Bug#768388: [Cs-dev] Bug#768388: csound, cs: error when trying to install together
Hi, On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Steven Yi steve...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how many users use cs or extract. I guess if we change names, there's a possibility we might break user's scripts or tools if they depend on those names. On the other hand, if you're doing renaming for extract and no one has really complained, I suppose changing cs won't be a big issue either. One thing though, either way if you rename the generated cs binary or do so in the debian package, I think we should add a note to the manual about the alternate names. I would prefer to not deviate from upstream as much as possible. So if upstream finds an alternative name, that would be the preferred solution for me. If upstream doesn't want to rename (which is of course understandable), I will probably rename to csound_cs (for consistency with csound_extract). The extract program should be documented as named csound_extract in debian and derivatives. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: [Cs-dev] Bug#768388: csound, cs: error when trying to install together
Hi John, Shall we rename then to csound_cs? steven On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 11:09:26 AM jpff j...@codemist.co.uk wrote: I would prefer a simpe renaming, despite the pain of completions in the shell. I do not think we guarantee scripts, just API and csd/orc/sco files. ==John On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Steven Yi steve...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how many users use cs or extract. I guess if we change names, there's a possibility we might break user's scripts or tools if they depend on those names. On the other hand, if you're doing renaming for extract and no one has really complained, I suppose changing cs won't be a big issue either. One thing though, either way if you rename the generated cs binary or do so in the debian package, I think we should add a note to the manual about the alternate names. I would prefer to not deviate from upstream as much as possible. So if upstream finds an alternative name, that would be the preferred solution for me. If upstream doesn't want to rename (which is of course understandable), I will probably rename to csound_cs (for consistency with csound_extract). The extract program should be documented as named csound_extract in debian and derivatives. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751; iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Csound-devel mailing list csound-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751; iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Csound-devel mailing list csound-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: [Cs-dev] Bug#768388: csound, cs: error when trying to install together
I would prefer a simpe renaming, despite the pain of completions in the shell. I do not think we guarantee scripts, just API and csd/orc/sco files. ==John On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Steven Yi steve...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how many users use cs or extract. I guess if we change names, there's a possibility we might break user's scripts or tools if they depend on those names. On the other hand, if you're doing renaming for extract and no one has really complained, I suppose changing cs won't be a big issue either. One thing though, either way if you rename the generated cs binary or do so in the debian package, I think we should add a note to the manual about the alternate names. I would prefer to not deviate from upstream as much as possible. So if upstream finds an alternative name, that would be the preferred solution for me. If upstream doesn't want to rename (which is of course understandable), I will probably rename to csound_cs (for consistency with csound_extract). The extract program should be documented as named csound_extract in debian and derivatives. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Csound-devel mailing list csound-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: [Cs-dev] Bug#768388: csound, cs: error when trying to install together
On 24 Nov 2014 13:39, jpff j...@codemist.co.uk wrote: I would prefer a simpe renaming, despite the pain of completions in the shell. I do not think we guarantee scripts, just API and csd/orc/sco files. ==John If the renaming is done upstream, we probably can pick a better name than csound_cs :). The purpose of the util is to run csound, so possibly csrun is a better name? Similarly, I could rename csound_extract to csextract. Saludos, ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: [Cs-dev] Bug#768388: csound, cs: error when trying to install together
