer versions (I am a DM).
Fabian, would you mind writing/adapting a script to strip down windows
binaries etc. from the upstream package? I could do that, but I'm quite
busy
blogging :) right now. :) (not, not really). :)
Thanks,
--
Rogério Brito : rbrito@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 4096R/BCFC
http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog : Projects : https://github.com/rbrito/
DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rbrito%40ime.usp.br
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Hi, Niv.
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Niv Sardi xa...@debian.org wrote:
As said, i'm happy to sponsor an upload. But wouldn't want to overstep DDs
in pkg-multimedia.
I don't think that anybody in pkg-multimedia would mind you uploading
to the the NEW queue barrier done, especially now that the ftpmasters
may be more strict with approvals of new packages (is this impression
of mine really true?).
Fabian was seeming to say there are a lot there :)
Not really sure about the lot, but I agree with everything that Fabian
has said. Well, if I don't agree, I will point those things out. :)
Thanks,
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Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Am 05.09.2012 13:52, schrieb Rogério Brito: I don't think that anybody in pkg-multimedia would mind you uploading to the the NEW queue barrier done, especially now that the ftpmasters Most definitely not, we are a very friendly team and welcome every helping hand. I could not imagine Reinhard or Andres (the to others listed as Uploaders) would mind if you sponsored an Upload. Although joining the team and adding yourself to Uploaders would be appreciated, of course. may be more strict with approvals of new packages (is this impression of mine really true?). I guess so. We are in a freeze and I believe they have more important things to do. Not really sure about the lot, but I agree with everything that Fabian has said. Well, if I don't agree, I will point those things out. :) In one of his previous mails Niv told me that handbrake would currently FTBFS. I am not sure why this happens, but it may be due to Debian's unpatched a52dec library and handbrake patch 0009 being disabled. Apart from that, IMHO all that's needed is a rebuild of the source tarball. Unfortunately, I don't have the spare time right now to do this myself and I am not sure about integration with uscan(1). - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Am 05.09.2012 14:19, schrieb Fabian Greffrath: In one of his previous mails Niv told me that handbrake would currently FTBFS. I am not sure why this happens, but it may be due to Debian's unpatched a52dec library and handbrake patch 0009 being disabled. I couldn't confirm this in my local i386 build, but we need to get rid of ccache and get a decent changelog entry first. ;) ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
I have a quite busy couple of days, If you guys can put it in shape by Friday, I'll upload. If not, I guess I'll have to work :) Cheers -- mobile: http://three.sentenc.es On 5 Sep 2012 09:24, Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com wrote: Am 05.09.2012 14:19, schrieb Fabian Greffrath: In one of his previous mails Niv told me that handbrake would currently FTBFS. I am not sure why this happens, but it may be due to Debian's unpatched a52dec library and handbrake patch 0009 being disabled. I couldn't confirm this in my local i386 build, but we need to get rid of ccache and get a decent changelog entry first. ;) ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Dear Niv, thanks for your interest in handbrake and Debian. Am 20.08.2012 08:43, schrieb Niv Sardi: what is missing to push handbreak into Debian ? theoretically, i.e. from a strictly technical point of view, handbrake could get uploaded to Debian (preferably experimental) in its current form (i.e. with minor modifications). The drawbacks are (1) that it is missing AAC audio encoding because it uses FAAC for that, which is considered non-free and (2) that it is missing MP4 muxing, because it uses libmp4v2 for that which is licensed uder the MPL, while the rest of handbrake and its components is licensed under the GPL and both licenses are incompatible. So for now it only supports lame or vorbis for audio encoding and MKV muxing, which would be enough to provide a working DVD ripper, but renders the (Apple device oriented) presets system pretty useless. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Hi Fabian, On Mon, Aug 27 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 20.08.2012 08:43, schrieb Niv Sardi: what is missing to push handbreak into Debian ? theoretically, i.e. from a strictly technical point of view, handbrake could get uploaded to Debian (preferably experimental) in its current form (i.e. with minor modifications). Awesome, do you need sponsoring ? The drawbacks are (1) that it is missing AAC audio encoding because it uses FAAC for that, which is considered non-free. I haven't built it (it actually failed and it's 6am here), but looking through the source I could find reference to a FFAAC codec that seemed to use libav's (ffmpeg) implementation. That doesn't work ? and (2) that it is missing MP4 muxing, because it uses libmp4v2 for that which is licensed uder the MPL, while the rest of handbrake and its components is licensed under the GPL and both licenses are incompatible. That is annoying, and looking at muxmp4.c, not an easy thing to fix. is handbreak the only consumer of that library ? I remember http://code.google.com/p/ffmbc/ is re-licencing ffmpeg from lgpl to gpl on the fly. It's not ultra ethical, but I don't know if it's illegal to do this with libmp4, maybe we can talk this upstream to get it dual-licenced lgpl ? So for now it only supports lame or vorbis for audio encoding and MKV muxing, which would be enough to provide a working DVD ripper, but renders the (Apple device oriented) presets system pretty useless. I think it's good enough, I'd say upload to experimental, and then we see how we fix it. -- Niv Sardi ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#456165: Show stopers for handbreak in debian ?
Hi Niv, Am 27.08.2012 14:43, schrieb Niv Sardi: Awesome, do you need sponsoring ? No, thank you. Handbrake will be maintained in the pkg-multimedia team and we already have plenty of DDs to sponsor uploads. Maybe you are also interested to join? I haven't built it (it actually failed and it's 6am here), but looking through the source I could find reference to a FFAAC codec that seemed to use libav's (ffmpeg) implementation. That doesn't work ? It does and you can explicitely select this codec from a dropdown menu if you like, but it's infamous for its suboptimal sound quality. We still have lame for MP3 encoded sound which would also fit into an MP4 container. That is annoying, and looking at muxmp4.c, not an easy thing to fix. is handbreak the only consumer of that library ? There was gtkpod, but it was fixed meanwhile to use another MP4 library for the exact same reason. Spontanously, I don't know of any other consumer... I remember http://code.google.com/p/ffmbc/ is re-licencing ffmpeg from lgpl to gpl on the fly. It's not ultra ethical, but I don't know if it's illegal to do this with libmp4, maybe we can talk this upstream to get it dual-licenced lgpl ? Our libav package (the same applies to our former ffmpeg package) is also already licensed under the GPL instead of LGPL, because it links against some GPL'ed libraries. We even had to bump the license version to 3, because we use libraries that are licensed under the MPL (mostly code from Android - including another AAC encoder, BTW). I doubt that it's even possible for libmp4v2 upstream to relicense the code, because its originally copyrighted by the mpeg4ip project which has ceased in the meantime. I think it's good enough, I'd say upload to experimental, and then we see how we fix it. Generally I agree, but Rogerio (CC'ed) also has a word to say about this. Rogerio? - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am 27.08.2012 14:58, schrieb Fabian Greffrath: against some GPL'ed libraries. We even had to bump the license version to 3, because we use libraries that are licensed under the MPL (mostly code from Android - including another AAC encoder, BTW). s/MPL/Apache/ ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
