Bug#681136: Should libavcodec-extra-53 Provides: libavcodec53? [Was: Re: Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde]
Am 12.07.2012 11:15, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: That would make 'libavcodec53' a virtual package, which AFAIUI would break versioned dependencies as dpkg does not support versioned provides. This doesn't sound like a problem as long as both binary packages are built from the same sources, e.g. the gnuplot package family does the same (gnuplot-qt Provides: gnuplot-x11 Provides: gnuplot-nox). - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#681136: Should libavcodec-extra-53 Provides: libavcodec53? [Was: Re: Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde]
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com wrote: Am 12.07.2012 11:15, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: That would make 'libavcodec53' a virtual package, which AFAIUI would break versioned dependencies as dpkg does not support versioned provides. This doesn't sound like a problem as long as both binary packages are built from the same sources, e.g. the gnuplot package family does the same (gnuplot-qt Provides: gnuplot-x11 Provides: gnuplot-nox). Well, it will be a problem for all application packages that link against libavcodec, as it would effectively break the shlibs system. -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#681136: Should libavcodec-extra-53 Provides: libavcodec53? [Was: Re: Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde]
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com wrote: The problem appears to have been that I had not succeeded in removing all Marillat's packages, despite trying to make sure I had before reporting I suspected this. :) After reinstalling all the vlc (and xine) related packages I was able to install libavcodec-extra-53. At least. I still think it would have been easier if libavcodec-extra-53 had either Provides: libavcodec53 or, even better, really was just extras without I don't see any reason against this approach but leave it up for discussion with the other team members (then this big should get closed). That would make 'libavcodec53' a virtual package, which AFAIUI would break versioned dependencies as dpkg does not support versioned provides. replacing libavcodec53 at all. However, I am sure you have good reasons for this packaging. Unfortunately, it is not possible to package the extra parts alone, so both libraries need to replace each other. It would require invasive modifications to libavcodec to load all libraries that are only included in the -extra- variations at run-time via dlopen(). It seems to me that this approach has a number of corner cases to figure out (most importantly: at what time can libavcodec decide if a codec is available or not - moreover dlopen() is not available on all platforms that libav supports), and is therefore not really a favored approach by upstream. -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde
Am 10.07.2012 22:47, schrieb Graham Cobb: I speculate that some kde package has a dependency on libavcodec53. Should libavcodec-extra-53 provide libavcodec53? Packages in Debian should always have alternative dependdencied on both, i.e. libavcodec53| libavcodec-extra-53. Do you have packages from other repositories installed? - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde
On Wednesday 11 July 2012 10:20:37 Fabian Greffrath wrote: Packages in Debian should always have alternative dependdencied on both, i.e. libavcodec53| libavcodec-extra-53. Do you have packages from other repositories installed? The problem appears to have been that I had not succeeded in removing all Marillat's packages, despite trying to make sure I had before reporting the bug. In particular, I still had vlc packages installed which were preventing phonon-backend-vlc from upgrading. After reinstalling all the vlc (and xine) related packages I was able to install libavcodec-extra-53. I still think it would have been easier if libavcodec-extra-53 had either Provides: libavcodec53 or, even better, really was just extras without replacing libavcodec53 at all. However, I am sure you have good reasons for this packaging. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#681136: Should libavcodec-extra-53 Provides: libavcodec53? [Was: Re: Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde]
The problem appears to have been that I had not succeeded in removing all Marillat's packages, despite trying to make sure I had before reporting I suspected this. :) After reinstalling all the vlc (and xine) related packages I was able to install libavcodec-extra-53. At least. I still think it would have been easier if libavcodec-extra-53 had either Provides: libavcodec53 or, even better, really was just extras without I don't see any reason against this approach but leave it up for discussion with the other team members (then this big should get closed). replacing libavcodec53 at all. However, I am sure you have good reasons for this packaging. Unfortunately, it is not possible to package the extra parts alone, so both libraries need to replace each other. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde
Package: libavcodec-extra-53 Version: 6:0.8.3-4 Severity: important I attempted to follow the instructions on http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs to install libavcodec-extra-53, however I get the following error from apt-get: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-workspace-dbg : Depends: kde-runtime-dbg but it is not going to be installed libsmokekparts3 : Depends: libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.8.4-1) but it is not going to be installed plasma-widgets-workspace : Depends: plasma-dataengines-workspace (= 4:4.8.4-3) but it is not going to be installed polkit-kde-1 : Depends: kdebase-runtime but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. If I try: apt-get install libavcodec-extra-53 libavcodec53- apt-get tries to remove the whole of kde. I speculate that some kde package has a dependency on libavcodec53. Should libavcodec-extra-53 provide libavcodec53? -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_IE@euro, LC_CTYPE=en_IE@euro (charmap=ISO-8859-15) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_IE@euro) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