Hi Felipe, I don't know how many users use cs or extract. I guess if we change names, there's a possibility we might break user's scripts or tools if they depend on those names. On the other hand, if you're doing renaming for extract and no one has really complained, I suppose changing cs won't be a big issue either. One thing though, either way if you rename the generated cs binary or do so in the debian package, I think we should add a note to the manual about the alternate names. Thanks! steven On Fri Nov 07 2014 at 2:48:42 PM Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Andreas Beckmann a...@debian.org wrote: Package: csound,cs Version: 1:6.03.2~dfsg-1 Severity: serious User: trei...@debian.org Usertags: edos-file-overwrite Architecture: amd64 Distribution: sid Hi, automatic installation tests of packages that share a file and at the same time do not conflict by their package dependency relationships has detected the following problem: Selecting previously unselected package cs. Preparing to unpack .../archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb ... Unpacking cs (0.5.7-1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/cs', which is also in package csound 1:6.03.2~dfsg-1 Processing triggers for mime-support (3.57) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb It looks like there is another utility named cs[1]. Would it make sense to rename csound utilities to have less generic names? We already rename in debian the extract tool, as it conflicts with another one named the same. [1] https://github.com/exoscale/cs -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -- ___ Csound-devel mailing list csound-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: csound,cs: error when trying to install together
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Andreas Beckmann a...@debian.org wrote: Package: csound,cs Version: 1:6.03.2~dfsg-1 Severity: serious User: trei...@debian.org Usertags: edos-file-overwrite Architecture: amd64 Distribution: sid Hi, automatic installation tests of packages that share a file and at the same time do not conflict by their package dependency relationships has detected the following problem: Selecting previously unselected package cs. Preparing to unpack .../archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb ... Unpacking cs (0.5.7-1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/cs', which is also in package csound 1:6.03.2~dfsg-1 Processing triggers for mime-support (3.57) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb Thanks for your report. I note that since cs is not available in jessie, this bug should be marked as not affecting jessie... not sure how this is done. Vincent, is your upstream amenable to changing the name? The csound cs utility has been named so since at least 2005, so it would probably break finger memory for users if I change it. I will ask upstream anyway. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: csound,cs: error when trying to install together
❦ 7 novembre 2014 10:17 -0300, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org : Vincent, is your upstream amenable to changing the name? The csound cs utility has been named so since at least 2005, so it would probably break finger memory for users if I change it. I will ask upstream anyway. I'll ask on my side as well. -- /* After several hours of tedious analysis, the following hash * function won. Do not mess with it... -DaveM */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: csound,cs: error when trying to install together
Control: tag -1 sid On 2014-11-07 14:17, Felipe Sateler wrote: I note that since cs is not available in jessie, this bug should be marked as not affecting jessie... not sure how this is done. Tagging as sid should suffice unless you need to get an update for csound into jessie that has to go via sid. But by that time maybe a decision for the proper renaming has already been made. Andreas ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: csound,cs: error when trying to install together
There is also a potential conflict with scound-manpages Selecting previously unselected package cs. Unpacking cs (from .../archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/cs.1.gz', which is also in package csound-manpages 1:5.13~dfsg-1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#768388: csound,cs: error when trying to install together
Package: csound,cs Version: 1:6.03.2~dfsg-1 Severity: serious User: trei...@debian.org Usertags: edos-file-overwrite Architecture: amd64 Distribution: sid Hi, automatic installation tests of packages that share a file and at the same time do not conflict by their package dependency relationships has detected the following problem: Selecting previously unselected package cs. Preparing to unpack .../archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb ... Unpacking cs (0.5.7-1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/cs', which is also in package csound 1:6.03.2~dfsg-1 Processing triggers for mime-support (3.57) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/cs_0.5.7-1_all.deb This is a serious bug as it makes installation fail, and violates sections 7.6.1 and 10.1 of the policy. An optimal solution would consist in only one of the packages installing that file, and renaming or removing the file in the other package. Depending on the circumstances you might also consider Replace relations or file diversions. If the conflicting situation cannot be resolved then, as a last resort, the two packages have to declare a mutual Conflict. Please take into account that Replaces, Conflicts and diversions should only be used when packages provide different implementations for the same functionality. Here is a list of files that are known to be shared by both packages (according to the Contents file for sid/amd64, which may be slightly out of sync): usr/bin/cs This bug is assigned to both packages. If you, the maintainers of the two packages in question, have agreed on which of the packages will resolve the problem please reassign the bug to that package. You may also register in the BTS that the other package is affected by the bug. cheers, Andreas PS: for more information about the detection of file overwrite errors of this kind see http://edos.debian.net/file-overwrites/. csound=1%6.03.2~dfsg-1_cs=0.5.7-1.log.gz Description: application/gzip ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
